I'm aware of the shah, and the Balfour Declaration and several antecedents.
I am well aware of the bent that some people have to make the US the bogeyman behind ever screwed up thing that happens in the world.
I have a college buddy who has a radio show dedicated to that premise. We talk.

The US is a superpower. As such, it's geopolitical foes are Russia and China.
They all do bad things. As did the Ottoman Turks. As did the Kaiser. As did the British. The world is a dangerous place and always has been.

The middle east, shah or whoever is a much more oppressive place than Texas and always has been. It remains so.

But still, that is not the point.
As imperfect as the US is, it's a lot better than most countries. The US armed forces and the Atlantic Ocean provide 43 million Canadians safety, that allow you all to keep your soap boxes and chimerical liberal viewpoints in good working order. wink SideNote: Canada's population is slightly larger than California's.

But, a bunch of us in the US are tired of being told who is the next guy to hate, and where is the next faraway place for Americans to die.
5 years ago, if someone said, name 50 countries where Americans need to die saving "democracy," Ukraine would not have made the list.
They cant even get in the EU.

If you and Rob feel so strongly about getting the Russians out of Ukraine, grab a gun and go. I suspect that they will get you out to the front.
If not, then join me, watch, and see if Trump can get the bombs to stop.

If he is not able to satisfy Zelensky, then they can fight on and you all will still have the opportunity to fight along side of them.
If the US gets in and pins the Russians down over a battle for Ukraine, it is possible that the nukes could come out and the Chinese could get involved. (Though I doubt that the Chinese would die for the Russians.)

My vote FWIW will be against US involvement.


Marty

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