Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
LOL Rob but no

Marty and I go back a long way and we have gone around the block on issues but he is worth engaging. Currently he just wants us to focus on tariffs and sees the rest as noise

I won't let him and I'm trying to hold him to account for his derisive labeling strategy. He is trying to avoid that conversation

I'm afraid that is wrong John.
I'm not trying to avoid the conversation. I'm trying to avoid a thousand rabbit holes and stay on point.
If Trump installs this and maintains it for a period of even weeks...it is going to become very complex and it is going to be hard to distinguish fact from noise, and Propaganda will be coming from all directions.

All media is now niche and makes money by delivering red meat to some essentially cultish group that has a desperate psychological need to believe a particular narrative.

Therefore a thinking person's Question #1 examines the core issue(s) and then builds a foundational framework on that for an understanding as the details mount.
Once established, then as the insanity starts rolling in and every barker has a narrative to sell, then we will have some sort of framework to stack details on.
At that point, we can talk about fish hatcheries and chicken farms and Aunt Millie's apple pie export business. Until now, their place and effect in a framework that doesn't exist yet is supposition.

My prediction is that it is going to be a muddy mess.
Could it push an economy that has been festering problems for 2+ years over a cliff? Real possibility.

But it starts with a very straightforward and honest question that you continue to evade.
How can you fix a problem that you wont even squarely face John? wink

Marty