Originally Posted by Martin Lide
Originally Posted by Fdemetrio


That is because people at open mics people are listening for the performance, not the song. The vast majority of people do listen for the performance and production.




Not the case.
Many of these were NSAI functions such as swaps and almost all were amateur songwriters singing to other amateur songwriters.
They were listening to all aspects and most of them just politely passing the time until it was their moment. Not unlike here.

If you want people to listen to your "song" then it will need to "sound" good...in any context. One bit of proof could be this thread.
You can argue against that 50 ways to Sunday, but you are paddling against the current.


Depends what the rules are. If I started a songwriting forum for songwriters with a strict criteria, NO FINISHED DEMOS, only rough takes, all would be forced to listen and interact with others based on the song. Thats how it was for years and decades before home recording became a reality.

Then everybody thought they were producers, which they are not.

I skip over most songs here, because they stink, not because they arent recorded well. And I think we pidgeon hole people, if somebody is known to post crap all the time, you know what to expect, one day they may surprise me with a gem.

But if you think because somebody has a good recording of their song, that makes it any better than somebody elses you're wrong.

Anybody can buy a demo, anybody can buy a record quality demo if willing to pay through the nose.

What if everybody had a great demo of their song, then, whats left? Some songs are still going to be better than others, for a myriad of reasons.

Many of the reasons is songwriting.