Label me disappointed the post is gone Brian...

Now I am not blaming you or the mod for doing what was considered best.....but I do have to bring something up

My wife grew up in Germany which was heavily "regulated" by the Allies post war---even what was on the education agenda in schools was dictated to them

German kids were taught that the war was their fault and that their country had been bamboozled by Hitler who wrote about the usefulness and strategic value of Big Lies aimed at the emotions of people.

Right in Mein Kampf ...black and white

With the USA so polarized by The Big (election steal) Lie, there is a real danger to your democratic institutions...when the one party that gets into power so vilifies the other....and the likes of Trump claims he alone is the arbiter of truth for the USA and the GOP and his hangers on will not contradict him for fear of "alienating their base"

Ironic that Germany's lesson is lost on those who articulated it and placed in on their education agenda for every (West German) school kid to learn

So I see nothing wrong with healthy discussions around this...even if they cross the line at times....in fact they need to be had

You can go back and you will see that even if I do not agree on all things with Marty, we respect eachother...and I do not see anyone as being disingenuous to stir the pot...people have their honest POVs ...I believe the same can be said about most if not all participants...certainly the "regulars"

I can also be brought around...would never have thought I would I would agree with Marty about his Second Amendment rights (rights of the community to live safely should be more important)...but I now do...and that would not happen if we could not occasionally put others on their heels and force them to come back swinging so to speak

One thing I will try to refrain from is phrasing things so their tone does not take away from the point. I have been accused or arrogance\condescension etc which was not my intent, but that did get in the way ...so lesson hopefully learned

If writing ever becomes work I think I'm going to have to stop