Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
First off John Roberts is not any judge but the Head Judge of SCOTUS and therefore the USA.

If you poopoo his rebuke or see it just another day in the office in getting illegals out, then your end justifies the means argument simply descends us into the age when strong men ruled and the weak endured.
It is why political systems evolved and laws were invented.

John,

Since 2016, we have all lived in Trump World. Even the 4 years that he was out of office.
He does what he does. He isn't going stop.

I am glad to see that you have so much respect for the words of the "conservative" head of SCOTUS. I'll remind you of that in the future.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, it's a new era, no one will even remember that this happened in a month.

As far as strong men etc,
democracy's greatest enemy is the collective morality of the governed. When that turns to SH+t, as it has, it opens the door for criminals and the strong men who promise to stop them. And then ordinary people have to choose between personal safety, law and order, and concerns about notions of "democracy"...as defined by John the Canadian?

Biden and Harris were "DEFENDERS OF DEMOCRACY." Trump is trying to remove the lethal predators from our lives that their vision of democracy allowed close to us.

QUESTION:
Of the presidents and candidates, who is actually the greater threat to democracy?

ps...the US is a representative republic. I do not have a direct vote in what congress spends money on.