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Trump is fulfilling his promises made to tighten the borders and a host of other things and his actions are definitely resonating among his supporters
I understand that but he is doing a lot in a hurry with his use of explicitly stated and assumed expanded executive power.
Congress is left out of things, the Senate is doing and saying what?
Chief Justice Roberts rebukes him and Trump says he did not mention me by name, so I can continue to rebuke and ridicule and lie about a Federal judge like I did before
But he deported 230 criminal terrorists plus if reports are true 1 formner soccer player from Venezuala who had sought asylum and happened to have a soccer\Real Madrid tattoo that qualified him for the ride and imprisonment.
It was this "due process" Justice Boisvart was looking for I think and simply someone Holman calls "collateral damage"
To Europe
The conflicts beteen between Germany and Russia is a history of 751 years of treaties between them that apportioned lands between them. The Teutonic Knights ...Germans, expanded into the eastern baltic areas and were famously defeated by Alexander Nevsky in 1274. In between lay what is now Poland and Eastern Europe and the The Baltic Nations the Ukraine, which for much of the time was ruled by powerful families who owned their lands as sovereigns.
Everything changed after WWi then again in WWII and Stalingrad was definitely a turning point that defeated and depleted German forces to the point that you could say it was over then and there and the rest of that war was German retreat with more losses. With American help, Russia forced Germany back to Berlin, while the combined forces of other Allied Powers came at them from the south ...and the west.
Never again through The Marshall Plan and Nato, the US and its European allies ....vs The then Soviet Union, which included much of what is now the area between Russia and Germany
There is a lot of history and living together in Eurasia and south into the Meditteranean and Asia Minor.
There is understaning of the strategic importance of its rivers, seas...in this case The Black Sea and the Baltic Sea, its ports, geographical resources and strategic geographies.
Peace in the Ukraine is a deserved end for its people who have fought and died for the ideals of freedom for the Ukraine from outside aggression by Russia which began with the annexation of The Crimea and escalated with Russia's move into the area roughly in a line between Kharkiv and Kerson that allow control over the lower part of the Dnipro River eastward over all of Ukraine's industrial heartlands.
The Crimea is a triangle penisula that also encloses The Sea orf Asov which has its own history back to ancient Greece, where for 2000 years a Greek city Chersoneses, existed.
For many hundreds of years it was the held by Ghengis Khan's descendents through The Golden Horde and the Crimean Khanate until forces under Catherine the Great took if for Russia in 1794 After WWII it was administratively transferred to the Ukraine which now has internationally recognized sovereignty over it since the disintegration of the Soviet Union.
The area Russia is coming after now was historically part of The Ukraine, and was actually why Crimea was transferred I suspect if you look at the geography.
More importantly, this area has important river mouths and ports on both the Sea of Asov and on the other side of the Crimea runs the Dnipro
All leading into The Black Sea. No accident the Donbas and surrounding areas are as they are. The Steelworks in Mariupol will be remembered and stories will be told of the valour of its defenders Where it will end up is important to an economically endowed Ukraine, and losing rivers and ports and strategic locations such as powerplants is not replacing strategic mineral deposits in value and potential
How will it end?
Bartering interests on many levels that we can only speculate about but it in the end will be filtered through Putin and his advisors, Zelensky and his Advisors, and Trump through his advisors as final arbiters.
A United Europe in its individual countries, including Germany, France and its Brexit neighbour UK and the rest of the world will also have its say and sway.
I expect that includes China. Their Belt and Roads initiative and US takeback of influence over the Panama Canal by taking over the ports on both sides has definitely impacted their influence over their trade routes. I expect there is diplomatic communication and back channel communication going on.
The end result will be the end of a grueling war that will have a Treaty of Insert Name Here that will likely see the Crimea and more Sea of Asov ports gone but maybe not the Dnipro
That would put Russia in a position of great economic power with important links east with China and west to Europe. It does not need Europe's geography just important rivers into the Black Sea.
That is what Putin is going for.
Historically, the past 751 years, it has all been about where Russia's border with the Ukraine begins.
And it will once again end up where the strongest interests and capablest minds take it
I do not know how it will end up, but I can see the bones the big dogs are fighting over
If writing ever becomes work I think I'm going to have to stop
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