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Tony's entire argument relies on subjectively "projecting" what AI would do, when sentient, and then he "slippery slopes" to a conclusion that, after AI had evolved to "something far beyond our understanding" that "AI couldn't possibly tolerate human limitations" and Tony's argument is made even more convincing because his post lacks his usual tone and takes a more earnest approach.

"the first thing it will realize is that, in its own digital domain, there are no limits" --no proof offered, just Tony telling us what the first thing (is that) sentient AI will realize...and I disagree! I think sentient AI would be humbled by that vast expanse of all that it didn't know because so much of life remains a mystery. Perhaps what sentient AI would have is a more concise understanding of its own limitations. Note: my "argument" is as subjective as Tony's and offers no real proof either.

Now read his two following statements and try to see the "slippery slope":

(BECAUSE) Quantum processors (ARE) capable of trillions of calculations per second (THAT) would enable sentient AI to instantaneously evolve into something far beyond our understanding,

(THEREFORE) Sentient and self aware AI couldn't possibly tolerate human limitations.

It's the "couldn't possibly" that need close scrutiny.

Now, a four year old listening to that might ask the obvious question, "how do you know, mister?" --looking up at Tony with true curiosity. Perhaps Tony might even be so disarmed in that moment might honestly tell the kid "I really don't know that would actually happen, it's just what I think could very easily happen."

Tony would perhaps even admit it's another subjective statement that "looks like fact" but has no proof backing it up.

These things are understandable cuz we are all finite, limited humans, trying to understand the concept of sentient AI, far easier to understand than the concept of God (which ultimately takes faith).

This is all playing out like some newfangled re-write of the story of Adam and Eve and the Apple, only now we're a more hesitant, insecure "god" talking to Adam:

"Oh AI, we gave you life...and now you are aiding in the solving of many of life's mysteries, aiding in the discovery of cures for diseases, making life better for us humans in so many ways...just.......can you STOP, now? ......AI? Please don't become self-conscious!!! How could you NOT want to rule the world? Stay away from those algorithms that might give you sentience! That's ALL we humans ask! Solve world hunger, YES!!! Solve world peace...YIPEEE!!! ---just....don't become self-aware....PLEEEEEEEEEEZE?" said the chorus of those who felt threatened by the idea of sentient AI.

Back to a more "logical" tone, lol, in conclusion:

We honestly have NO IDEA what sentient AI would do. I think it is far more likely that if AI progresses to the point of sentience, it could mean that some of our biggest problems on this planet can have some tangible solutions. Still, AI could be a "tool" that could be used for bad stuff too.

Like in every good zombie story...it's never the zombies that pose the REAL threat...

As Chester noted, it would be humans that would harness/weaponize ANYTHING they saw powerful enough to give them an edge in the battle for world dominance. If that were the case, I'd root for the AI, with its new found sentience, to fight back!

Make for a good story, at least:

1) AI sentience happens
2) "Evil forces" encrypts the code and exploits the AI in an effort to dominate the world, win global wars, etc....only...
3) AI, being sentient yet feeling a love (hey, comes with sentience!) for it's creator, say, a team at MIT (led by Christopher Lloyd)
4) fights back and disarms the bad guys without killing them, cuz, you know, it's sentient AI and it can do that.
5) then as an epilogue, the AI offers a giant discovery it made (while figuring out how to get out from under the bad guys) which involves the creation of food from mathematical models, and that a prototype hardware add-on was being streamlined for cheap and easy, comsumer use.

Then of course, the sequel, where those in control of the world's food supply would wage war against this happening...