Originally Posted by couchgrouch
Regarding Sheila Davis, Pat Pattison etc...I've said it before.
If those people knew how to write great songs, they would. They know how to write books about great songs.

I've also said this before, show me an example of someone's writing before having read Pattison's book, then an example of their writing a year later. There won't be much
of a difference. I recall a bitter exchange with a woman over this issue many years ago. She still can't write.

And neither can you, FD!

Just thought I'd throw that in there.

My words are controversial! They imply not everyone has talent. Let the Senate hearings begin!


Upset are we that you are incapable of writing to a track? Still chasing me around JPF?

I dont think any intelligent human believes that Sheila Davis can make them a great songwriter, or reading her book can. No more than a guitar teacher can make his student Eddie Van Halen, no more than a hitting coach can make somebody Mickey Mantle.

Of course talent matters..... Sheila Davis is just an educator, I bet if you asked her, she wouldn't even consider herself a great songwriter. She taught at UCLA i believe, and just as a spelling teacher cant make somebody win a national spelling bee, a songwriting teacher cant make them a hit songwriter.

It's just a way of helping bring out the talent somebody might have. Sometimes a person needs focus or guidance, maybe they have great capability and dont know how to tap into it. Whats the big frickon deal about a damn book?

And you say people cant write, including myself, to some of the greats of our era, so often, that it means absolutely nothing to anyone. You're like the Delouie who cried wolf, nobody cares who you think you can write.

You insist that music is a competition and want it known that you are the leading contender.

If u want to make it a competition, id be happy to kick your arse in a challenge of writing to a track. Remember the goal is the song, not your lyric on paper.

it'l never happen, you are not able. Keep chirpin

Last edited by Fdemetrio; 06/20/19 10:29 AM.