12 members (Fdemetrio, bennash, Sunset Poet, David Gill, Guy E. Trepanier, Raymond Byabazaire, rpirone, Everett Adams, Calvin, 3 invisible),
3,539
guests, and
4,818
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Welcome to the Just Plain Folks forums! You are currently viewing our forums as a Guest which gives you limited access to most of our discussions and to other features.
By joining our free community you will have access to post and respond to topics, communicate privately with our users (PM), respond to polls, upload content, and access many other features. Registration is fast, simple, and absolutely free; so please join our community today!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
tystringz
by Gary E. Andrews - 09/24/25 05:06 PM
|
Cardiacs
by Gary E. Andrews - 09/24/25 05:05 PM
|
|
|
|
|
Jon Gomm
by Gary E. Andrews - 09/24/25 12:27 AM
|
Jon Gomm
by Gary E. Andrews - 09/24/25 12:13 AM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,609 Likes: 101
Top 200 Poster
|
Top 200 Poster
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,609 Likes: 101 |
Jesus Christ , you guys go off lol
Retired from all music endeavors . at least 98 %
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,100 Likes: 66
Top 40 Poster
|
Top 40 Poster
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,100 Likes: 66 |
You triggered this entire episode Elvis. ;;)
You re the firestarter. 😉
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,609 Likes: 101
Top 200 Poster
|
Top 200 Poster
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,609 Likes: 101 |
ha ha ha , I just said things would not change , it hasn't. This site basically has 5 members
Last edited by bennash; 09/16/25 12:20 AM.
Retired from all music endeavors . at least 98 %
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,396 Likes: 40
Top 200 Poster
|
Top 200 Poster
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,396 Likes: 40 |
Speaking of learning how to play guitar....
Today marks what would have been the 100th birthday of B.B. King.
Peace,
Dave
"Where there's a Gill, there's a way"
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,100 Likes: 66
Top 40 Poster
|
Top 40 Poster
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,100 Likes: 66 |
ha ha ha , I just said things would not change , it hasn't. This site basically has 5 members I suspect that there are many "members" that look in here. But they see the off-topic arguing and trolling that goes on day to day. They see that the handful of active people who remain are old and are not actually in the music. They don't approach. Can that really be changed? I'm not sure if it can be, but I am reasonably certain that allowing the things that brought this site to it's current condition, will end it. However, I may be the only one here who thinks that off-topic and inflammatory topics should be banned. Any name calling whatsoever should be banned. Polite and cordial discourse should be strictly enforced. As you can see, I'm not afraid to engage it, but the reason that I came here was to put up songs, not argue about Trump. There are millions of sites dedicated to doing that. To me this place is a bit like Chicago...Trump offers to come into crime ridden dysfunctional cities and tamp criminals down, and the local guys call Trump Hitler. They argue vehemently to defend and prolong their own malaise.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 19,971 Likes: 31
Top 10 Poster
|
OP
Top 10 Poster
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 19,971 Likes: 31 |
Actually Ben, if that was your 30 bucks, thank you. Your name was not attached, it was a company name.
As for the board, we are close enough on donations, thank to Dave, Ben and a half dozen people on Facebook who chipped in that don't even post here. Interesting that they value the board more than people who spend hours everyday here, but alas, that is reality.
I now have to wait for the company to find the time to actually do it, if the board is down in the next 2 weeks, that is why.
Brian
Brian Austin Whitney Founder Just Plain Folks jpfolkspro@gmail.com Skype: Brian Austin Whitney Facebook: www.facebook.com/justplainfolks"Don't sit around and wait for success to come to you... it doesn't know the way." -Brian Austin Whitney "It's easier to be the bigger man when you actually are..." -Brian Austin Whitney "Sometimes all you have to do to inspire humans to greatness is to give them a reason and opportunity to do something great." -Brian Austin Whitney
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 7,583 Likes: 61
Top 30 Poster
|
Top 30 Poster
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 7,583 Likes: 61 |
That's non sense that people are not participating because they read off topic threads.
They may not like topics, although many don't t care if it aligns with their thoughts.
You refuse to acknowledge the most basic thing there is, NOT enough songs being posted not enough rotation, and the biggest of all bullshite, pointless reviews.
Geez I wasted all that time in this song, and all any can say is..good job, pleasant melody, pretty song.
Obvious, let me throw that at you so you come to mine, yes I know I said nothing, had no real interest in where your cooking from with your song, but I want you to come to mine.
The flame wars have always always existed here, Christianity threads, political threads,opinions on in everything have been posted here.
The forum still thrived. there wasn't 15 minutes going by without something new being posted.
If a dozen writers didn't post, another dozen did, it was an endless supply of members.
Your assumptions are wrong it has always been yap city here.
The issue is there's no writers left.
Last edited by Fdemetrio; 09/16/25 08:30 AM.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,100 Likes: 66
Top 40 Poster
|
Top 40 Poster
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,100 Likes: 66 |
Dom,
You refuse to acknowledge that when you descend on people's song threads, tell them what you think that they need to do to become better songwriters, castigate them and ride them with name calling when they say that they don't accept the opinion of a random un-credentialed troll...
that is and you are the single biggest participation killer here.
Sites that I visit which have healthy participation shut that down. Healthy participation cannot go on if trolls are harassing people who display their efforts.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 19,971 Likes: 31
Top 10 Poster
|
OP
Top 10 Poster
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 19,971 Likes: 31 |
That's non sense that people are not participating because they read off topic threads.
They may not like topics, although many don't t care if it aligns with their thoughts.
You refuse to acknowledge the most basic thing there is, NOT enough songs being posted not enough rotation, and the biggest of all bullshite, pointless reviews.
Geez I wasted all that time in this song, and all any can say is..good job, pleasant melody, pretty song.
Obvious, let me throw that at you so you come to mine, yes I know I said nothing, had no real interest in where your cooking from with your song, but I want you to come to mine.
The flame wars have always always existed here, Christianity threads, political threads,opinions on in everything have been posted here.
The forum still thrived. there wasn't 15 minutes going by without something new being posted.
If a dozen writers didn't post, another dozen did, it was an endless supply of members.
Your assumptions are wrong it has always been yap city here.
The issue is there's no writers left. Writers are using new tools, new sites, new social media. People still want info, and some of our oldest posts still catch internet searches. There's not much music content out there without a paywall. We also get tons of international traffic from Europe, Japan, Australia, Brazil, India and Canada/Mexico. People are searching for songwriting tips, and also reading examples of lyrics. It's amazing how much traffic lyrics get! I don't think they are likely to follow a link to another site, so many places have dangerous links and people are smart not to trust random links that could be malicious. But if people post their lyrics or any real conversation is taking place that isn't the droning on between you 3, it gets views. It's also interesting to see how many registered users still visit the site, but don't log in. They are still checking in by the thousands every month. We haven't had a working sign up for 3 years. The Captcha thing is broke. I am hoping the update will fix that as well. Every time Windows does an update, it seems to affect how the entire web works. And one more feature stops working here.
Brian Austin Whitney Founder Just Plain Folks jpfolkspro@gmail.com Skype: Brian Austin Whitney Facebook: www.facebook.com/justplainfolks"Don't sit around and wait for success to come to you... it doesn't know the way." -Brian Austin Whitney "It's easier to be the bigger man when you actually are..." -Brian Austin Whitney "Sometimes all you have to do to inspire humans to greatness is to give them a reason and opportunity to do something great." -Brian Austin Whitney
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,100 Likes: 66
Top 40 Poster
|
Top 40 Poster
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,100 Likes: 66 |
But if people post their lyrics or any real conversation is taking place that isn't the droning on between you 3, it gets views. It's also interesting to see how many registered users still visit the site, but don't log in. They are still checking in by the thousands every month. I've said over and over that the site's main attraction is arguments and trolling, not songs. Wouldn't it be nice if all of that disappeared and the site was about songs?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,100 Likes: 66
Top 40 Poster
|
Top 40 Poster
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,100 Likes: 66 |
Dom
You have descended on the song's of damn near everyone on this site who posts something.
Then you give your opinion, then they often say that they dont agree and accept it, and then you harangue them indefinitely, almost always proclaiming them as "talentless." And you pepper in misc insults and delusions such as "marty puppets." Over and over and over. They leave and wont come back.
Your link is proof of nothing. You are not the cure. You are the disease.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 7,583 Likes: 61
Top 30 Poster
|
Top 30 Poster
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 7,583 Likes: 61 |
As opposed to, nice job, pleasant melody.
The people in that thread were all into it, into songwriters, interested in helping the writer push if needed
Marty's ideas of reviews are useless
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 7,583 Likes: 61
Top 30 Poster
|
Top 30 Poster
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 7,583 Likes: 61 |
Dom
You have descended on the song's of damn near everyone on this site who posts something.
Then you give your opinion, then they often say that they dont agree and accept it, and then you harangue them indefinitely, almost always proclaiming them as "talentless." And you pepper in misc insults and delusions such as "marty puppets." Over and over and over. They leave and wont come back.
Your link is proof of nothing. You are not the cure. You are the disease. My comments on songs were not different than the above example. It was just you trying to redefine what a songwriters forum is that you scape goated me
Last edited by Fdemetrio; 09/16/25 09:12 AM.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,100 Likes: 66
Top 40 Poster
|
Top 40 Poster
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,100 Likes: 66 |
As opposed to, nice job, pleasant melody.
The people in that thread were all into it, into songwriters, interested in helping the writer push if needed
Marty's ideas of reviews are useless As stated a thousand times, My belief is that, I can only tell someone how to write my songs, in accordance with my sensibilities and interest. I do not believe myself to be a qualified "instructor." So I don't start breaking people's work down and re-building it for them. It's theirs, not mine. But I desire to encourage them in some way...so when I hear something that I genuinely like, I MAY make a suggestion....light and short...but at the least, I'll say that "I enjoyed listening." What other people say is up to them. Most people leave a comment and move on.But not you. You harangue them. And, is the price of that annoyance worth paying because of your years of experience writing hits for radio artists? No. It's just a troll on a website being allowed to harass participants.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 7,583 Likes: 61
Top 30 Poster
|
Top 30 Poster
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 7,583 Likes: 61 |
As opposed to, nice job, pleasant melody.
The people in that thread were all into it, into songwriters, interested in helping the writer push if needed
Marty's ideas of reviews are useless As stated a thousand times, My belief is that, I can only tell someone how to write my songs, in accordance with my sensibilities and interest. I do not believe myself to be a qualified "instructor." So I don't start breaking people's work down and re-building it for them. It's theirs, not mine. But I desire to encourage them in some way...so when I hear something that I genuinely like, I MAY make a suggestion....light and short...but at the least, I'll say that "I enjoyed listening." What other people say is up to them. Most people leave a comment and move on.But not you. You harangue them. And, is the price of that annoyance worth paying because of your years of experience writing hits for radio artists? No. It's just a troll on a website being allowed to harass participants. But maybe YOUR belief, is just that. You have to show genuine interest in the other person's music to do it right. This way when you hear a great review of your song you can believe it. I can ensure you ir anyone here my reviews were always honest, fair and unbiased. It just seems like an attack cause you want it to be that when i got fired back on that's when it got ugly
Last edited by Fdemetrio; 09/16/25 09:22 AM.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,100 Likes: 66
Top 40 Poster
|
Top 40 Poster
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,100 Likes: 66 |
But maybe YOUR belief, is just that.
You have to show genuine interest in the other person's music to do it right.
This way when you hear a great review of your song you can believe it.
I can ensure you ir anyone here my reviews were always honest, fair and unbiased.
It just seems like an attack cause you want it to be that Dom You are in denial. You are a troll looking for and feeding off of an argument. If you were not, you would leave a comment on someone's song and move on. If you were altruistic, you would not proclaim them "talentless" and numerous other demeaning things when they pushed you off. Additionally, you have no real-world-tested experience to share with anyone. If Rick Beato was here giving no-punches-pulled critiques of poster's songs...I would hang on every word that he wrote. But you dont bring anything like that, you bring trolling, name calling and questionable non-reality-tested advice.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 7,583 Likes: 61
Top 30 Poster
|
Top 30 Poster
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 7,583 Likes: 61 |
But maybe YOUR belief, is just that.
You have to show genuine interest in the other person's music to do it right.
This way when you hear a great review of your song you can believe it.
I can ensure you ir anyone here my reviews were always honest, fair and unbiased.
It just seems like an attack cause you want it to be that Dom You are in denial. You are a troll looking for and feeding off of an argument. If you were not, you would leave a comment on someone's song and move on. If you were altruistic, you would not proclaim them "talentless" and numerous other demeaning things when they pushed you off. Additionally, you have no real-world-tested experience to share with anyone. If Rick Beato was here giving no-punches-pulled critiques of poster's songs...I would hang on every word that he wrote. But you dont bring anything like that, you bring trolling, name calling and questionable non-reality-tested advice. So what do you bring? Dictatorship, I want an ai forum, I don't, wait I do, let's attack all of doms music regardless how good it is, so we can stop getting ai on the forum. Wait, I suck ai is better, let's now all embrace ai. Denial? You have done nothing but whine since you've been here,trying to force your way regardless if it's the right wayvor not
Last edited by Fdemetrio; 09/16/25 09:43 AM.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,100 Likes: 66
Top 40 Poster
|
Top 40 Poster
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,100 Likes: 66 |
So what do you bring?
Dictatorship, I want an ai forum, I don't, wait I do, let's attack all of doms music regardless how good it is, so we can stop getting ai on the forum.
Wait, I suck ai is better, let's now all embrace ai.
Denial? You have done nothing but whine since you've been here,trying to force your way regardless if it's the right wayvor not Dictatorship? Yes, I am fascist. There are pictures of Adolf Hitler and Stalin and Mao and Rasputin and Ivan the Impaler, taped to the ceiling directly over my bed, so that I can see and admire them, very first thing every morning. Now... the unbridled stupidity and knuckle dragger insults start again. Gonna pass. It's all been covered. I gave Brian an opportunity to tell me to leave his site for good if he prefers and thinks that it would be better off if I did. I would comply. Tony dropped in and gave that a push, But, Brian did not. The offer is still there. I plan to post AI songs, and recorded stuff when I have time to make them. I suggest, once again, that you and Tony ignore me, and my posts, and my threads and leave me alone. I am fine ignoring you. If you don't, I'll hand it back.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 7,583 Likes: 61
Top 30 Poster
|
Top 30 Poster
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 7,583 Likes: 61 |
So what do you bring?
Dictatorship, I want an ai forum, I don't, wait I do, let's attack all of doms music regardless how good it is, so we can stop getting ai on the forum.
Wait, I suck ai is better, let's now all embrace ai.
Denial? You have done nothing but whine since you've been here,trying to force your way regardless if it's the right wayvor not Dictatorship? Yes, I am fascist. There are pictures of Adolf Hitler and Stalin and Mao and Rasputin and Ivan the Impaler, taped to the ceiling directly over my bed, so that I can see and admire them, very first thing every morning. Now... the unbridled stupidity and knuckle dragger insults start again. Gonna pass. It's all been covered. I gave Brian an opportunity to tell me to leave his site for good if he prefers and thinks that it would be better off if I did. I would comply. Tony dropped in and gave that a push, But, Brian did not. The offer is still there. I plan to post AI songs, and recorded stuff when I have time to make them. I suggest, once again, that you and Tony ignore me, and my posts, and my threads and leave me alone. I am fine ignoring you. If you don't, I'll hand it back. but theirn may be the whole problem. You gave BRIAN opportunity for YOU to leave? Your sense of self importance is unparalled. WHO CAREs? Now I'm giving you the golden opportunity to be quiet
Last edited by Fdemetrio; 09/16/25 12:23 PM.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,100 Likes: 66
Top 40 Poster
|
Top 40 Poster
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,100 Likes: 66 |
You do. I am your boogeyman, dictator, fixation. Same as Tony. Leaving me alone would be easy for a reasonably normal person. Everybody here does, except you and Tony. Because you all can't. When it's quiet you seek me out with un-prompted insults. Just like you can't resist the impulse to call people demeaning names who reject your personal opinions of their songs.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 5,950 Likes: 147
Top 50 Poster
|
Top 50 Poster
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 5,950 Likes: 147 |
I gave Brian an opportunity to tell me to leave his site for good if he prefers and thinks that it would be better off if I did. I would comply. Tony dropped in and gave that a push, But, Brian did not. I simply can't stand my name being spoken by lying fuk'n'assholes. Otherwise, I just lurk out of morbid curiosity... 45yrs of songwriting, my favorite pastime, has amounted to nothing.
DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME HERE... CANCEL CULTURE IS ALIVE AND WELL @JPF! YOU'LL NEVER KNOW WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN DELETED...
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,100 Likes: 66
Top 40 Poster
|
Top 40 Poster
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,100 Likes: 66 |
I gave Brian an opportunity to tell me to leave his site for good if he prefers and thinks that it would be better off if I did. I would comply. Tony dropped in and gave that a push, But, Brian did not. I simply can't stand my name being spoken by lying fuk'n'assholes. Otherwise, I just lurk out of morbid curiosity... 45yrs of songwriting has amounted to nothing. I have offered to completely ignore you as long as you reciprocated...several times. You rejected that offer and stated that you were going to make a point of harassing my posts. I am still willing to completely ignore you as long as you leave me completely alone. Are you ready to have that understanding?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 5,950 Likes: 147
Top 50 Poster
|
Top 50 Poster
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 5,950 Likes: 147 |
I have offered to completely ignore you as long as you reciprocated...several times. You rejected that offer and stated that you were going to make a point of harassing my posts.
I am still willing to completely ignore you as long as you leave me completely alone. Are you ready to have that understanding? Mr Lide, If you weren't such a contemptuous prick, would you bother asking me such a stupid fuk'n question?
DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME HERE... CANCEL CULTURE IS ALIVE AND WELL @JPF! YOU'LL NEVER KNOW WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN DELETED...
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,100 Likes: 66
Top 40 Poster
|
Top 40 Poster
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,100 Likes: 66 |
Mr Lide, If you weren't such a contemptuous prick, would you bother asking me such a stupid fuk'n question? Of course you arent interested in simply stopping the acrimony, Tony. You want the acrimony and distractions such as "rant arenas." You lament the Shakespearian loss of "45 years of songwriting my favorite pass-time, that has amounted to nothing." Woe be unto you. Rant arenas and end time proclamations are not songwriting. They are Tony's romper room, Tony's arguments and Tony's fun-time chaos. Your dysfunction makes me feel a bit sorry for you. But we have lived in a world for decades where the lowest common denominators get to unleash their dysfunction on the rest of us and we are expected to put up with. Charlie Kirk was very effective at eloquently pointing that out on college campuses, and a bevy of freaks murdered him. People are tired of it. Dont be a freak. Be polite. Be productive.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 5,950 Likes: 147
Top 50 Poster
|
Top 50 Poster
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 5,950 Likes: 147 |
DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME HERE... CANCEL CULTURE IS ALIVE AND WELL @JPF! YOU'LL NEVER KNOW WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN DELETED...
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,100 Likes: 66
Top 40 Poster
|
Top 40 Poster
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,100 Likes: 66 |
Tony, You're putting up painstaking evidence that you're nuts.
Think what you will.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,115 Likes: 52
Top 500 Poster
|
Top 500 Poster
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,115 Likes: 52 |
Any name calling whatsoever should be banned. Polite and cordial discourse should be strictly enforced. Marty, your quote here made me laugh. I remember that you said a lot of things to me that weren't very nice. I'm not keen on repeating them. YES, I fully agree with you. But that applies to you as well. It's funny that our country is now discussing this exact topic. Where does one draw the line between hate speech and free speech. Polite and cordial ... these days one has to ask, what that is.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 7,583 Likes: 61
Top 30 Poster
|
Top 30 Poster
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 7,583 Likes: 61 |
Heres my offer. Everybody shut the hell up
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,100 Likes: 66
Top 40 Poster
|
Top 40 Poster
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,100 Likes: 66 |
Any name calling whatsoever should be banned. Polite and cordial discourse should be strictly enforced. Marty, your quote here made me laugh. I remember that you said a lot of things to me that weren't very nice. I'm not keen on repeating them. YES, I fully agree with you. But that applies to you as well. It's funny that our country is now discussing this exact topic. Where does one draw the line between hate speech and free speech. Polite and cordial ... these days one has to ask, what that is. Rob, I'm pretty sure that you are a "marty puppet. So you are supposed to fall in line with my autocratic decrees. The two things that I have said to you that seem to set you off the most; #1 I've said that you have TDS and the affliction gives you a psychological addiction to anything TRUMP-HATE. I like you and you may hate that I said that...but I believe that. Sorry. I said that in response to your TRUMP-BASH posts. That's why politics is a incendiary topic...if a person talks openly. #2 I said that if you keep bashing Trump, that he is going to send his secret police out, to pick you up and throw you into a blacked-out van. And then, They are going to chop your leg of at the knee. And then, they are going to feed it to Trump for dinner. after which, he is going to pick his teeth with the smaller bones. THAT made you apoplectic, which baffled the hell out of me, but offered substantial proof of #1. Try to relax. 
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,100 Likes: 66
Top 40 Poster
|
Top 40 Poster
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,100 Likes: 66 |
Heres my offer. Everybody shut the hell up The voice of reason? I convened a meeting of the "marty puppets." All were in attendance. I ask the "marty puppets" if they believed that you have an unhinged obsession regarding the belief that I control how other people respond to you on this site. There was discussion and then a vote. The "marty puppets" unanimously voted that you are obsessed with me. I said to the "marty puppets,"... the vote is unanimous, how can you all be so certain. The "marty puppets" responded...."we are the proof."
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,115 Likes: 52
Top 500 Poster
|
Top 500 Poster
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,115 Likes: 52 |
The two things that I have said to you that seem to set you off the most; #1 I've said that you have TDS and the affliction gives you a psychological addiction to anything TRUMP-HATE. I like you...but believe that. Sorry. I said that in response to your TRUMP-BASH posts. #2 I said that if you keep bashing Trump, that he is going to send his secret police out, to pick you up and throw you into a blacked-out van. And then, They are going to chop your leg of at the knee. And then, they are going to feed it to Trump for dinner. after which, he is going to pick his teeth with the smaller bones. THAT made you apoplectic, which baffled the hell out of me, but offered substantial proof of #1. Try to relax.  Marty, do you remember what I wrote that triggered that response of yours? I wrote that the stock market was going down and tariffs were going up and I said Trump better be careful what he was doing. That wasn't a hate post and I didn't bash him. You responded by calling me a Trump-hater, and the other stuff you just repeated. Marty, you just wrote here: Polite and cordial discourse should be strictly enforced. Yes, I agree. But this should apply to you as well. Let us end this discussion.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,609 Likes: 101
Top 200 Poster
|
Top 200 Poster
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,609 Likes: 101 |
What does this have anything to do with going to songs and post a few comments ?
Retired from all music endeavors . at least 98 %
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,100 Likes: 66
Top 40 Poster
|
Top 40 Poster
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,100 Likes: 66 |
do you remember what I wrote that triggered that response of yours? I wrote that the stock market was going down and tariffs were going up and I said Trump better be careful what he was doing. That wasn't a hate post and I didn't bash him. You responded by calling me a Trump-hater, and the other stuff you just repeated. Marty, you just wrote here: Polite and cordial discourse should be strictly enforced. Yes, I agree. But this should apply to you as well. Let us end this discussion. Rob, You dont ever put up anything about Trump that doesn't bash him. What you consider to be factual reality and completely justified is Trump bashing. early on in the tariff issue, you looked at the movement of the tariffs in the first few days. You extended that ("I did the math") and claimed that tariffs were going to hit 500% at their current rate of ascendance. I said that was hyperbolic and ridiculously unlikely and the back-and-forth went on from there. I said that line of thinking was just hand-me-down talking points from propaganda machines. I stand by that and was correct. I was not being rude, but I was being frank. You are the one that shows up with the unsolicited political Trump-bash posts. It seems to me that you are going to view any rebuttal as rude. I am a conservative in a blue city in a red state. I am surrounded by Trump haters, open border advocates, no bail advocates and on and on. As a result, my skin is a lot thicker than theirs. You all bash TRUMP? and consider anything that you say as righteous and true. I defend him? I'm a barbarian. That is why I suggest you take your political concerns to one of the millions of sites that invite arguments...rather than a songwriter site.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,100 Likes: 66
Top 40 Poster
|
Top 40 Poster
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,100 Likes: 66 |
What does this have anything to do with going to songs and post a few comments ? Look at the activity and onlookers, It displays the disconnect between a site for songwriters and what you actually get...all in one thread.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,100 Likes: 66
Top 40 Poster
|
Top 40 Poster
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,100 Likes: 66 |
And Rob,
In the song section, when you post, how would you characterize my comments on your songs?
Marty
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,115 Likes: 52
Top 500 Poster
|
Top 500 Poster
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,115 Likes: 52 |
I stand by that and was correct. I was not being rude, but I was being frank. You are the one that shows up with the unsolicited political Trump-bash posts. Marty, your argumentation shows that America has some big problems to solve in the future. In your opinion, my posts were apparently Trump-bashing, Trump-hate posts. The way you see it, what you wrote about ME was frank, polite and cordial. So, according to you, I’m the one who should be banned. I never attacked you personally. Marty, I can’t describe what I’m feeling at the moment.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,609 Likes: 101
Top 200 Poster
|
Top 200 Poster
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,609 Likes: 101 |
Right , politics , The most boring subject
Retired from all music endeavors . at least 98 %
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,100 Likes: 66
Top 40 Poster
|
Top 40 Poster
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,100 Likes: 66 |
Marty, your argumentation shows that America has some big problems to solve in the future. In your opinion, my posts were apparently Trump-bashing, Trump-hate posts. The way you see it, what you wrote about ME was frank, polite and cordial. So, according to you, I’m the one who should be banned. I never attacked you personally. Marty, I can’t describe what I’m feeling at the moment. Rob, If I cast a vote, it would be to ban politics and religion from this site. But never to ban you. And if you keep citing reasons why Trump's actions should be eschewed, I'm not going to hate you for you or want you gone. If what you are feeling at the moment is based upon this conversation, then there is a disconnect with what I am feeling. I'm just having a conversation. I have no animosity towards you and compliment all of your songs.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,115 Likes: 52
Top 500 Poster
|
Top 500 Poster
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,115 Likes: 52 |
If I cast a vote, it would be to ban politics and religion from this site. Sorry Marty, when I said the stock market is falling because the tariffs are going up and Trump better be careful what he is doing, you classified that as hate speech. WTF? I didn’t attack YOU! Look at your response! Now you say that your response was correct, not rude, just frank and I’m the one that shows up with unsolicited political Trump-bash posts. I can’t follow your logic. You suggest that we ban politics and religion here. Why? Can’t you handle the truth? Trump sets huge tariffs on China and the stock market goes down. That’s what happened that day. If you can’t handle that, just go to the songwriting sections of this site. This site allows us to speak freely. You don’t have to agree with what everybody says. But like you said Marty, name-calling should be banned and we should all be polite and cordial. Brian should not have to enforce any rules. We are old enough to know what we should and shouldn’t do. I have to say it again, in that specific post I did not bash Trump! Period. Your response was rude.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 7,583 Likes: 61
Top 30 Poster
|
Top 30 Poster
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 7,583 Likes: 61 |
Marty is rude cause he looks like Mr Rogers,ud be rude too.
I must say, I love what trump does as far as crime.
I mean Chicago, gangs have 345 story buildings , where they sell drugs, cops are afraid to go in there. Bring in the guard I'm all for that
And he [naughty word removed] up a drug boat today I believe if coke and fentanyl headed our way.
That's where Trump shines, if only there were a balance
Last edited by Fdemetrio; 09/16/25 06:16 PM.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,115 Likes: 52
Top 500 Poster
|
Top 500 Poster
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,115 Likes: 52 |
Heres my offer. Everybody shut the hell up Are you making an offer? Are you a deal-maker or what? Fdem, if you can’t deal with what people post in the “General Message Forum” then go somewhere else. You say “Everybody should shut the hell up”. I agree with Marty here, polite and cordial discourse should be enforced. “Shut the hell up”? You can surely say that differently! In America we have freedom of speech! If you don’t like what people post here, go away!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,100 Likes: 66
Top 40 Poster
|
Top 40 Poster
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,100 Likes: 66 |
If I cast a vote, it would be to ban politics and religion from this site. Sorry Marty, when I said the stock market is falling because the tariffs are going up and Trump better be careful what he is doing, you classified that as hate speech. WTF? I didn’t attack YOU! Look at your response! Now you say that your response was correct, not rude, just frank and I’m the one that shows up with unsolicited political Trump-bash posts. I can’t follow your logic. You suggest that we ban politics and religion here. Why? Can’t you handle the truth? Trump sets huge tariffs on China and the stock market goes down. That’s what happened that day. If you can’t handle that, just go to the songwriting sections of this site. This site allows us to speak freely. You don’t have to agree with what everybody says. But like you said Marty, name-calling should be banned and we should all be polite and cordial. Brian should not have to enforce any rules. We are old enough to know what we should and shouldn’t do. I have to say it again, in that specific post I did not bash Trump! Period. Your response was rude. Rob, There is a disconnect here. I'm not getting the drama. The attack that you are referring to...is me saying that you have TDS. I believe that you do. I believe that you have the genuine clinical variety. Am I allowed to speak freely...about that? Or do I have to governor what I say in accordance with what you deem offensive. This is becoming another example of why politics gets out of hand and the vast majority of people in the world realize how divisive it is. ..if you want to keep good relations and productivity in tact. I compliment your songs every time that you put one up and I mean it. And I don't dislike you, but this encounter is odd. The Trump-gonna-eat-your-foot thing was just a joke and it surprisingly seemed to cause you great distress. I tell you what though... I asked Brian if he thought that his site would be better with me gone. I think... that he said no. No lines crossed. Tony and Dom are trolls...so I am unconcerned with their opinions. Odd as this back-and-forth is, I don't think that you are a Tony or Dom.
How about you be Brian's proxy and anyone else's that may feel the way that you do.
Do you think that I am a detriment to this site and prefer that I cease to post here altogether? Answer yes or no without elaboration...and I will do whatever you decide.
Marty
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,115 Likes: 52
Top 500 Poster
|
Top 500 Poster
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,115 Likes: 52 |
And he [naughty word removed] up a drug boat today I believe if coke and fentanyl headed our way.
That's where Trump shines, if only there were a balance Drug dealers and drugs traffickers in the US are arrested, not blown up or executed on the spot. Why is it different if they are in a boat?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 7,583 Likes: 61
Top 30 Poster
|
Top 30 Poster
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 7,583 Likes: 61 |
Heres my offer. Everybody shut the hell up Are you making an offer? Are you a deal-maker or what? Fdem, if you can’t deal with what people post in the “General Message Forum” then go somewhere else. You say “Everybody should shut the hell up”. I agree with Marty here, polite and cordial discourse should be enforced. “Shut the hell up”? You can surely say that differently! In America we have freedom of speech! If you don’t like what people post here, go away! Cause it's 4 mindless twits all going in different directions, yes, a hefty dose of shut the hell up, including you over there
Last edited by Fdemetrio; 09/16/25 06:27 PM.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 7,583 Likes: 61
Top 30 Poster
|
Top 30 Poster
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 7,583 Likes: 61 |
And he [naughty word removed] up a drug boat today I believe if coke and fentanyl headed our way.
That's where Trump shines, if only there were a balance Drug dealers and drugs traffickers in the US are arrested, not blown up or executed on the spot. Why is it different if they are in a boat? It doesn't make difference how, your right but fact is they won't be arrested., they won't get caught. Hes actively seeking them out .And were spending our tax dollars defending them. No brainer
Last edited by Fdemetrio; 09/16/25 06:31 PM.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,100 Likes: 66
Top 40 Poster
|
Top 40 Poster
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,100 Likes: 66 |
Rob, In case this was overlooked... If I cast a vote, it would be to ban politics and religion from this site. Sorry Marty, when I said the stock market is falling because the tariffs are going up and Trump better be careful what he is doing, you classified that as hate speech. WTF? I didn’t attack YOU! Look at your response! Now you say that your response was correct, not rude, just frank and I’m the one that shows up with unsolicited political Trump-bash posts. I can’t follow your logic. You suggest that we ban politics and religion here. Why? Can’t you handle the truth? Trump sets huge tariffs on China and the stock market goes down. That’s what happened that day. If you can’t handle that, just go to the songwriting sections of this site. This site allows us to speak freely. You don’t have to agree with what everybody says. But like you said Marty, name-calling should be banned and we should all be polite and cordial. Brian should not have to enforce any rules. We are old enough to know what we should and shouldn’t do. I have to say it again, in that specific post I did not bash Trump! Period. Your response was rude. Rob, There is a disconnect here. I'm not getting the drama. The attack that you are referring to...is me saying that you have TDS. I believe that you do. I believe that you have the genuine clinical variety. Am I allowed to speak freely...about that? Or do I have to governor what I say in accordance with what you deem offensive. This is becoming another example of why politics gets out of hand and the vast majority of people in the world realize how divisive it is. ..if you want to keep good relations and productivity in tact. I compliment your songs every time that you put one up and I mean it. And I don't dislike you, but this encounter is odd. The Trump-gonna-eat-your-foot thing was just a joke and it surprisingly seemed to cause you great distress. I tell you what though... I asked Brian if he thought that his site would be better with me gone. I think... that he said no. No lines crossed. Tony and Dom are trolls...so I am unconcerned with their opinions. Odd as this back-and-forth is, I don't think that you are a Tony or Dom.
How about you be Brian's proxy and anyone else's that may feel the way that you do.
Do you think that I am a detriment to this site and prefer that I cease to post here altogether? Answer yes or no without elaboration...and I will do whatever you decide.
Marty
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,115 Likes: 52
Top 500 Poster
|
Top 500 Poster
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,115 Likes: 52 |
Do you think that I am a detriment to this site and prefer that I cease to post here altogether? Answer yes or no without elaboration...and I will do whatever you decide.
Marty[/color] Marty, everybody should be able to speak freely here. All I’m asking you to do is what you yourself said: be polite and cordial. I’m not mentally ill! I’m not suffering from TDS. I agree with some of the things Trump is doing, but there are a bunch of things that he could do better/differently. I’m not a Trump fan because he sexually assaulted women and for some reason, he has a problem with the truth. I’d still like to know what’s in the Epstein files. If Trump is a pedophile that would really change what I think of him. Please stay on this site because you are a great songwriter, we’ve worked together in the past and I enjoyed it. Let’s not let politics get in our way.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,100 Likes: 66
Top 40 Poster
|
Top 40 Poster
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,100 Likes: 66 |
Rob, I like you and I like your songs. But if you are going to insist on posting heavily biased political posts in the Trump era, then you are going to be playing with incendiary devices. I’m not a Trump fan because he sexually assaulted women and for some reason, he has a problem with the truth.. Do it if you will, but buck-up and skip the talk about feelings. "Feelings" talk is TDS talk. Marty
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,115 Likes: 52
Top 500 Poster
|
Top 500 Poster
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,115 Likes: 52 |
Heres my offer. Everybody shut the hell up You are not in a position to make any offers. If everybody did what you suggest, this site would be dead.
|
|
|
We would like to keep the membership in Just Plain Folks FREE! Your donation helps support the many programs we offer including Road Trips and the Music Awards.
|
|
Forums118
Topics127,740
Posts1,175,431
Members21,478
|
Most Online37,523 Jan 25th, 2020
|
|
"Never apologize for your work. If it's the best you can do, there's nothing to be sorry about and if it's not, you shouldn't be exposing anyone else to it in the first place." –Brian Austin Whitney
|
|
There are no members with birthdays on this day. |
|
|
|