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Just curious. From your own experience with your own voice, which worked better. Steve Holt INNER MUSIC Music Creation & Production http://www.inner-music.com
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I can't say I've used the Beta58 (or Beta57) on my own voice (just the SM series), but there are definite differences from a sound guy's perspective. The Beta series is hypercardioid instead of cardioid, which means three things: 1. There is a much bigger bass boost when used extremely close (within a couple of inches). 2. There is a narrower range of left-to-right in which they pick up sounds without changing the tone or fading in and out because of that distance. 3. They are more resistive to feedback when monitors are placed a little to the side instead of directly behind the mic stand. They are definitely more feedback resistive to the house system. I tried a Beta58 on a guy who had been using an SM58 for years and he was kind of weirded out by all the bass boost since he was very familiar with using the proximity effect on certain phrases and sounds. I think you could get used to either. The Beta series is definitely a higher-quality line, but both work very well. ------------------ Larry www.audibleresponse.com [This message has been edited by Lwilliam (edited 05-08-2003).]
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I really like the Beta's cause we almost never have to worry about feedback on the vocal mics. Just get the monitors or the house sound off axis.
In addition to using them for our vocals, I've also used them in a church situation where you get inexperienced folks with major stage fright doing readings not much louder than a whisper - and have been able to kick the gain up high so that they could be heard without risking the feedback.
Since I typically set vocal mics with a low cut engaged (to eliminate handling noise and stage rumble) and eq the low end to flat or slight reduction - I haven't found the inherent bass proximity boost to be a problem.
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I think Beta 58s are great. I've used both mics, but if you've got a choice, go for the Beta!
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I went and tried both mics on my voice in a music shop and opted for the Beta. Worked better on my voice. BTW are you saying that the proximity effect was dramatically different on the two mics? I didn't find that. There were differences, but not dramatic. Steve Holt INNER MUSIC Music Creation & Production http://www.inner-music.com
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Heya! It depends on what you are using the mic for. Betas (based on my personal experience, YMMV)are better as live mics for vocals than they are for recording. The SMs are better all around mics, for both recording AND live playing. The best way to figure out which is which, of course, is to test them yourself. Personal preference wins out every time. ------------------ "...The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side..." ~ Hunter S. Thompson Stuff and Nonsense
"...The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side..." ~ Hunter S. Thompson Stuff and Nonsense
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the beta 58 is definitely better than the 58, In my experience, for use on stage it doesn't make much difference, but the beta 58 can even be used in a studio with good results (although of course it is not a high-end mic) Matt ------------------ CSP Audio Solving Recording Problems
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