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A VNORTH inspiration smile

Just a rough, but appropriate for a lazy Sunday...
https://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=14668592

I want a better life
Escape doesn't interest me
The carnage of the mongers
Provokes hostility

Drunk with wanton passion
That never satisfies
The devil laughs hysterically
As the saints wonder why

Just remember Jesus
Take a moment of time
Consider God's point of view
Calm and clear your mind
Strife is temporary
Heaven is eternity
An everlasting promise
A peace transcending
Life's missing piece

Absent in the turmoil
Words have no meaning
Can you hear the confusion
As the jackals keep singing

Thieves in the darkness
Robbers of tranquility
The Spirit calls for action
Amidst pride and futility

Just remember Jesus...

The alpha and omega
Paid the price anyway

Just remember Jesus...

I want a better life...

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Originally Posted by JAPOV
A VNORTH inspiration smile

Just a rough, but appropriate for a lazy Sunday...
https://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=14668592

I want a better life
Escape doesn't interest me
The carnage of the mongers
Provokes hostility

Drunk with wanton passion
That never satisfies
The devil laughs hysterically
As the saints wonder why

Just remember Jesus
Take a moment of time
Consider God's point of view
Calm and clear your mind
Strife is temporary
Heaven is eternity
An everlasting promise
A peace transcending
Life's missing piece

Absent in the turmoil
Words have no meaning
Can you hear the confusion
As the jackals keep singing

Thieves in the darkness
Robbers of tranquility
The Spirit calls for action
Amidst pride and futility

Just remember Jesus...

The alpha and omega
Paid the price anyway

Just remember Jesus...

I want a better life...

JAPOV


I really like what you’ve done here....

you make it personal by speaking in the first person right off the top, so it’s immediately relatable to many

you then lay out some dark stuff but don’t condemn...and the music keeps you from going dark

you then talk of Jesus as a possibility without becoming preachy...nice approach

Steve


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HA!
I blame you, Steve wink

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I like a blues rock foundation for a praise/worship song cuz you don't hear that a lot.

When you un-rough it, consider background singers. See if you can make Solaria sound like Merry Clayton! I'd run Sol through Whitney Houston at LALALS if you need to Gospel her up, a bit. Too bad they don't have Aretha, yet.

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JAPOV wrote

HA!
I blame you, Steve




Blame graciously accepted....lol

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Originally Posted by Michael Zaneski
I like a blues rock foundation for a praise/worship song cuz you don't hear that a lot.

When you un-rough it, consider background singers. See if you can make Solaria sound like Merry Clayton! I'd run Sol through Whitney Houston at LALALS if you need to Gospel her up, a bit. Too bad they don't have Aretha, yet.
That's EXACTLY what I was thinking!
This needs a "chorus"... to punch out "THE CHORUS" lol.
Especially "A peace transcending...", lots of harmony.

I wouldn't mind a bit if YOU did that, Mike wink

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Sounds good Tony , what a show off

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Originally Posted by bennash
Sounds good Tony , what a show off
Lol...
Shoulda' met me 40yrs ago wink

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ha ha ha right


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Originally Posted by JAPOV
Originally Posted by Michael Zaneski
I like a blues rock foundation for a praise/worship song cuz you don't hear that a lot.

When you un-rough it, consider background singers. See if you can make Solaria sound like Merry Clayton! I'd run Sol through Whitney Houston at LALALS if you need to Gospel her up, a bit. Too bad they don't have Aretha, yet.
That's EXACTLY what I was thinking!
This needs a "chorus"... to punch out "THE CHORUS" lol.
Especially "A peace transcending...", lots of harmony.

I wouldn't mind a bit if YOU did that, Mike wink

You send me isolated Sol, either vocal length or song length, I'll run her through apropos LALALS voices and send you back results?


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Isolated with no effects is best.

Be aware, running it through LALALS won't change the performance, just the sound of her voice.

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Joan Jett? grin

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LMAO... laugh

nice....

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Well, no Joan Jett... frown

But, between the two of us, I think my little goth princess is sounding pretty good lol grin

Thanks Mike!

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Thanks, Tony!

Did you redo your vocal? It sounds more up front/less reverb maybe and the phrasing slightly tighter maybe a tad more aggressive (or is that my imagination?) Anyway this mix is very good!

I love what you did with the backup singing--gave them a bit more freedom to be doing different things at the same time--something I had not considered.

Just two things I'm hearing in the backup singing that you could address, if you hear it the way I do, cuz they're small things...but hard to talk about given the format of chat room/forum, lol, but I'll do my best. smile

And disclaimer--it's only cuz I worked on Sol that I'm hearing every nook and cranny of what's going on with her...listeners probably won't...

--at 0:14-16 (and (1:54-56) "u-u-uh oh" --those 8ths sound straighter than they should there. I had to "free hand" the swing time, in that I don't think there's quantizing in Synth V, just "snap" and snap does have 1/6th etc. that can give full-on swing aka triplets, but to get your 60% feel, I had "do not snap" checked, and I was manipulating notes by pushing them left/right with the mouse, then listening...just in case you haven't tried this: highlighting a note with "do not snap" checkmarked lets you push that highlighted note into adjacent notes expanding or contracting those adjacent notes, keeping the legato effect working--that's what I did to get near your 60% swing feel. Upside of that method is it gives a more human sound to the "swing" in that it's never exactly 60% since I was just using "feel" and not science. Downside is sometimes my swing may have been way off, if I wasn't carefully checking everything. I know my first chorus 8ths were a little too straight, for instance.

The uh-u-huh's that Sol sings before "life's missing piece" in the chorus seem to have the right amount of swing, as did the ones near the end, I think.

Very important: If you copied/pasted anything written unsnapped aka "freehand" with SNAP ON----that will CHANGE the timing!!!!. I am guessing maybe that's what you did at 0:14-16 (and (1:54-56). So consider trying that again with "do not snap" selected. That should retain the ballpark 60% swing feel!

I had put a flange on the two Sol's singing all those notes around "peace" (1:12-18 and 3:33-39) cuz I wasn't sold on my work on that part but couldn't improve it either, so I fudged with the flanger, lol, to cover my dislike of what I was hearing without it, and it sounded okay to me with. The first set (especially) still sounds a little off to me. My note choice, I think. You're doing that flamenco change E/F/E there, and I was using (melodic) A minor scale, but something was just off about Sol there, in the 1:12-18, right channel, it's the next to last note she sings at 1:15, feels a half step low, maybe?

--at the end, the last things heard is Sol's singing "missing piece" and I'm not sure if that's a good ending...

If I hear anything else that strikes me as "off" I'll let you know...Sol really does have a Dolly sound up high with a lot of vibrato happening, LOL...don't mind that... smile

Everything really cooks from the chorus/bridge/chorus parts...love the added hand claps, btw...

Oh, and the first time you sing "I want a better life" I kept hearing "I wanna burn alive" LOL...

Carry on...

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"I wanna burn alive" LOL...
Too bad I don't have an edit button... laugh

Swing; I pushed ALL the notes around L/R in both tracks to exaggerate the stereo effect... So, "exact 60% swing" is pretty much out the window wink

"in the 1:12-18, right channel, it's the next to last note she sings at 1:15, feels a half step low, maybe?"
Yeah', I messed around quite a bit with your file there, and the high "Ahhhh" during the clapping break. You're just too much of a perfectionist!

Hey, feel free to post your mix smile


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