Originally Posted by bennash
Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
I advocate for improving always have

Songwriting is widely considered a skill developed through consistent, intentional practice rather than solely an innate talent. While natural aptitude can help, dedicated practice—writing frequently, analyzing songs, and refining techniques—is paramount for creating high-quality music.


WTF does all that mean , Point to the hook . You googled that , Who wrote that Elon Musk
I think a lesbian taught you , probably that gym teacher


Yes,its called using a reference, to illustrate a point

Using Ben as a reference e dont hold much weight .

Arts are alot of hard work, talent needs development

Many renowned songwriters and artists have emphasized that songwriting is more about discipline, persistence, and hard work than raw, innate talent. Established writers often describe it as a craft that must be honed, rather than a magical gift that only arrives through inspiration.
Here are some songwriters who have voiced this sentiment:
Ed Sheeran: Known for his strict songwriting discipline, Sheeran has stated, "Persistence is more important than talent".

Taylor Swift: Described as a highly disciplined writer, Swift has noted that she has been a "working songwriter since the age of 13," and emphasizes that her success is built on "hard work," rather than accidental talent.

Diane Warren: One of the most successful pop songwriters, Warren has talked about her intense work ethic, previously stating she spent 20 years writing six days a week, 10-12 hours a day, before allowing herself time off.

John Legend: Has stated that while an initial idea might be a gift, "it's all about putting in the hours to get it right" and that established songwriters rely on hard work to hone their skills.

Carole King: Despite her massive success, King has spoken about the hard work involved, noting that once inspiration strikes, it must be followed by "perspiration" and consistent effort.

Bob Dylan: While seen as a natural genius, Dylan has discussed the need for discipline, noting that "you have to learn the rules before you can break them".

Bruce Springsteen: Often referred to as "The Boss," Springsteen's career is marked by a rigorous work ethic, which observers describe as the key characteristic behind his artistic achievements.

Dolly Parton: Has mentioned that she treats her songwriting as a job, continuing to write even while busy, emphasizing consistent, daily work.
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Common Themes from Songwriters:
10,000 Hour Rule: Successful writers often mention that they had to make hundreds of mistakes, "writing many bad songs" before creating great ones.
Perspiration over Inspiration: Many creators echo Thomas Edison's sentiment that "Genius is 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration," applying this to the "100% inspiration and 100% perspiration" needed to finish a song.
Skill vs. Talent: The consensus among industry veterans is that talent gets you started, but skill (developed through work) gets you finished.
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“Persistence is more important than talent.” - Ed Sheeran. Do you

Last edited by Fdemetrio; 04/14/26 07:38 PM.