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I think it's a chemistry thing. I liked Hillary, and found Trump to be a cad, obnoxious, a bully, arrogant, and rude.

John,
The Constitution was Ratified in 1789. Surely you don't thing those few words gives the Federal Government the authority to put Social Spending Programs in place. All Social Spending Programs belong in the States where they are Constitutional. Now why do I say that? I can give you about 20 Trillion Reasons of which you will ignore and pass the Buck. You can put all the *hit in the game you want to, but we still have a slew of problems as well as the nearly 20 Trillion Dollar Federal Debt of which the people will pay for, one way or the other.
Excuse me John. How can you spend wisely when jobs are scarce and the obligations are unsurmountable. The Liberal's got us into this mess and now they are nowhere to be found. The National Debt is growing at about 2.8 Billion Dollars a day.

Tax laws are often created to encourage people to behave in a certain way. Cities and states often waive certain taxes to encourage a company to set up a facility in their locale rather than somewhere else, in order to provide jobs and strengthen their economy. Income tax deductions are there for a reason too. Paying no tax legally is a goal many strive towards. But in doing so, they are behaving the way the creator of the tax law wanted them to. Whether the law makes sense or not is another issue.

They have been whining about the debt since I was a child, and here I am 65, and Ive yet to pay for it, has anyone?

so, when is this big payment day going to arive?

Methinks they just roll it over until there
is hyperinflation.

the payment will come when the dollar collapses.

It will be hell, but after a brief period of chaos,
the resilient marketplace will sort itself out again,
and start all over.

But, the danger is in the chaos, demagogues lick
their chops and try to take advantage of it, and seize power.

that's what bothers me about Trump. He fits the description.

I don't agree with libertarians on many things, but insofar
as they believe the government should stay out of the business
of influencing the marketplace through tax policy, I agree.

Businesses don't invest when governments are always changing the rules, so government should just quit ruling via taxation, keep tax policy rock steady.

So far, the polls that count ( not the online polls, they
are not scientific ) show Hillary smashing Trump, it's a shut out. You should have watched it, and it would be plain to see
why Trump is not going to be president. Trump was put in a situation he had never been in before, and foolishly believed
he could wing it, like he's been winging it up to now.

Before an audience of 84 million, he blew it.

Thing is, the next two debates no where near that
many will be watching, and so many millions tuned
it so they could make up their mind, and they did,
and many wont bother with the subsequent debates.

It's too late.

Tommorrow, Newsweek is coming out with an article
that asserts Trump did business in Cuba during the
sanctions, it was illegal. He did this at the same
time he was giving press conference lecturing on his
support for the sanctions, that any business being
done with Cuba would be money not going to Cubans,
but Castro, yet one of his companies was secretly
doing business with Cuba.

On November 28, Trump has to appear in a San Diego
Federal Court in a 5000 member class action suit
to answer to charges under RICO racketeering statutes.

You think Hillary has baggage? Compared to Trump
she's mother Teresa. Trump's skeletons are coming
out of the closet.

Trump has no humanity, not a drop of humility.
Trump's achilles heal is that he can't hide it.

He seems to think that his being a total dick
is equal to "not being politically correct".

No, calling a physically disabled person a special needs person
is politically correct, but mocking him on TV is
being a total dickhead.

Trump is too stupid to know the difference, but reasonable,
sensible people know the difference, and more importantly,
they know the importance of electing a leader who knows the difference.

I think Americans are bright enough to sense it, and they will choose the one on the higher road, if there is a clear cut choice, and in this election, it's glaring like a neon sign.

The law and order candidate breaking federal law? How much do you think the perp walk photographs are gonna be worth? $100,000 I bet.

Didn't newsweek just claim the Bush administration deleted 20 million emails. They are on a roll lately.