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Playing along, struggling with this one...

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Here's what we have so far


NTT #109

RMQOLITMJMTLKDD

This is my most favourite song of all time....let me know if you can find an artist who HASN’T recorded it.

Name the song’s full title....the first artist to record it....the signature album, the songwriter(s)

Had modest success on Billboard Hot 100

It could easily be posted on another thread on JPF...I’ll post it there after the scramble is solved

Clue # 1

The intro is 5 seconds long and the song title is mentioned immediately after the intro and never mentioned again in the song....


Clue #2

The singer won half an EGOT

This should give it away


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Clue # 3

When I say it had modest success on Billboard Hot 100, a cover of the song got to # 35....that same cover got to #1 on adult contemporary/easy listening charts...the original singer I don't think charted on Billboard Hot 100


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Clue #4

I had the vinyl, eight track, cassette and CD of the album...that's going back a few years...lol


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Clue # 5

A few artists who have sung the song on an album

Elvis
Tom Jones
Roberta Flack
The Temptations
Diana Ross and the Supremes
The Vogues
Glen Campbell
Sammy Davis Jr.
Aretha Franklin
Jennifer Hudson


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The Impossible Dream (The Quest)

Richard Kiley - first performer

Man of La Mancha - signature album

Joe Darion, Mitch Leigh - songwriters

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Congrats Mike!! You found your decoder ring...great job



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I think I know every word in the album


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Great song!

"The Vogues" were the weakest link as they only had a 5 or 6 albums from which to find a song that everybody recorded but none had a big hit with. I was already thinking film or Broadway.

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Congrats Mike!! You found your decoder ring...great job

He sure did…Congratulations Mike!! This had me stumped. I went to see this show when I was a kid on a local stage in Huntsville Al. Great game, great song!

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It's amazing that it didn't really chart but was sung by so many artists....Jack Jones got to # 35...I just love the story behind the play....when I was young and felt a little down.....this got me back on track so many times


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Congrats Mike!! You found your decoder ring...great job

He sure did…Congratulations Mike!! This had me stumped. I went to see this show when I was a kid on a local stage in Huntsville Al. Great game, great song!


What I love about this thread, Craig, is just the point you're making...music always brings back the past


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The original version is cemented in memory. Lines like "to love pure and chaste from afar" have a staying power...

The OST was in my sister's collection when I was growing up in The Sixties. Ugly yellow album cover if memory serves... Duh...look up, Mike...

Great game!

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Isn't this the essence of lyric writing?



To dream the impossible dream
To fight the unbeatable foe
To bear with unbearable sorrow
And to run where the brave dare not go
To right the unrightable wrong
And to love pure and chaste from afar
To try when your arms are too weary
To reach the unreachable star
This is my quest
To follow that star
No matter how hopeless
No matter how far
To fight for the right
Without question or pause
To be willing to march, march into Hell
For that Heavenly cause
And I know if I'll only be true
To this glorious quest
That my heart will lie peaceful and calm
When I'm laid to my rest
And the world will be better for this
That one man, scorned and covered with scars
Still strove with his last ounce of courage
To reach the unreachable
The unreachable
The unreachable star


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Don Quixote fought windmills and today we use windmills to fight climate change....go figure


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Thanks, Guys!

Here's NTT #110:

https://on.soundcloud.com/kv6gH


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I might have been able to guess the Imp Dream song had I had more time to study it. Great Song! I always wanted to play that role in a musical production.

Gee Mike.........#110 sounds a little "dark." Is it one of John's S's songs? I'll probably need a hint or two, or maybe more notes.

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Six notes is about the average for classic NTT?

If no one gets it by tomorrow, first clue will be accompanied with a scramble.

It's a song everybody definitely knows.

Those are the first six notes, as sung, in that register, at that exact tempo...


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Clue No 1:

6 NTT notes:

https://on.soundcloud.com/kv6gH


--and now a scramble:

BAWABCTSTGBGS

Name the song, the songwriter(s), and the name of the band or group.


Clues:

Massive UK hit made it to #13 in USA

Frankie Valli had no luck with this song. He recorded it first and it did NOT make the top 100!

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The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine (Anymore) Song

The Walker Brothers Group

Bob Crewe, Bob Gaudio Songwriters

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WOW! That's impressive, Steve! Congrats, you are correct!




Three guys that weren't really brothers play as a trio in Los Angeles in '64, in '65 move to Britain, become massive teen idols, getting more fan mail than The Beatles.

Scott goes solo, makes 5 increasingly more idiosyncratic albums featuring his own songwriting as well as covering a lot of Jacques Brel. Scott 4 is considered his masterpiece.

A classic from his middle period:



--imagine Jack Jones on acid...

In the last third of his life he became a modern classical composer while continuing to utilize his voice that was often compared to Jack Jones'. This combination of crooner vocals with "difficult music" made for some of the most unique records ever made, such as "Tilt" and "The Drift."

Scott Walker's life and career was that of an exploratory, innovative artist and composer. He died in 2019 at 73.

A wonderful documentary exists, "Scott Walker: 30 Century Man."

**********************************************************************************

Great game and congrats again, Steve!!!!!!!!

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when I saw the scramble, I was thinking The Bee Gees, The Who or The Guess Who as possibly being the group....then when you mentioned Frankie Vallie..I thought maybe the song was written by Barry Gibb ...so I looked up FV songs and there it was
...I thought it had to have a long title


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Well done. I vetted the Frankie Valli info and knew it was out there but not too easy to find.

I thought it made a nice segue from the last two songs, considering Valli and Jack Jones...plus, Scott Walker is one of my favorite artists.

You're on top of your game, for sure!

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Congratulations Steve! Listened to the clue twice last night, couldn’t place it…although this is one of my favorite’60s songs! Great game Mike!!

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Here’s JPF Mystery Tune #111. Too easy!

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The long note beginning this song belies its tempo. Clue: the tempo on this song is moderately fast.

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Paint It, Black ??

The Rolling Stones


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Paint It, Black ??

The Rolling Stones

No, Steve. Unfortunately, that’s not it..

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Probably a female vocalist since you pitched it in soprano register, or the dude from The Stylistics, lol...or Frankie Valli...not...

--will wait for another clue...

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Probably a female vocalist since you pitched it in soprano register, or the dude from The Stylistics, lol...or Frankie Valli...not...

This song was recorded by a male group, with at least one member a tenor. Though I wouldn’t say they were known for their voices, like the Vogues or something. Clue: a ‘60s song that reached #3 U.S. and #1 in Canada. Name the song, group, and songwriter(s).

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Clue #3: the songwriting team who wrote the mystery tune also contributed successful songs to such groups as Jay and the Americans.

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Two songwriting teams that wrote for Jay and the Americans were Boyce/Hart and Pomus/Shuman...neither wrote a USA number three hit for any group/band, or a song beginning with that sung melody. Goffin/King did, "Pleasant Valley Sunday" for the Monkees, but there's no such NTT melody in that song. It even was #1 in Canada, but it ain't the song....d a n g...............

Must be a more obscure song that Jay and the Americans recorded, and by a songwriting team that's none of the above...

NOT Barry Mann/Cynthia Weil...
not Crewe/Gaudio...

--and the only hit Bacharach and David wrote for a group in the Sixties was "Little Red Book" by Love which bubbled under the top 40.

S T U M P E D....

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Hey Mike. You’ve hit on the group and songwriters.

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Pleasant Valley Sunday? performed by The Monkees - written by Gerry Goffin & Carole King

(I couldn't hear it with the piano clearly, but just deduced this as a reasonable guess from the clues)

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Pleasant Valley Sunday? performed by The Monkees - written by Gerry Goffin & Carole King

(I couldn't hear it with the piano clearly, but just deduced this as a reasonable guess from the clues)

That’s not it either Eddie…geez, maybe I’m not playing it right. Will provide another clue..

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Here’s JPF Mystery Tune #111 (Revised). Added 3 notes.

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Valleri - The Monkees - Boyce and Hart

I messed up by not scanning The Monkees discography thoroughly like I did the Boyce and Hart wikipedia page that does NOT mention Valleri (!), and I shouldn't have needed to, as I know the song well. Now I feel like an idiot! In a good way, that is. wink

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The Monkees discography thoroughly like I did the Boyce and Hart wikipedia page that does NOT mention Valleri (!)

Hey Mike, I was wondering about that! As I recall reading, Boyce & Hart were the original producers of the song as well and it was recut because the Monkees’ TV show required that they be noted as producers, or something like that… maybe that’s why it wasn’t found..

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Congratulations, Mike’s the winner!! Here’s the song.



#112 is next!

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Great game!

Yeah, the Boyce/Hart Wikipedia page mentioned "Pleasant Valley Sunday" and my thinking was that any top ten song would be mentioned, as they had less than a dozen all told...

Love the song, even the obvious "homage" to Richards' "Satisfaction" lick...

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When I saw the Monkees clue and checked out that Pleasant Valley Sunday made it to #1 in Canada and #3 in US--thought that must be it. Your 2nd piano does sound more like the Valerie melody. I think I would have gotten it on my next research trip--but not too much free time on my hands. I think that was my 2nd fav Monkees song, 1st being Day Dream Believer, 3rd, Last train to Clarksville. I'm a Believer which I think was their 1st big hit just got over-played for me I think. I wasn't a big Monkees fan being a Beatles fan at that time and wasn't keen on them being a TV auditioned band. But give them credit, they actually weren't too bad on their own. Heck, I'm old enough to remember Mickey as "Circus Boy" on that TV show late 50's--ouch!

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Heck, I'm old enough to remember Mickey as "Circus Boy" on that TV show late 50's--ouch!

Ha - I don’t remember that one Eddie!

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Google it. He was a little blond headed boy probably about 10 or 11 years old when he played the role of circus boy. He really hadn’t changed a lot you can definitely recognize him when you see it. I’m sure you can find it online. I think the series was on like maybe 1957 to 1960.

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Google it. He was a little blond headed boy probably about 10 or 11 years old when he played the role of circus boy. He really hadn’t changed a lot you can definitely recognize him when you see it. I’m sure you can find it online. I think the series was on like maybe 1957 to 1960.

This sounds like Toby Tyler, a book I read as a kid. He ran away to the circus and had a rough go.

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NTT #112

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Two songs, one singer, two songwriters, both big hits


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Clue # 1

I was quite surprised who the songwriter was on one of the songs...the songwriter was a great singer as well....


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Clue #2

The songs are connected other than the same singer

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Clue # 3

The singer is a multi-talented individual


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Sitting out for a while, eyes are bothering me...too much gazing into PC monitor me thinks frown


Fate doesn't hang on a wrong or right choice
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