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ENTJ
Extravert iNtuitive Thinking Judging
Your trait preferences:

marginal or no (3%) preference of Extraversion over Introversion
slight (19%) preference of Intuition over Sensing
moderate (28%) preference of Thinking over Feeling
moderate (44%) preference of Judging over Perceiving

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Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
Neither is better than the other, it is just how you prefer to see the world.

That is an absurd statement. It is something that an addled housewife or a random neurotic would tell themselves.
It is akin to "my truth"... and "if it doesn't hurt anyone (in my estimation) then there is nothing wrong with it."

Don't believe me. Do some reading. Start with Socrates, Aristotle and Plato going on 2600+ years ago. Work forward from there. They got it right way back then. The "senses" (feelings/perceptions) create distortion. Emotions are inescapable, but it is important to recognize the distortion.

We live in decadent times John. There are people pushing the notion that a human body with 30 trillion Y chromosomes can wish itself to be female. Feelings and fluidity. Not fact, but non-realistic mental outlooks.

You are hard left so you buy into some of that.
I "lead with my head." So I don't.

Tony is akin to a chimp at the zoo that craps in his hand and tosses turds at people outside his enclosure.
Tony is not some completely satisfactory alternative way to view the world. He is dysfunctional.

A favor...
I've gotten busy lately and am trying to avoid engaging Tony's insults and his rant thread idiocy.
Please dont bring my name up to him.
If you engage him and leave me out of your discourse, he will end up his tossing his turds at you.

Better you, than me.
LOL

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
Neither is better than the other, it is just how you prefer to see the world.

That is an absurd statement. It is something that an addled housewife or a random neurotic would tell themselves.
It is akin to "my truth"... and "if it doesn't hurt anyone (in my estimation) then there is nothing wrong with it."

Don't believe me. Do some reading. Start with Socrates, Aristotle and Plato going on 2600+ years ago. Work forward from there. They got it right way back then. We live in decadent times John.
There are people pushing the notion that a human body with 30 trillion Y chromosomes can wish itself to be female. Feelings and fluidity. Not fact, but non-realistic mental outlooks.

You are hard left so you buy into some of that.
I "lead with my head." So I don't.

Tony is akin to a chimp at the zoo that craps in his hand and tosses turds at people outside his enclosure.
Tony is not some completely satisfactory alternative way to view the world. He is dysfunctional.

A favor...
I've gotten busy lately and am trying to avoid engaging Tony's insults and this his rant thread idiocy.
Please dont bring my name up to him.
If you engage him and leave me out of your discourse, he will end up his tossing his turds at you.

Better you, than me.
LOL

Ha!
Someone obviously didn't like his test results...

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Tony,

You should start another one of your beloved "rant" threads.
It would be appropriately named;

THE CHIMPANZEE EXHIBIT
or
CHIMP ISLAND
or
THE CHIMP CAGE
or simply
TONY THE TURD TOSSING CHIMP (my personal favorite)

Additionally you might consider changing your user name and accomplished persona as guitarist and songwriter from JAPOV to SHABONZO.

and now, back to John. Maybe he can find another test for you to take that you will create the illusion that you are something more, than a random nut job spewing nonsense. Such capsulated internet personality tests are like horoscopes. They make any participant feel "special."

Tests that are truly useful are lengthy and deliver the bad news as well as the good.

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Tony,

You should start another one of your beloved "rant" threads.
It would be appropriately named;

THE CHIMPANZEE EXHIBIT
or
CHIMP ISLAND
or
THE CHIMP CAGE
or simply
TONY THE TURD TOSSING CHIMP (my personal favorite)

Additionally you might consider changing your user name and accomplished persona as guitarist and songwriter from JAPOV to SHABONZO.

and now, back to John. Maybe he can find another test for you to take that you will create the illusion that you are something more, than a random nut job spewing nonsense. Such capsulated internet personality tests are like horoscopes. They make any participant feel "special."

Tests that are truly useful are lengthy and deliver the bad news as well as the good.

xoxo

I want to know if JohnV actually has a point to make...
Just post your results, Mr Lied.


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ENTJ surprises me Tony but if true you have now created different expectations of you.
I expect to see this kind of person https://www.16personalities.com/entj-personality https://www.mbtionline.com/en-US/MBTI-Types/ENTJ

This type does not "naturally" engage others the way you have chose to engage (mainly "The One Who Shall Not Be Named ...TOWSNBN) here. ....hence you do so totally as a constructed choice...not a reaction via your feelings as I thought.

You can intellectualize a situation you "feel" and examine it from different angles almost in an instant....and extrapolate out from there.
I can only conclude you are intentionally being disruptive just for sport....and call it "Just Another Point of View"

You would also have done a far better job of painting your picture of TOWSNBN ...had you done the most basic research you would NEVER have challenged him on "building a foundation" instead of pouring one.

Still, TOWSNBN is wrong ....this test is NOT a personality test or an IQ test...simply designed to show how you prefer to perceive the world, process your thoughts and make decisions.
Hence there is no right way here. It is a real world mainstream HR department test ....employers get insight into how people think. It would be terrible to let a bunch of INTJs loose for example because we value people less than process and efficiency and look at bigger pictures...so we ^(*&^( up as a group when it comes to understanding how people will react to changes we dream up...we simply sacrifice them on the altar of "it works better this way" You also do not want people who cannot make decisions because they get caught up in the process

So Tony...I now expect you to understand that your behaviour IN THIS INSTANCE (as an ENTJ you will understand I am not calliling you a universal ahole) your behaviour here is wrong
(it's like tellg your kids...just because I am mad you because you sawed a corner off the coffee table does not mean you are a bad person.)

You can choose to rise above this and behave civily and give this sit back to Brian.

It is a decision you are highly capable of making ...as an ENTJ you can understand the damage your behaviour is doing.


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Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
ENTJ surprises me Tony but if true you have now created different expectations of you.
I expect to see this kind of person https://www.16personalities.com/entj-personality https://www.mbtionline.com/en-US/MBTI-Types/ENTJ

This type does not "naturally" engage others the way you have chose to engage (mainly "The One Who Shall Not Be Named ...TOWSNBN) here. ....hence you do so totally as a constructed choice...not a reaction via your feelings as I thought.

You can intellectualize a situation you "feel" and examine it from different angles almost in an instant....and extrapolate out from there.
I can only conclude you are intentionally being disruptive just for sport....and call it "Just Another Point of View"

You would also have done a far better job of painting your picture of TOWSNBN ...had you done the most basic research you would NEVER have challenged him on "building a foundation" instead of pouring one.

Still, TOWSNBN is wrong ....this test is NOT a personality test or an IQ test...simply designed to show how you prefer to perceive the world, process your thoughts and make decisions.
Hence there is no right way here. It is a real world mainstream HR department test ....employers get insight into how people think. It would be terrible to let a bunch of INTJs loose for example because we value people less than process and efficiency and look at bigger pictures...so we ^(*&^( up as a group when it comes to understanding how people will react to changes we dream up...we simply sacrifice them on the altar of "it works better this way" You also do not want people who cannot make decisions because they get caught up in the process

So Tony...I now expect you to understand that your behaviour IN THIS INSTANCE (as an ENTJ you will understand I am not calliling you a universal ahole) your behaviour here is wrong
(it's like tellg your kids...just because I am mad you because you sawed a corner off the coffee table does not mean you are a bad person.)

You can choose to rise above this and behave civily and give this sit back to Brian.

It is a decision you are highly capable of making ...as an ENTJ you can understand the damage your behaviour is doing.

Yeah', just what I thought...
The truth is, Brian should be the "ENTJ"!

The rest of you have no integrity, no discipline, no insight, and no genuine conviction; You are willfully ignorant. You're just a bunch of aimless and disobedient children who can't see past your need for immediate gratification. Rebellion against authority is your only functioning instinct, and blame is your typically juvenile recourse. None of you will ever know harmony because you thrive in chaos and deceit.

Thank you for the usual redundancy, JohnV.

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Sorry you cannot understand my points Tony. Either that or you dismissed them without a second thought.
Neither are thinking or processing traits normally attributed to ENTJs
Did you cheat and simply choose a type at random?


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Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
Sorry you cannot understand my points Tony. Either that or you dismissed them without a second thought.
Neither are thinking or processing traits normally attributed to ENTJs
Did you cheat and simply choose a type at random?

Cheat?
OMG, You're JEALOUS!

LMBFHWCAO!!!!
Yes, JohnV... In the 10 minutes I spent on that site, I figured out how to "cheat" the results... because, that's how important you idiots are to me! LOLOL!!!

You people are fuk'n RIDICULOUS!!!


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John V

I think that I see where you were trying to get to with Tony. But he's dysfunctional and warped beyond reasoning with. It is my desire to disengage him. So please as a favor, leave my name out of your conversations with him.

I thought about sending this in a PM, but it seemed just as well to put it here.

Have a good day

Marty

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In the 10 minutes you spent on that site you could not possibly have taken the test.

And no, not jealous at all. Why would I be jealous? I already told you one type is no better or worse than another....why would I be jealous in how you prefer to gain mental energy, see the world, process information and make judgements? I am quite happy as an INTJ.


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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
John V

I think that I see where you were trying to get to with Tony. But he's dysfunctional and warped beyond reasoning with. It is my desire to disengage him. So please as a favor, leave my name out of your conversations with him.

I thought about sending this in a PM, but it seemed just as well to put it here.

Have a good day

Marty

Face it, Manpussy...
I'm better looking, smarter, and a lot more talented than you. smile

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Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
In the 10 minutes you spent on that site you could not possibly have taken the test.

And no, not jealous at all. Why would I be jealous? I already told you one type is no better or worse than another....why would I be jealous in how you prefer to gain mental energy, see the world, process information and make judgements? I am quite happy as an INTJ.

""one type is no better or worse than another....why would I be jealous""


Yes, JV, I cheated.


Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
As for not commenting or not posting...or only posting on Rob's song....he is fresh air at a place that had turned into Tony & Marty slugfest which both sides see as simple entertainment with you coming in with side snipes.

I certainly lurked and read some of the errr creative goings on...but was not participating. Likely has to do with me respecting Brian's place here...he's tried to turn things, to mediate things, to guide things...but to no avail. Staying out of things was to me doing Brian a favour.

But I see that this is entirely hopeless as nothing can be posted here anymore without the trio of usual suspects coming in to roil things around.

BUT WHAT DOES ALL THIS PSYCHOBABBLE HAVE TO DO WITH YOU AND BRIAN EQUATING ME THE SAME AS MANPUSSY, DOMDOM, AND FUK'TARD!?!?

Answer:
Yeah', just what I thought...
The truth is, Brian should be the "ENTJ"!

The rest of you have no integrity, no discipline, no insight, and no genuine conviction; You are willfully ignorant. You're just a bunch of aimless and disobedient children who can't see past your need for immediate gratification. Rebellion against authority is your only functioning instinct, and blame is your typically juvenile recourse. None of you will ever know harmony because you thrive in chaos and deceit.

Thank you for the usual redundancy, JohnV.

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Thank you for your usual response Tony.

You are creating a fine legacy here yourself. Left here for all to read and make their own judgements.


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John V

I don't think that you are seeing Tony for what he is. He characterizes all of us as disobedient children. The implication is that we are disobedient children of God.

Tony sees himself as a righteous Warrior. He sees these rantings on a songwriting site as if he was Paul on the road to Corinth. That is an airtight bubble. He is not going to change or be open to reason. He is inextricably convinced that you and everyone who does not subscribe to the Church of Tony is blind and a disobedient child.

All of this is glorifying in the mind of Tony, but absolute poison to any constructive Unity on a site that claims to be about songwriting. Tony is not going to be talked out of his delusions. They are too emotionally rewarding for him.

The biggest problem in all of this Is Brian Whitney. It's completely dysfunctional and he could stop it at any time, but year after year, he lets it go on, and then blames the participants.

Sometimes broken is just broken.

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Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
Thank you for your usual response Tony.

You are creating a fine legacy here yourself. Left here for all to read and make their own judgements.

Any Time, JV


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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
John V

I don't think that you are seeing Tony for what he is. He characterizes all of us as disobedient children. The implication is that we are disobedient children of God.

Tony sees himself as a righteous Warrior. He sees these rantings on a songwriting site as if he was Paul on the road to Corinth. That is an airtight bubble. He is not going to change or be open to reason. He is inextricably convinced that you and everyone who does not subscribe to the Church of Tony is blind and a disobedient child.

All of this is glorifying in the mind of Tony, but absolute poison to any constructive Unity on a site that claims to be about songwriting. Tony is not going to be talked out of his delusions. They are too emotionally rewarding for him.

The biggest problem in all of this Is Brian Whitney. It's completely dysfunctional and he could stop it at any time, but year after year, he lets it go on, and then blames the participants.

Sometimes broken is just broken.

OK, Mr Lied... Your turn.
You're right, I'm a Christian songwriter and that will never change.
But, how the hell does that make me the same as You, Dom, and Elvis, and what do you suggest I do about it?


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Tony,

We both know that you're not looking for a line of reasoning. You are locked into what you believe.

You come to this site and rant and insult people because you feed off of the Discord and interpret the Discord to be a validation of the Church of Tony.

Other than websites that are missioned to be about arguing, I have never seen a website other than this one and tune Smith that would allow you to go on and on.

Broken brains can't be fixed.

A couple of days ago some nutcase stabbed a policeman in the head in Downtown Houston after motioning the police over to him. I've no doubt that if you ask him why he did it, he'd come back with some line of crazy.

Broken brains can't be fixed

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Tony,

We both know that you're not looking for a line of reasoning. You are locked into what you believe.

You come to this site and rant and insult people because you feed off of the Discord and interpret the Discord to be a validation of the Church of Tony.

Other than websites that are missioned to be about arguing, I have never seen a website other than this one and tune Smith that would allow you to go on and on.

Broken brains can't be fixed.

A couple of days ago some nutcase stabbed a policeman in the head in Downtown Houston after motioning the police over to him. I've no doubt that if you ask him why he did it, he'd come back with some line of crazy.

Broken brains can't be fixed

False premise and insult, as usual...

This whole site is littered with your blathering about "Crazy Christians", biased politicians, the philosophical attributes of atheism, the primary function of a songwriting site... and it all started here on 11/09/20:
https://www.jpfolks.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/1170841/prophecy-anyone.html#Post1170841

You're a liar.

I will not change. I will not compromise. I will not make any deals with you. Your Godless sophistry will never deter me. You will simply continue to envy and hate me, and I will not care.

You only have two choices;
-Continue lying and antagonizing me...
-Or, Fuuk Off!


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I know all that.

And another part of your pathology is believing that almost everyone agrees with you.. and being stunned when someone lumps you in with me and Dom and Ben and the antichrist.

No surprise there either.

That will have to end today's futile lesson.

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
I know all that.

And another part of your pathology is believing that almost everyone agrees with you.. and being stunned when someone lumps you in with me and Dom and Ben and the antichrist.

No surprise there either.

That will have to end today's futile lesson.

Phfffft... Speaking of pathology


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Hey, JV...

Originally Posted by JAPOV
ENTJ
Extravert iNtuitive Thinking Judging
Your trait preferences:

marginal or no (3%) preference of Extraversion over Introversion
slight (19%) preference of Intuition over Sensing
moderate (28%) preference of Thinking over Feeling
moderate (44%) preference of Judging over Perceiving

Still think I cheated...?

Lol


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I think you should seed these around to the other threads more Tony. You can then clearly demonstrate that you did by displaying behaviour at odds with your claim

Originally Posted by JAPOV
Hey, JV...

Originally Posted by JAPOV
ENTJ
Extravert iNtuitive Thinking Judging
Your trait preferences:

marginal or no (3%) preference of Extraversion over Introversion
slight (19%) preference of Intuition over Sensing
moderate (28%) preference of Thinking over Feeling
moderate (44%) preference of Judging over Perceiving

Still think I cheated...?

Lol


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Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
I think you should seed these around to the other threads more Tony. You can then clearly demonstrate that you did by displaying behaviour at odds with your claim

Originally Posted by JAPOV
Hey, JV...

Originally Posted by JAPOV
ENTJ
Extravert iNtuitive Thinking Judging
Your trait preferences:

marginal or no (3%) preference of Extraversion over Introversion
slight (19%) preference of Intuition over Sensing
moderate (28%) preference of Thinking over Feeling
moderate (44%) preference of Judging over Perceiving

Still think I cheated...?

Lol

Good Grief!
Fine, JohnV,
Please educate us...
What does ENTJ really mean?

I don't even know, but you're saying I cheated...
You're just as stupid as the rest.
YOU'RE THE FOURTH STOOGE!


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Thank you. I really felt left out Tony.

So what is next? You drag me down to your level and clobber me with your experience?

Oh and an ENTJ would not naturally continuously (how long now?) spew emotionally charged invective at people because they hurt his feelings like you do.


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Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
Thank you. I really felt left out Tony.

So what is next? You drag me down to your level and clobber me with your experience?

Oh and an ENTJ would not naturally continuously (how long now?) spew emotionally charged invective at people because they hurt his feelings like you do.

Lol... You assume way too much about me, JV.

You started all this psychobabble; Finish it.
Define ENTJ and quit projecting YOUR "feelings" in my direction.
Google says I'm the "commander" lol... I don't care about your feelings.


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