Hi Big Jim,

What about all the "self-taught" musicians and lyricists whose only training was and is listening to and appreciating the kind of music and lyric that one wants to write?

Your definition seems to ignore this fact. Many people first listen, then appreciate, and then emulate, and then, after writing and writing and writing, create their own style...and all of this without any, how did you put it, "idea of music theory, rhythm, and melody and how their words can be set to music..", nope. All they did was listen, then appreciate, then emulate, etc. Well on down the line, they might learn that what they were doing intuitively was a "perfect rhyme" or a "consistent meter", etc.

So one can then argue that "a primitive" does know music theory, rhythm, etc,. intuitively, at some gut level, from going through this (listening...emulating) process... smile

If your definition does cover the extreme informality of many lyricists who intuitively write well without being able to "label" what they know, then I'm having a hard time finding much value in your definition of what makes a lyricist. To me it's the same as saying "anyone who wants to write must have some idea about the language they are writing in." Kinda...silently understood, I think. Most people "know" their home language. Much fewer can "articulate" what it is, exactly, that they know, cuz it never really comes up in life that much, just in school.

Mike

Last edited by Michael Zaneski; 06/30/09 06:32 PM.

Fate doesn't hang on a wrong or right choice
Fortune depends on the tone of your voice

-The Divine Comedy (Neil Hannon)
from the song "Songs of Love"
from the album "Casanova" (1996)