""Similarly, regarding Christ of 2k ago, I need some proof for that being accurate as told in the bible.

You do not need proof of something in which you have Faith, By its very definition Faith doesn’t require proof...just belief.


How arrogant it seems to me... to require proof of the Spirit of creation.

There is no proof, only Faith""



I think that you and I agree on that point Steve. I have seen "faith" defined as "belief without evidence."
That's the point I've been making.
You appear to see faith as a factor that overrides any shortcomings in supporting facts. I see it as coming up short on facts.


Be all that as it may, I have no desire to be the guy debating all the "faithful" on the songwriter forum.
Tony was my limit on perpetual back-and-forths.
Back to my original point to him....there are more suitable places than a songwriter forum to debate religious beliefs. Religion is socially divisive a great deal of the time.

Martin