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Originally Posted by Rob B.
Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
I'm not going to spend any more days going back-and-forth and back-and-forth with the dysfunctional personalities on this site.

Marty makes claims about my song that he doesn't explain, and instead of having an open and constructive discussion between songwriters, he simply says he's not going to spend any more days going back and forth with the dysfunctional personalities on this site. Way to go Marty!

He doesn't have time for it, but he has time to tell us he doesn't have time for it

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Originally Posted by Rob B.
Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
I'm not going to spend any more days going back-and-forth and back-and-forth with the dysfunctional personalities on this site.

Marty makes claims about my song that he doesn't explain, and instead of having an open and constructive discussion between songwriters, he simply says he's not going to spend any more days going back and forth with the dysfunctional personalities on this site. Way to go Marty!

I'll return to address your grievance about your song Rob...but in a day or two.

And Dom, your claim about a criminal background check?

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Retarded .com with 4 million members. There hasn't been a human song on here since 1856. you could probably say your a serial killer on here and Brian would say everybody needs a hobby. Nashville is sending anthrax to Suno. I think the owner married a sex robot. I guess they improved with a lubrication button. Was it good for you certainly I'm a robot. to make it look realistic I smoke a Marlboro after

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Originally Posted by Rob B.
Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
I'm not going to spend any more days going back-and-forth and back-and-forth with the dysfunctional personalities on this site.

Marty makes claims about my song that he doesn't explain, and instead of having an open and constructive discussion between songwriters, he simply says he's not going to spend any more days going back and forth with the dysfunctional personalities on this site. Way to go Marty!

I'll return to address your grievance about your song Rob...but in a day or two.

And Dom, your claim about a criminal background check?

Hyperbole. You told everybody here, you googled me, trying to find links of my occupstion, my home, my status..
Etc.

You demanded i tell the site all of this info, in fact, Brian had to interject, by saying, nobody is going to disclose that info on an open forum, and only an obsessed stalker would ask.

I don't Google people on this site, one I guess you call character flaw I have, is when I log off here, I dont care what you do.

But you were basing your harassment of me, on previous assumptions of how I make a living

So determined to have it your way here, you were willing to publicize any info you could find, in hopes that would help you achieve what you want here.

No concern, for me, or damage you could have caused, if you had a brain or any power to do so.

Meanwhile. I write. I do what this site is for

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Dom,

I have to set this aside for today.
One more response.

It was you...

who went to my YouTube page and found a video of me (at the time 70 y.o.),
playing my guitar.
And then you posted it on this site and began a cyber-bullying session, making fun of my physical appearance.

The only person who does that type of thing...is you.

The rest of your post is distorted nonsense.



And the question remains:

What evidence do you have that I commisioned a criminal background check on you?

Spoiler alert:
There is none. it did not happen.

Are you sure that it was not your atty brother, at your behest, that did a background check on me? Or was it all in your imagination?



Now...
get in an insult and then let's let the dust settle on this thread. After a couple of days I will return with my final wrap-up for the month.

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Your on youtube showcasing music that you wanted to be seen, and at that time, arguing that band in a box was so great...etc, nobody could tell the difference etc 2..

I did not put my personal status info on YouTube.

If you can not process the difference there, i have to question your limited intelligence

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Ok. Let’s look at what’s happened here and wrap up.

For the last two months, I’ve refrained from posting except to offer a progress evaluation regarding the site’s functionality versus dysfunctionality on or about the 6th of the month. There has been improvement. The dysfunctionality, though still present, is better and some new names are coming in and posting some good tunes.

Taking a step back though, there was a consistent “FAIL.”

My evaluation, though accurate, was going to be seen as having a provocative element.
I knew that when I posted it.

THE MOST FUNCTIONAL RESPONSE TO IT was what everyone viewing did, except for the 4 usual suspects. (dysfunks, “Dung-beetles).

IGNORE IT. And let it twist in the wind and fade out.

But just like they created and immediately scampered to the dung-feast thread “beautiful mess,”
And
Just as they continuously create arguments amongst themselves,

the dung-beetle-four reflexively started FEASTING on this new opportunity for dysfunction as ALL OTHERS WATCHED.

All the while, claiming to be righteous warriors on the side of truth and justice.

To the dung-beetle-four, I suggest…

take stock and try to work on these issues between now and the 6th of next month when I return for my monthly eval.

The site will improve if you do.

Good luck.

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Well, it's been a month since my last review and assessment. So let's take a look and see how things have come along in the last month.

BASELINE (per Gemini)
When something is functional it “fulfills its intended purpose and operates effectively”

When something is dysfunctional it “it fails to operate properly, fulfill its intended purpose, or maintain healthy, effective performance.”

When adverse forces act in a manner contrary to the intended purpose of a functionality, those forces are destructive, disruptive, or antagonistic—often resulting in operational failure, stress, or dysfunction.

It is a songwriting site. The intended purpose is songwriting.


OVERVIEW (at a glance)

The site is much improved.


EVIDENCE OF IMPROVEMENT

There was a thread titled “beautiful mess.”
This was a “dung beetle” picking at scabs in an effort to create a dung thread to feed on...posed as a "song."
The ploy, as usual, was to pick at a scab, get something going, and then insidiously, but obviously, deny the intent.

When the thread was started, 4 dung beetles immediately converged on the thread but could not get anything going, so the thread fizzled and faded.

That’s a very positive indicator.

There was a thread titled “a brand new set of keys.”
That was an attempt to get a political diatribe going, and derail songwriting for that self-centered purpose. But alas, THERE WERE NO TAKERS.
And that attempt fizzled and faded, as well.

That’s a very positive indicator.

One of the dysfunks effectively made a public apology to the site for being part of the politically based diatribes that have riddled the site with dysfunction for years.

That was a very positive indicator, and displayed elevated character. This person has been removed from the list of dysfunks.


OTHER ASPECTS:
John S’s influence is exceptionally polite and mild mannered. With some of the other dysfunction gone, that leaves “space” for him to have a good effect as a steward.


A PROBLEM THAT REMAINS
After years of dysfunctional dynamics, most of the activity that remains here is from the residual dysfunks. They often dysfunctionally argue with each other, now that the number of available other targets has dwindled.

However, there are some new names showing up and posting songs. Some good songs. Their posts should be encouraged and interacted with more than they are.


CONCLUSION:
Things are much improved.
Keep it on the “intended purpose.”
Leave derailing side-shows and derailing topics out of it.
Encourage the new people and provide a comfortable atmosphere for them.


See you in a month…maybe.

SP

Marty, did anybody ever ask for your monthly “evaluation” report? I can’t recall that anybody did. Posts like this are completely expendable. They add no value to the songwriting discussion and are filled with rants, insults and name-calling. If anything, posts like these are exactly the kind of thing that can drive people away from a site.

Yesterday you made a claim about a song I wrote: “There was a thread titled ‘A Brand New Set of Keys.’ That was an attempt to get a political diatribe going, and derail songwriting for that self-centered purpose. But alas, THERE WERE NO TAKERS. And that attempt fizzled and faded.”
You said you would explain to me where the politics in that song are. You didn’t explain it, because you can’t. The song isn’t about politics. You simply decided that it was.

This website may be a mess, but in some ways it’s still a beautiful mess. You can discuss songs, songwriting and all sorts of related topics with other songwriters here. We don’t have to agree with each other all the time. As long as we don’t make everything personal, disagreement is perfectly healthy. Yes, sometimes it gets messy.
For example, look at what you just wrote. What a mess.

And now I guess we have to wait another month for you to tell us what the forum’s intended purpose is, who is helping or hurting it, and how everyone is progressing. Wow. How are we ever going to survive the suspense?

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Marty you are exhibiting troll behaviour.

So I ask you to stop now.


If writing ever becomes work I think I'm going to have to stop

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Martys planning on coming back with music, how do I know?

He "doesn't do reviews any more, but he just had to on Michael w smiths song "

Loll, yeah knowing he likely won't have any support, he figures he'll work somebody neutral. And what better way to get reviews by telling the person you want a review from, how good they are"

Guaranteed he's working on music and will be posting it.

I can't wait to tell him it sucks

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