Originally Posted by DonnaMarilyn
FD, I don't think lyricists generally feel limited, especially if the composer has provided a leadsheet - which in my opinion is essential. I’ve worked both with and without leadsheets, and without is a nightmare. I don’t do it anymore.

Besides, why would the lyricist be looking to create her/his own rhythm if the melody has already been determined by the composer/vocalist? With a leadsheet (and of course the music), she/he can see exactly which and what kind of notes need to be written to. It's then a matter of finding the right words and creating a consistent/coherent lyric that matches the mood of the music. I feel it's unlikely that a lyricist would be required to write the melody. This is more often the task of the vocalist if not the composer.

There’s plenty a lyricist can do with a track, because often the composer already knows the theme/storyline he/she wants but needs the lyric to be written by a wordsmith, or needs someone to polish whatever he/she has already written. I’ve just finished a project like that, and have co-written a lot of lyrics that already had a melody.

There are many kinds of collaboration, all of which need to be discussed and decided upon from the beginning.

As I said in my previous post, I’m not after instrumentals & melodies. I can create my own melodies for my lyrics (though I don’t always do it wink ). I’d simply like a few simple backing tracks in different genres and time signatures to sing against so that I can more quickly get a feel for the melody as I’m singing. A backing track kind of ‘jump starts’ me. smile Even though that particular track won’t be a part of the resulting song.

I don’t agree that music and lyrics need to created at the same time for a song to be authentic. But as you say, it’s open to debate. wink No doubt others here will chime in. wink

Donna


Thing is Donna, a "backing track" wont support just any melody. The melody and backing track need to be harmonically right, meaning that the chords need to fit the melody

I think writing to a track, and moreso writing to an already established melody is tuff sledding for a lyricist. It becomes a bit like putting a puzzle together.... "hmm let me see, I need three sylables in this line, because the melody is playing a triplet, so let me go with "make a wish"

What happens is the content of the lyric starts to get weaker and weaker as you search for ways to fill the words in.


Last edited by Fdemetrio; 06/15/19 12:17 PM.