Originally Posted by Michael Zaneski
Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
So we can simulate Sinatra, all we need to do is put on one of his albums,. and we already have him. No Ai needed. We can even isolate his vocals, and chop up his lines so he's saying new things without him ever having said them. And it's HIM saying it.

But the real point is why are we simulating Sinatra? Cause he's Sinatra. An AI superstar, nobody will care about.

The main thing I see Ai doing is allowing anybody, musical or not, to create a song and use it for their podcast or, their jingles or for even in movies. Background music could be changed drastically.

It's not going to change the one on one exchange between human beings. I play, you listen, you understand me, you like it. You want to see me peform because you see yourself up on stage. THAT is not going anywhere.

But it will probably affect and limit the ways creators of music can make money doing it.

Dom,

Just so we're clear, it's not just Sinatra but several thousands of musical artists going back to Enrico Caruso(#69), to Dylan(#608) and Springsteen (#844), and into modern acts. Anyone you can think of.

Here is one list of about 4000 recording artists:

https://github.com/openai/jukebox/blob/master/jukebox/data/ids/v2_artist_ids.txt

There are a million uses for something like this. I personally wrote several songs throughout my life with real recording artists in mind. Now I can actually have a faux version of them actually singing those songs. C'mon, Dom...you've never wrote a song with Springsteen in mind as the singer?

I have created song "gifts" that sing directly to certain friends using AI versions of their most beloved recording artist's vocals, and in the sung lyrics calling my friends by their names, saying personal things about them only they would know...

I am currently creating an "opera" using dozens of different OpenAI Jukebox singers. It is the most enjoyable work I have ever done. It uses an actual movie in the public domain, and I am swapping out all the original audio with audio I am creating, partially with OpenAI Jukebox, lip syncing the vocals I am creating to where there was spoken dialogue originally.

Podcasts and jingles and background music, yes. But consider that maybe, if you chose to go down the rabbithole and look more closely, you might find there's a far greater potential for such an AI driven software...

Mike

No, but i have been accused of copying Springsteen lol, it was all subconcious, i even had a indie record label mock me for it (I was using sax on demos, where nobody at the time cared about, it was the synth age and huge sounding snare age.) I dont try to write what he wrote about any more.

Anyway, you seem to think im against AI, or that i dont believe in it. I havent really given it much thought tbh, im sure there is and will be tons of great uses for it.

Remember, i didnt start the thread, my responses were to those worrying about where human music will go.

Ai may even one day to be able to write emotional songs that hit us in the heart, and people turn to it for comfort or for whatever reason.

My one and only point was, it's not going to eliminate humans playing music. You will still be able to go on youtube, or whatever incarnation is around at the time, and see a 9 year old Piano prodigy nailing Mozart Requiems, or Oscar Petersons Jazz improvs, or somebody playing a song they wrote and singing it on acoustic on youtube.

That's not going anywhere. Agreed? And if it does it will be a long time, we wont be around.

Good to see u Mike. Ive been working on music, hope you are as well.

Last edited by Fdemetrio; 02/22/23 05:06 PM.