I have nearly always written Lyrics and music together , They have been songs that

I have been pleased to keep performing over the years.

My point about this is the following , there are many lyric writers on web sites like J P F

who write just lyrics , The problem with that is these same lyric writers actually belive

that any lyric can be put to outstanding music that produces near perfect PROSODY

between the two. One Wannabe stated to me that over the years He or She had

collaborated with several Melody Writers , and in that twenty year period they only found it

was necessary to change around three words !!!!!!! Well I know for a fact that rarely

happens in Pro Writing , if one is expecting something worth while and worth a serious PITCH

following a Professional Collaboration - The Two or Three writers involved will get together ,

some where in the procedure The Music will take a direction where certain lines will have to be

lengthened or shortened;

This direction will be the making or the breaking of the song, and most lyric only writers would

not know that it would be the way to go. However if you just want an ( allso ran,) type of

song that has promise here and there then that's another matter .


The next problem will be The Vowel Triangle , (explained by Professor Patt Pattison in one of

his books on songwriting , briefly certain words will not work in the higher register and the same in

the lower register, When Mister Lyric Only is writing his latest offering (mainly for the eye ) he will

in general not be aware of these points , That's why many decent tune smiths wont even bother to

collaborate. Its too long winded and Its easier for them to write on their own, Over the years

there have been many partnerships that have worked , but these are very rare.

There is an awful lot of re writing going on in these Successful Partnerships, Lennon and Mc Cartney

we re one of those rare examples where it worked , but they would always re write their songs .

Dont judge some of their early stuff by many of today's offerings because we are talking about a

period some 60 years ago where some lyrics would now be judged as hammy or corny compared

with present day Language

This is what we are up against NEIL . there are no short cuts , and even One Hit Wonders are

a rare occurrence these days.


Last edited by Cheyenne; 02/25/19 01:35 PM.

One of the most important principles of songwriting is to remember that a good song is a partnership of many different components, all working together to produce a satisfying musical experience.

In that respect, song components are either enhancing or compromising their combined effects.