Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
for noticing that you have no issue with Trump lying more than anyone we know as long as he is doing what you want him to do

John,

That is a lie. I wish that Trump did not ever lie. I wish that Joe Biden's handlers had not lied about his competence.
I wish that no one lied. But they do, and I had two choices on the ballot and I had issues that were important to me.


Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
And we see sexual assignment and identification a little differently...we would argue in a more enlightened way.

So yes, I'm with Steve here.

The vast majority of people view that POV as not enlightened.

As for me, I see 30 trillion cells and 4 million or so years of evolution as facts.
If someone believes their self to be the other gender, it is a fact that they believe that, but it is arguable that it is a fact that is true.

Everyone deserves dignity, but the BUD LITE commercial proved that there are a lot of people out there who thought that their beliefs and dignity were being disregarded. This Trans stuff, (as well as abortion) is not my issue. But as I said, it is one of many that you and Rob and Steve dont even consider in your hatred for Trump's existence.

Marty