I think Brian you are being a tad hard. I respect all singers and performers regardless of talent. That does not mean that I have to like what they do. That said I was referring to some songs, if you can call them that, that quite honestly are a disgrace. I can cite examples. There was a drunk bimbo squealing happy birthday several times and giggling and some guy screaming into a mic as loud as he could and growling like a monster. There is a big difference when somebody is not very good but you can see they are genuine and trying to produce music and others who are just playing silly games.