Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Originally Posted by Brian Austin Whitney
I stopped reading your straw man argument when you put it into a college setting. Why? Obvious.

So why do you suppose some single you out? You have much the same views as him, so it isn't political. You both post music. It appears to be something else. Perhaps you should figure that out. Could it be they honestly do not like your music? Did you ever consider it? You do post it publicly knowing people are encourage to comment.

Brian


At the bottom of this is an offer and a promise. (in blue)



Nothing is obvious about your point of view Brian. Except that it defies simplistic reasoning and common sense.

What I laid out for you with the professor comparison is basic, simplistic common sense, that the majority of people in the world are aware of. It's essentially inarguable unless there is something wrong with your thinking. There is something wrong with your thinking and it is destroying participation in your own website.

As for open discussions about politics and religion under the banner of free speech...there is no societally or constitutionally relevant discussion going on here. Never has been. It is just odd-balls arguments that distract from the reason that most people are here. Songwriting.

I couldn't care less who likes or dislikes my music. It is what it is. It is not what it is not. It's a hobby, not a profession.
The problem is the trolls that you wont do anything about.

You've given me your view of me. Here is mine of you.

#1 I quit your site and stayed away because of what you allowed to be posted here.
#2 You messaged me inquiring why I hadn't been around and I gave an explanation, and started coming back.
#3 The last time that you came out fundraising, I responded that the site has devolved into nothing but arguments. As a result I saw no point in giving any more money.
#4 I came away from that discussion with the distinct impression that you were going to put a stop to all of the pointless arguments and name calling, so I gave you $300.
#5 All of the garbage started all over again, and I called on you to end it. You said that you never promised to do anything. And you told me to lump it.
#6 I started a post that attracted the trolls and kept them talking until it go so ridiculous that you had to censor it. One troll left. In the course of that you clearly stated that if the remaining troll called me by name with insults, he would be gone. As a result of that threat...the negative behavior stopped for a few weeks. Not just with me but all of the arguments stopped.
#7 The remaining troll slowly started testing the water again with veiled insults.
#8 When that resulted in no consequences, the trolling, name calling, arguments and distracting started ramping up again.
#9 I call on you to make good on your clear and unmistakable threat to ban the troll for calling my name...and here you are attacking me again...after taking my $300.

Here is an offer and a promise...
I, personally, am not going to make any more contributions to a song writing site, characterized by, what I believe to be, pointless non-music related arguments, moderated by delusional thinking that such acrimony is necessary in the fight to keep tyrants from taking over government.

I like having a place to post songs. Nevertheless this site belongs to Brian Austin Whitney, and it is yours to run however you choose, misguided or not.
If you prefer that I quit posting here altogether, I'll stop. Understand that if I come here to put up songs and some troll harasses me for sport, and you do nothing about it, I'll hand it back for sport.

If you prefer me gone for good, state it clearly.

Marty

Let's see, the last time I treated YOU as an adult with an honest and straightforward post in response to you, you game me the TL:DR which is net speak for a FU response. So I will offer the same disrespect in return and offer a comment, more for everyone else than you, but if suddenly have more time or interest since it is about you (of course) read on.

YOU explicitly told me that YOUR brilliance SOLVED all these problems Marty. My efforts did not compare to YOUR brilliance and effort. Remember? So why are you crying again? I thought you solved it all? Not so easy is it? If you had your way, you would be typing and posting alone. You want everyone who doesn't love you to be banned. Do we have people on the fringe who make people like you mad? Yep! So does the entire world. They just assassinated one of the most moderate voices who still managed to do that because once they can shut people up with violence, or by shutting them off from speaking (like YOU wanted me to do) they hunger for MORE power and control, just like you thought $300 dollars was going to do. You are a perfect microcosm of people with money wielding it to get nothing but sycophants and people afraid to speak honestly. And when I went WAY out of my way to help you, and gave you a super easy solution to just block the people you don't like, you won't do it because you LOVE their attention and the imaginary battle you have in your head with them. As for your list, I will make you the same offer as always. You are welcome to post here, or welcome to leave. Everyone here has that choice. Frankly, once the site is updated, more people will be here and this will be forgotten like every other pissing match here before it.

People killed CK because they wanted to shut him up. This board might be a fly speck, but I am not letting bullies quiet me or people on my board unless I decide they are incapable of shutting up and moving on and are not people who offer something valued here by SOMEONE. Dom has friends, so does JAPOV. I think you do too. Focus on them, have fun, or not, your choice. That is the only "Marty Ultimatum" that matters in the end.

Brian

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