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Tammy,

When you're dealing with a large number of songs that get entered into the system throughout the month, some songs will always come up more often as the system play's catch up. And not just catch up for the new songs, but also for the other songs that need to be matched to all the new songs. If there was a predictable pattern then the system would be much easier to fix. Also take into account that the vast majority of the voting takes place in the last few days. So you'll see all sorts of extreme things happen in those days when probably 80+ of all the voting happens.

The fact that you made the overall finals last month and this month you're complaining that the system isn't fair in some way is ridiculous. If it's not fair then you benefited from that unfairness. Are you going to return the category win in protest?

If 100 people vote in the first 3 weeks and then 5000 vote in the last day, which is going to have the most impact and what's going to happen? Chaos is what happens in the rankings. Stuff at the top goes down, stuff at the bottom goes up.

I am watching how people are screening on the JPF awards and the vast differences of opinions is apparent there. Some people mark something as special or flag a half dozen songs off of 1 album and just as many flag nothing from that one at all. When we do the overall song of the year voting, we have to remind ourselves that those final top songs didn't even get a single vote in the final round from most (i.e. more than 50%) of the voters. Yet one of them has to win based on the final voting results. So over 50% of the people will rightfully say "I didn't even think that song was in the top songs of it's own category, let alone the best overall song of the awards" and in their opinion they are 100% correct. But large numbers of votes in these types of things produce results that sometimes even a majority of voters strongly disagree with.

I've spent a lot of time with the Ourstage folks and I know they do everything they can to make the system as fair and honest as is possible. Scumbag artists who try to rig/fix the system suck a lot of options out of the process. Give people ANY chance to be dishonest and sadly many of them will be. So when you have to work so hard to protect from cheaters, so transparent and straight forward systems can't be used. It's reality.

If you guys don't like it, don't use the site. If you do, why not spend a little time talking about how great it is that a company out there is providing a free site to boost up the indie music community when there's so little chances to get any feedback, good or bad, at all from other places? Nothing will ever be perfect, but hell, 4 of the last 6 $5000 dollar winners have been JPF members. (Several of which are regulars here). Tammy nearly won it all last month. You guys aren't cheating right? Any yet your music did very well. What in the heck is the downside here?

Bitch and complain constantly as some have done here for a year and one day it will be gone and we won't be better off for it.

Brian