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This guy is a former Military Intelligence officer. I usually watch his channel because he talks Military technology. But he decided to do a little math on the strange election results in the 5 states which halted counting for 3+ days and who also would not allow any observers to the process /8a whole additional problem obviously).
Youtube has banned sharing this link on all social media, just like they seem to be blocking some people from coming here.
Here's the link, let me know if it works. I couldn't get the embed code:
For the record, the media has no role in the Presidential race no matter how much the New York Times Twitter thinks so. The courts and the recounts are all that matter. I think it is a longshot that anything happens, but if a serious look at corruption claims and transparency or lack thereof doesn't happen, then no one on any side can ever trust the elections again.
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For the record, the media has no role in the Presidential race no matter how much the New York Times Twitter thinks so. The courts and the recounts are all that matter. I think it is a longshot that anything happens, but if a serious look at corruption claims and transparency or lack thereof doesn't happen, then no one on any side can ever trust the elections again.
I'm not sure that this goes away soon Brian. For many reasons. Such as the senate races in GA that are going to a runoff because no one topped 50 percent. It is a real possibility that the repubs have already Won and with the senate in the balance I suspect that they will start screaming and be hard to brush off. That will contribute to the effort to get a look at all of it.
... but if a serious look at corruption claims and transparency or lack thereof doesn't happen, ...
Corruption "claims" aren't worth a [explicative deleted]. If the trump crime family has evidence of corruption it is time to put up or shut up. The government and the people shouldn't be funding their little fantasy land expedition.
it didnt look like nonsense to me. Unless he forged the google stats and misrepresented the number of voters. I doubt that he did.
These are the sort of broad brush strokes that will be presented to courts and then detailed.
And looking at the figures for California and Florida which were reasonably in line with what a reasonable person would expect, the others do look very strange. Get used to the idea that there may be a reality that you just dont want to accept.
... but if a serious look at corruption claims and transparency or lack thereof doesn't happen, ...
Corruption "claims" aren't worth a [explicative deleted]. If the trump crime family has evidence of corruption it is time to put up or shut up. The government and the people shouldn't be funding their little fantasy land expedition.
Frustration? To a degree I understand and am sympathetic..
After 3 years of the Russia hoax led to nothing but more smoke and fog and accusations. After poor Bret Kav was maliciously maligned, by an addled woman, debased politicians and witnesses that admitted to lying afterwards. After Trump was impeached for rightfully questioning Biden's family cash harvesting in eastern Europe and China.
I do fully understand how annoying and frustrating all this can be. Buckle up. The pilot is expecting extreme turbulence.
... but if a serious look at corruption claims and transparency or lack thereof doesn't happen, ...
Corruption "claims" aren't worth a [explicative deleted]. If the trump crime family has evidence of corruption it is time to put up or shut up. The government and the people shouldn't be funding their little fantasy land expedition.
Kevin
Exactly what example of corruption is Trump's family guilty. Please be specific in two sentences or less. And..."because I hate them" is not an example.
There is a recurrent rumor that there is a state....Penn maybe...where there are 450,000 ballots where only Biden is checked with no down ballot races checked.
Questions come to mind....?
If that is true, then 450000 people for whatever reasons, apparently decided only to vote for Biden and not to bother with anyone else? Or was it a couple of hundred democrats in a room for days, checking Biden and then throwing ballots on a stack to be held for a post election day surge?
And the dems are all going to say that this is repub disinformation....BUTT is it?
Martin, you asked me about accepting Democrat fraud if it was proven and I said unequivacally yes, and that if guilty, perpetrators should face the full extent of the law
My turn
If nothing is found, or the courts do not support the "case", will you advocate for some penalty due to the irreperable damage caused by the Republicans? The world has its eyes on the US. Some countries are laughing at Trump, some enemies are playing it all up and saying that the US has no longer any moral ground to stand on when they attemtp to export\support democracy around the world. Should that be looked at?
How about a countersuit based on frivolous grounds or vexatious behaviour? How about lying in a deposition?
And how do you feel about Barr chiming in. He did not have to write "the memo" and it is widely seen as more Barr "bootlicking" as it is already the duty of federal prosecutors to investigate such corruption. He has clearly stoked the fire and come down on the side of Trump.
If writing ever becomes work I think I'm going to have to stop
No. There was no penalty for chasing the Russia hoax for three years and coming up with nothing but more smokey allegations. There was no penalty for assassinating Brett Kavs character with no proof beyond the 35 year old recollections of an addled woman. There was no penalty for impeaching a president for rightfully looking into the cash harvesting of a former VP and his drug addict offspring in massively corrupt countries.. So no, no penalties...it has become just part of the game to chase things and then move on to the next. There are no penalties.
Thought we were done with this? Does that mean that you convinced yourself that I was sitting in abeyance until someone came to inform me that there was nothing to this and Biden was clear? No, I am not. The situation is evolving.
What I did not realize until last night was that SCOTUS did not truly reject Trump's suit alleging that PENN courts had overstepped their bounds. It locked in a tie as Barrett recused herself. Alito made it public that PENN's SC may have overstepped constitutional bounds. Subsequently he ordered the ballots in question set aside pending the case possibly coming back to SCOTUS as Barrett gets up to speed.. That's important. The dems spun it as a rejection.
I wrote on this forum that I did not think Trump would win. His loss would not render me unable to get out of bed and going down to an animal shelter adopting 5 cats in order to sooth my hopelessly torn soul. But as things come out such as the aforementioned...I am beginning to wonder if it is truly possible that someones sat in a room and checked Biden on thousands of paper ballots and then set them up to drop when needed.
...I am beginning to wonder if it is truly possible that someones sat in a room and checked Biden on thousands of paper ballots and then set them up to drop when needed.
I WANT THAT UNEQUIVOCALLY DISPROVEN.
And that is why conspiracy theories can never really be defeated. It is normally impossible to prove that something like that didn't happen. You can maybe prove that it happened, but never disprove it. That is why conspiracy theories hold such power over weak minded individuals as well as those who should be smart enough to know better.
...I am beginning to wonder if it is truly possible that someones sat in a room and checked Biden on thousands of paper ballots and then set them up to drop when needed.
I WANT THAT UNEQUIVOCALLY DISPROVEN.
And that is why conspiracy theories can never really be defeated. It is normally impossible to prove that something like that didn't happen. You can maybe prove that it happened, but never disprove it. That is why conspiracy theories hold such power over weak minded individuals as well as those who should be smart enough to know better.
Kevin
Conspiracy theories? Subscribed to by deluded fools with weak minds? Not in this case Kevin. That is smoke. There are ballots. There was a vote count. It call all be re-examined. It needs to be.
Something that is a certainty...If someone goes to Philadelphia or Atlanta looking for brazen political corruption and accompanying incredulous stupidity...their chances of finding it are the same as someone going to the Atlantic ocean looking for water.
The slow process in counting votes in the states this guy has in his sights is because they were prevented from even preparing to count before the day of the election. There is absolutely nothing strange about their speed in comparison to other states that he mentions. They don't have a "strange problem:" they have an entirely predictable problem. In the case of Pennsylvania it was by design, precisely so that the President could make these specious arguments if he lost. That is not an opinion. It's easily verifiable or, if you were paying attention in the days leading up to the election, you don't even need to verify it again.
By the way, California took a long time to count its votes too. It's just that nobody cared. That's why you see Biden's lead in the popular vote gradually increasing. As I write this, Pennsylvania has actually counted a larger percentage of its votes than Ohio, Alaska, DC, California, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Mississippi, New Jersey, New York, Oregon, Vermont and Washington. It has counted the same percentage as Texas, Connecticut, Iowa, Kentucky and North Carolina. Why doesn't this guy mention that.
So the number of people voting went up? Is this really surprising given the passions aroused in the choice facing the country?
I'm not at all surprised by the large increase in voter turnout in Georgia. Passions there were inflamed by what many saw as rigged elections in 2018 that deprived Stacey Abrams of the Governorship. This was particularly true of black voters, whose participation surged.
This guy makes his argument sound convincing by his selection of "control" states. I checked my home state of North Carolina. The turnout increased from 69% of registered voters in the 2016 election to 75.6% in the 2020 election. In Pennsylvania the turnout increased from 70.1% to approximately 74%. This is actually lower than in NC, which the Republicans are on course to win. Of course, folks like this guy will argue that an increase in voter registration, which in PA went from 8.7 to about 9 million is all dead guys and Mexicans, but even using the old 2016 voter registration figures, the increase would be to 76.7%, not out of line with NC. I suppose I could do this with other states too, but debunking this BS is exhausting and seemingly never-ending. I offer this as a public service - you're welcome
In summary: 1. Turnout went up. Not surprising when you consider the passions on both sides. 2. It went up very substantially in many states. 3. If you select your "controls" carefully, you can "prove" just about anything. 4. Delays in vote counting are entirely explainable. 5. Where mail-in ballots were counted last, the Republicans had a large lead before they were counted, as predicted before the election. 6. Where mail-in ballots were counted first, early results skewed misleadingly toward Democrats, e.g. Ohio. Again, this was predicted before the election. 7. Don't believe everything you see in a video. 8. Read this book. It's as entertaining as it is informative. https://www.amazon.com/How-Lie-Statistics-Darrell-Huff/dp/0393310728#ace-7448806443
This situation is so strange that I am having to sort through everything that I think to come up with a few actual facts.
Fact 01 - There was a presidential election and some people say that it was entirely valid while some say it was corrupted and stolen. Fact 02 - I am privy to nothing as a prime participant or an eye witness. I only know what I read and all I can see is a landscape of propaganda upon which to base an opinion. Fact 03 - Gavin Sinclair is privy to nothing as a prime participant or an eye witness. Gavin Sinclair is looking at the same landscape to confirm a different bias than mine. ASSUMPTION - Ascertaining and verifying what ACTUALLY HAPPENED in this election will be messy and will require multiple parties who are prime participants and eye witnesses to salient facts. FACT 04 - I am eagerly waiting to see that process come together.
PS I scanned your treatise and saw nothing that I regarded as an incontrovertible fact... just as an exercise in tit for tat poking holes in Brian's post.
John V I dont care what the Dutch do. Never been there. Dont plan to go.
The future of the American democratic experiment is at great risk right now. If the state republican state legislatures in the battleground state ignore the will of the people and nominate a slate of trump electors then we have slid into fascism and autocracy. I don't know how you can spin it any other way. There will not be "enough" fraud uncovered to swing the election results. Lots a people scream about "socialism" but fascism seems to be OK.
Marty, I'm a bit disappointed. What I wrote is chock full of incontrovertible facts. I spent a lot of time assembling them but needn't have bothered, it seems. Nobody can be an eye witness to every single thing that happens on the planet. Real things happen when you are not actually there. I didn't personally witness the Declaration of Independence, D Day or the Holocaust, but I'm sure they happened.
I am not poking holes in Brian's post. I am driving a truck through this guy's YouTube video, which uses deceptive techniques that I have learned to recognize over the years.
By the way, the Netherlands is actually a very nice place to visit, although their beer is terrible.
In summary: 1. Turnout went up. Not surprising when you consider the passions on both sides. 2. It went up very substantially in many states. 3. If you select your "controls" carefully, you can "prove" just about anything. 4. Delays in vote counting are entirely explainable. 5. Where mail-in ballots were counted last, the Republicans had a large lead before they were counted, as predicted before the election. 6. Where mail-in ballots were counted first, early results skewed misleadingly toward Democrats, e.g. Ohio. Again, this was predicted before the election. 7. Don't believe everything you see in a video. 8. Read this book. It's as entertaining as it is informative. https://www.amazon.com/How-Lie-Statistics-Darrell-Huff/dp/0393310728#ace-7448806443
#1 Yes...turn out went up. That is incontrovertible. It is a point that he made about not only the turn out but the population in every state. #2 It went up substantially....His point is that maybe it didn't actually. #3 is just the vapors. Proves nothing except for every yes or no...there is a maybe. Dont like Maybe. Perhaps you would like perhaps. #4 is yet to be determined #5 so you say #6 So you say #7 I dont #8 No thanks.
Vapors. Nothing solid there.
I bring you back to my fact. You werent an eye witness. You dont really know. You hate Trump and want him gone. You confirm your bias from biased sources because that is all that is going to reach you or me.
Most importantly...Millions of people like me want to see someone scrutinize the hell out of this. If Trump lost fair and square we want him gone. If Biden won through cheating we want him gone. Give up on talking us out of even taking a look. In fact that is having the reverse effect.
Join us in a search for the truth. If you want Biden to enter the presidency without a serious cloud over him...then help in the effort to confirm what is true and what is not.
Martin, that you consult your own biased sources is clear here. Gavin actually did list some solid facts that you repudiate.
Now I'm not going to knot my knickers up going point for point with you. I know your bottom line is clarification.
But simply saying that the majority of Gavin's post is simply vapour does not invalidate them. Simply saying he was not there does not invalidate reports based on eye witness accounts and reported on. That "millions want to see someone scrutinize the hell out of this" is also out of bounds. Using your own logic, have you talked to these millions of people? I've only seen Trump and his sycophants rage on without proof...and yes, demonstrations by Reps who want to have all votes counted or have counting stop...depending on where they are protesting. But where do you think they got the idea? It was not spontaneous, it was not about what they saw. It was all about what Trump said all along about voter fraud and repeated when he firct claimed victory early Wednesday morning and then began to walk back on the basis of the Dems stealing the election.
Oh and Gavin...I agree that German beer is mostly better. Big fan of Radeberger & Beck's. The Netherlands has some Trappist beers that are marvellous, but Heineken, although it is a worldwide brand and one of the big three world breweries is a rare find in my place. Actually getting into non alcoholic beer. Clausthaler is a nice one
If writing ever becomes work I think I'm going to have to stop
Marty was infallable, when I challenges some of his obviously distorted and biased views, I was the bad guy, now it's enjoyable witnessing exoneration. I'm a revolutionary, saw this long before anyone else. Dismissed for not agreeing..
What have we learned...nobody who voted for Biden, or suported Biden thinks the election was a cheat, nobody who voted for Trump, at least here in this forum, thinks it wasn't .
A shocker for sure. If the situation was completely reversed, youD have reversed reactions .
My be labored point.... partisanism is the worst thing there is for our country
Martin, that you consult your own biased sources is clear here. Gavin actually did list some solid facts that you repudiate.
Now I'm not going to knot my knickers up going point for point with you. I know your bottom line is clarification.
But simply saying that the majority of Gavin's post is simply vapour does not invalidate them. Simply saying he was not there does not invalidate reports based on eye witness accounts and reported on. That "millions want to see someone scrutinize the hell out of this" is also out of bounds. Using your own logic, have you talked to these millions of people? I've only seen Trump and his sycophants rage on without proof...and yes, demonstrations by Reps who want to have all votes counted or have counting stop...depending on where they are protesting. But where do you think they got the idea? It was not spontaneous, it was not about what they saw. It was all about what Trump said all along about voter fraud and repeated when he firct claimed victory early Wednesday morning and then began to walk back on the basis of the Dems stealing the election.
Oh and Gavin...I agree that German beer is mostly better. Big fan of Radeberger & Beck's. The Netherlands has some Trappist beers that are marvellous, but Heineken, although it is a worldwide brand and one of the big three world breweries is a rare find in my place. Actually getting into non alcoholic beer. Clausthaler is a nice one
John
You and Gavin have your "eyewitnesses." The repubs have theirs. It's all vapor right now. It's a propaganda war at this point. I know that all sources including mine are biased and I made that point to Gavin. He and you dont seem to recognize the fallibility of your sources.
I'm hoping against hope that the courts set a course that will get some sober people in their to see what is or is not there. And now your asking me if I have talked to millions of people in retort. That's a vaporous retort. Do you not agree?
Gavin had no solid points because he doesnt know. Neither do I. Please read that and remember it, when you counter my beliefs. I'm not sure what to believe.
But the prospect that I was alive when political machines stole a presidential election is so burning that I and many people are not about to give you and Gavin the "old okie doke" when you tell us all is well. There is a credible way to connect the dots from where I sit that looks real bad and should be cleared up.
Marty was infallable, when I challenges some of his obviously distorted and biased views, I was the bad guy, now it's enjoyable witnessing exoneration. I'm a revolutionary, saw this long before anyone else. Dismissed for not agreeing..
What have we learned...nobody who voted for Biden, or suported Biden thinks the election was a cheat, nobody who voted for Trump, at least here in this forum, thinks it wasn't .
A shocker for sure. If the situation was completely reversed, youD have reversed reactions .
My be labored point.... partisanism is the worst thing there is for our country
Martin, my "vaporous retort" was simply countering your assertion that millions of people want this heavily scrutinized....to me you were trying to argue that you could only rely on what you saw and heard directly...then you stepped into those millions of shoes.
But I agree. The atmosphere of distrust is toxic. We can point blame but today is simply a culmination of years of division.
If writing ever becomes work I think I'm going to have to stop
Martin, my "vaporous retort" was simply countering your assertion that millions of people want this heavily scrutinized....to me you were trying to argue that you could only rely on what you saw and heard directly...then you stepped into those millions of shoes.
But I agree. The atmosphere of distrust is toxic. We can point blame but today is simply a culmination of years of division.
John, Let me help you.
Trump has an approval of 95% with republicans. A large portion of them are avid about him, 70+ million people voted for Trump. I don't need to interview millions of people personally to arrive at the conclusion.
You and Gavin and Kevin need to tighten up a little bit. I think Trump derangement syndrome makes it hard for you all to see things clearly. But I like you and I am always willing to help as I can.
He likes you John, so now see it his way, cause your thoughts are little scattered butterflies, he has set you straight, he has rescued you from your feeble thoughts, but he might not like you soon..... Just keep it up....
Ahhh I feel guilty, what entertainment for a nominal price....
But I can also extrapolate my conclusion of a fair election from what I have seen and read.
I can also draw conclusions from Trump's 2016 behaviour and search for those millions of illegal votes that never materialized.... and his continual battering of the voter fraud theme
I can also draw conclusions from Republican poll watchers and officials in Penna and Georgia who say the vote was fair
I can also draw conclusions from the spineless behaviour of Trump sycophants who call the elections fraudulent
I am also aware of "the other side" as I just had to tune into the likes of Hannity and Carlson...and who can forget Kayleigh McEnany's press conference where she accused the Democrats directly of massive voter fraud....and we saw almost all networks (except Fox and CNN) cut away to tell America she was lying
None of this is based on TDS. They are extrapolations based on facts
In the end, we will see what transpires.
And FD, no need to stoke the fire here. Martin and I can disagree and still respect eachother
If writing ever becomes work I think I'm going to have to stop
He likes you John, so now see it his way, cause your thoughts are little scattered butterflies, he has set you straight, he has rescued you from your feeble thoughts, but he might not like you soon..... Just keep it up....
Ahhh I feel guilty, what entertainment for a nominal price....
There is a syndrome that I have noticed throughout my life. It is the "lesser motives sleuth" syndrome. It is the person who quickly recognizes, uncovers and reveals the ulterior and lesser motives of others...Because...that person possesses all of those motives and knows them well.
An obsessive passtime of the LESSER MOTIVES SLEUTH is to create dissension.
Yes I'm a bad person. I hate dogs, kids, Jesus......
As far as I know the issue has been the same, nobody writes songs, nobody talks sports, nobody talks stocks , nobody talks careers, weather ,
The only thing they talk about is corona, and the election, that has been 90% of the talk here, so how am I arguing for the sake of arguing, regardless of issues?
FD ...I look forward to the day you understand what the word sycophant means.
When you do understand, then you can try and make the argument that Martin is obedient and attentive to Trump to a servile degree, and then also tell us what he has to gain by being so
In the meantime, I will label Giuliani, his sons, Lindsay Graham, Bill Barr, and a lot of Republican OFFICIALS who dare not cross Trump because of how he might ^&&*^(&* with them as sycophants.
Beware though that you should act fast because when you do catch up, everything may just be over
If writing ever becomes work I think I'm going to have to stop
Because what Marty was saying was exactly what you described of them "others " "I can also draw conclusions from the spineless behaviour of Trump sycophants who call the elections fraudulent"
The same logic applies to the whole sentence , not just you trying yet failing to demean me.
Perhaps these practices are why I and others get annoyed and resort to personal insults? Because whether you realize it or not, people take being talked down to as an insult .
And its clear with your attempt to make me feel unequal to your genius, that you do talk down to people, and is it cause your an accountant ?
In summary: 1. Turnout went up. Not surprising when you consider the passions on both sides. 2. It went up very substantially in many states. 3. If you select your "controls" carefully, you can "prove" just about anything. 4. Delays in vote counting are entirely explainable. 5. Where mail-in ballots were counted last, the Republicans had a large lead before they were counted, as predicted before the election. 6. Where mail-in ballots were counted first, early results skewed misleadingly toward Democrats, e.g. Ohio. Again, this was predicted before the election. 7. Don't believe everything you see in a video. 8. Read this book. It's as entertaining as it is informative. https://www.amazon.com/How-Lie-Statistics-Darrell-Huff/dp/0393310728#ace-7448806443
#1 Yes...turn out went up. That is incontrovertible. It is a point that he made about not only the turn out but the population in every state. #2 It went up substantially....His point is that maybe it didn't actually. #3 is just the vapors. Proves nothing except for every yes or no...there is a maybe. Dont like Maybe. Perhaps you would like perhaps. #4 is yet to be determined #5 so you say #6 So you say #7 I dont #8 No thanks.
Vapors. Nothing solid there.
I bring you back to my fact. You werent an eye witness. You dont really know. You hate Trump and want him gone. You confirm your bias from biased sources because that is all that is going to reach you or me.
Most importantly...Millions of people like me want to see someone scrutinize the hell out of this. If Trump lost fair and square we want him gone. If Biden won through cheating we want him gone. Give up on talking us out of even taking a look. In fact that is having the reverse effect.
Join us in a search for the truth. If you want Biden to enter the presidency without a serious cloud over him...then help in the effort to confirm what is true and what is not.
1. OK 2. So everyone responsible for organizing elections in every state, no matter which candidate they went for, is a liar and a cheat.I suppose I shouldn't be surprised by this, given that Republican Senate candidates in Georgia are calling for the resignation of the Secretary of State, a Republican, because the vote didn't go exactly as they wanted it to. 3. Not just the vapors. If you select your controls on the basis of what you want to prove, you can prove it. I chose NC because it's my state and proved that his "suspicious" turnout growth in PA happened there too, where Republicans won across the board. Why is this so hard to understand? Take your own state of Texas, which Trump won. Turnout increased by 9%, way more than in Pennsylvania. This guy is lying by means of selective statistics. Since I spent all that time crunching the numbers that you dismissed as the vapors, I found this link which might help you understand. https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/...507-2616bad5-1516-4dfe-8ea6-fd86a5d5738d 4. This is not still to be determined. In certain states obstacles were placed in the way of counting mail in ballots promptly. In states where this did not occur, e.g. Ohio, these ballots were counted more promptly and indeed created an impression of a Democratic lead which later evaporated. I explained all that. It's fact. Not my biased fact, just fact. 5.Not "so you say," fact, easily verified. Not everything is just what one person says against what another person says. Facts do exist. 6. See 5. 7. So you say 8. You should. It's a great little book, written in 1954. It was assigned reading in my statistics class at business school.
I don't "confirm my bias from biased sources because that is all that is going to reach you or me." That's a lazy way to avoid engaging with the facts. Tell me one biased source that I used. I went to the raw unfiltered figures for voter turnout. It made for some pretty dry reading, but the sources were not biased. I did this to prove that this video is deceptive. It's whole argument is based on the premise that the voter turnout increase in certain states was suspiciously high compared to others. This is demonstrably false. If you think I failed to do this, point out where my facts are wrong or my methodology is flawed. What I did is very simple and straightforward.
I know I'm fighting a losing battle, but the erosion of the very concept of objective fact by those who benefit from the resultant confusion is something I care very deeply about. So, picking up on John's Dutch reference, I stand with my finger in the dike holding back the BS, while next to me someone with a wrecking ball knocks huge holes in it and we are all drowned by the raw sewage of which this video is a particularly pungent example.
Martin, that you consult your own biased sources is clear here. Gavin actually did list some solid facts that you repudiate.
Now I'm not going to knot my knickers up going point for point with you. I know your bottom line is clarification.
But simply saying that the majority of Gavin's post is simply vapour does not invalidate them. Simply saying he was not there does not invalidate reports based on eye witness accounts and reported on. That "millions want to see someone scrutinize the hell out of this" is also out of bounds. Using your own logic, have you talked to these millions of people? I've only seen Trump and his sycophants rage on without proof...and yes, demonstrations by Reps who want to have all votes counted or have counting stop...depending on where they are protesting. But where do you think they got the idea? It was not spontaneous, it was not about what they saw. It was all about what Trump said all along about voter fraud and repeated when he firct claimed victory early Wednesday morning and then began to walk back on the basis of the Dems stealing the election.
Oh and Gavin...I agree that German beer is mostly better. Big fan of Radeberger & Beck's. The Netherlands has some Trappist beers that are marvellous, but Heineken, although it is a worldwide brand and one of the big three world breweries is a rare find in my place. Actually getting into non alcoholic beer. Clausthaler is a nice one
Yeah, German beer is good, but pretty much all the same because of the purity laws. I was in the Netherlands for work about once a week for many years, but would try to make it over the border to Belgium before it was time for a beer
Since the MSM keeps blocking Republican press conferences showing evidence in the US it obviously isn't going to show up in Canada at all. Even Fox won't show them and cut the feed openly as she was about to provide the proof. This is why Fox has dropped to more than double CNN and MSNBC combined to a distant third ever since.
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You say the guy cherry picked CA and FLA and then you cherry pick TX to prove him wrong. To which he could say that's an anomaly or exception. Trump Derangement Syndrome is causing you to move from the vapors to a fog. In all of your explain-aways, there is nothing that an observer interested in the hard truth can "hang their hat on." Please be careful not to develop Fd's malady of "beating a comatose horse." There is no hope for him but you dont have to suffer the same fate.
My Viewpoint The focuses are the battleground states. Specifically PA and GA Specifically democrat machines in the major urban areas such as ATL and PHL and PITT
The youtube guy put up some broad strokes that look suspicious to a reasonable mind. Not conclusive but worth a look Business Insider published this article about the mysterious appearance of 14000 votes after election day.
The official dem talking point is that 14k votes does not change the margin of 45k votes.
BUT 14,000 VOTES IS 1/3 OF THE MARGIN!!!! AND IF THEY EXIST, IT IS REASONABLE TO SUSPECT THAT ONCE ACCESS IS GAINED TO THE DEN OF THIEVES, OTHER STOLEN GOODS WILL BE FOUND. AT THE LEAST 14K VOTES INDICATES SOME SERIOUS PROBLEMS WITH PA ELECTIONS THAT SHOULD RECEIVE NATIONAL ATTENTION.
I do not know what to believe. But I am still waiting to see something from somewhere that I can truly believe.
Since the MSM keeps blocking Republican press conferences showing evidence in the US it obviously isn't going to show up in Canada at all. Even Fox won't show them and cut the feed openly as she was about to provide the proof. This is why Fox has dropped to more than double CNN and MSNBC combined to a distant third ever since.
Evidence? Mostly baseless claims of widespread fraud. When Trump goes to court and displays the "evidence" I will take a look at it. Most of the fraud cases so far are small and don't come anywhere near the amount needed to overturn anything.
Where is the "red line" where republicans will tell trump "enough is enough". I don't think there is one. So we slide into fascism and totalitarianism. If the state legislatures overturn the will of the people, constitutional America that we all know and depend on is dead. Except Expect massive riots, military action on the citizens of the USA and maybe even worse.
We all warned this would happen because trump is, well, trump and he wants to be president-for-life.
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