Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
Ok, so an American harvest holiday that started more than 200 years AFTER the events you are talking about is now somehow emblematic of what has been done to the indigenous population?

Drink that Koolaid by all means.

But harvest thanks and all kinds of agricultural rituals have been with us since the dawn of agriculture. It was not original to America's indigenous peoples nor the Puritans

If I was looking at causes of indigenous exploitation, I would start with settlers who wanted to clearly own and demarcate their lands and resources on it and all the government actions that moved people off their traditional lands...all the killing done in the name of America (Canada, Australia...etc...you are not alone) ....but not some ancient holiday drawn from millenia BC to our 2024 CE

BTW, Thanksgiving was apparently FIRST proposed in 1863 as a way to heal from the Civil War and only later in the century did they link it to the Pilgrims.....probably to entrench it more...dunno.

Oh and your comment that I said "everybody loves it" is a total mischaracterization of what I said...which is "it is different for everyody...reflects who they are and what circumstance they are in.

Whaaaa you're still talking?

No, that was one point of several I presented here, the holiday is stressful, it's hard work, it's aloit of hoopla about nothing. You are zeroing in on one....

It's about stuffing and engorging oneself. Unbuckling ones belt . Going to living room and watching tv.

Sure it's still something most of us are going to do, as tradition holds. It has some wonderful points to it

But the op was about the holidays, thanksgivng, losing it's luster