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Lol that is a bit from the movie "History of the world" with Mel Brooks. I guess the movie is offensive if you let it offend you.

Well yeah, Written word is what all religions are based on, Hindu, Mormon, Islam, All the mythologies all have a book. And most view them as sacred books.

If I were God, which im not, I woulda visited all the countries, in 2000 years He could have. That way there would be one religion, and more people would have lived longer lives because of it. But I guess He has his reasons.

Faith is everything....

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Christianity HAS covered the globe Dom. In fact, Armageddon won't end until the "number of the gentiles is complete"...

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Hmmmm.... let's see now...
We've got wars and rumors of wars, racial animosity, pestilence, rampant lawlessness, global antisemitic anti-christian sentiment, floods, unseasonable weather, raging seas... Sure has been a while since we've had an earthquake.

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Did I not hear of another earthquake off Alaska just a few days ago, barely made the news because I don't believe there was any damage.

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From THE horse's mouth FYI
https://www.iris.edu/hq/inclass/fact-sheet/how_often_do_earthquakes_occur


" On average, Magnitude 2 and smaller earthquakes occur several hundred times a day world wide. Major earthquakes, greater than magnitude 7, happen more than once per month. "Great earthquakes", magnitude 8 and higher, occur about once a year."


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How about a little law and science... lol?

https://www.hallindsey.com/videos/hal-lindsey-presents-8152021/749/

PS: JV, you can easily explain away earthquakes, but you can't explain why I was inspired to post what I did the day before... smile

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That is the wonder of just another point of view


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Dear Abbey

So I went on a set of errands this morning with my daughter. Dropped off her car and went to an international food store I like where I get free range mennonite eggs and cheeses and assorted stuff that appeals to my northern european ancestry....like herring which is currently de-oiling and tenderizing in buttermilk. Secret my Bene taught me. Milk will do for salted barrel herring...if you're not from here you don't get that either.

Anyway I'd also picked up two non alcoholic beer, Gerstel, so on cashing out, they gave me two ginger lime bavaria's to try which I now see contain 26+gms of sugar each.

At whatever price they can't give it away so I guess they're giving it away.

I'd regift but would feel guilty about the sugar content

Should I?

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Mix the Ginger-Lime with 100 proof rum and take all things in moderation wink

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By Hal Lindsey

Common sense straight thinking seeing the obvious. The whole world seems to find these things more and more difficult. And the Bible tells us why. 2 Timothy 3:8 speaks of men who oppose the truth, men of depraved mind.

It makes sense. The more people oppose truth, the more difficult it becomes to think straight.

Romans 1:18-32 takes that same concept and elaborates it on a large scale. It speaks of peoples and nations turning against God. Romans 1:18 says they suppress the truth in unrighteous. Verse 21 speaks of people refusing to honor God, then becoming futile in their speculations. Romans 1:22 says, Professing to be wise, they became fools.

The 24th verse says that because of decisions to reject God in favor of evil, God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity. Verse 25 says, They exchanged the truth of God for a lie. The verses that follow give specific details of the kinds of sin such deteriorating civilizations fall into.

The sad story crescendos in Romans 1:28. Just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind.

The King James Version says, reprobate mind. The New King James and the English Standard Versions say, debased mind. The New American Standard Bible and the New International Version say, depraved mind. The Greek here carries the connotation of worthlessness.

The mind loses worth because it no longer does its job. People stop being able to think in their own best interests. Consider massive capitalist firms trying to appease socialists by adopting socialist rhetoric and values. Somehow it never occurs to them that the monster theyre now helping to nourish and grow, will one day see them as lunch.

Another example would be when the freest, fairest, most prosperous nation in the history of the world decides to rip itself into pieces because it was never perfect. The examples could go on all day. Read any news site on any day. Youll see examples everywhere of individuals, companies, nations, and groups of nations acting against their own self-interests.

When nations and people purge their minds of God, they begin to think self-destructively.

For those who hold fast to God and His word, it can all be dismaying. How do we respond? Do we become outraged or fearful? No. When Jesus said to preach the Gospel everywhere and to everyone, He included these very people. Christ died for them. He loved them that much, so we should love them, too.

1 John 4:18 explains the amazing result of such love. Perfect love casts out fear. 2 Timothy 1:7 puts it like this. God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.

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I just can't help it ya'll... The world is a soapbox derby headed for Hell and Biden is greasing America's wheels! There are reasons why America became so great so fast, and has always led by example... Without America's do it yourself independent attitude, intolerance of tyranny, Constitutional devotion to freedom and Christian morality..., and in this current sycophantic, "cult of personality", media driven paradigm we call modern politically correct society..., what will the world turn to when America is gone? What example will the world then embrace?

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Given American history and values of "independent attitude, intolerance of tyranny, Constitutional devotion to freedom and Christian morality..., and in this current sycophantic, "cult of personality", media driven paradigm we call modern politically correct society..., what will the world turn to when America is gone? What example will the world then embrace?"

Wow this is not just another pointof view

Lot in these words of yours that need explaining as in "what particular sycophantic cult of personality are you referring to" as there are more than one we can relevantly discuss

Media driven paradigm we call modern politically correct society too needs a lot more flesh before such a general statement means anything

Constitution devotion to freedom and Christian Christian moralily?

Christian morality will last long after you and I are gone so rest assured that is going to influence our world and how we all live together going forward

What the USA does and becomes as an example to lead the world includes adherance to US Constitutional rights guarantying freedom of religion, so to say Christinaity or Christial Morality must alway be the predominant filter goes against that. Freedom of religion includes how they collectively influence and impact the USA as a country. What is interesting is that religions agree on much. Certainly the Golden Rule and basic commandments and rules and conventions of born into societies.


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John, Morality is not a Christian invention. If before Jesus, or Moses (the legend), people didnt know that Killing or Stealing, or Adultry were bad things, they werent thinking. And All religions have supposed moral codes written in their texts, but its all based on common sense.

And they dont put in you jail for murder or stealing because of religion.

Laws of society have been around since man first stepped out of the caves, and started communities. You have to have laws cause society wont last without them.

I cling to my Christian beliefs, catholic religion, hoping it helps me on my journey, but i believe the world is becoming more atheistic or agnostic. This would be a sign. a CHAPLAIN, at harvard, is an ATHEIST.

https://www.deseret.com/2021/8/27/22644492/harvard-new-chief-chaplain-atheist

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Our Founding Fathers were keenly aware about the risks of governing solely by majority rule, which is why they gave us a constitutional republic laden with checks and balances.

"If men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary. In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the governed; and in the next place oblige it to control itself. A dependence on the people is, no doubt, the primary control on the government; but experience has taught mankind the necessity of auxiliary precautions." James Madison

The wisdom of auxiliary precautions has been grasped since antiquity. Plato, for example, critiqued radical democracy for putting excessive emphasis on freedom and thus opening itself up to injustice and eventual collapse. Unrestrained freedom, he argued, leads people to overindulge their appetites and act on foolish impulses. Such a state quickly deteriorates into anarchy and mob rule, ultimately betraying the common good. Eventually, this pervasive injustice can open the way for despotism. As weve learned from the outcome of the French Revolution, what began as a democratic Enlightenment project to fulfill the rights of man and achieve total equality and freedom... culminated in the common folk beheading King Louis XVI and vicious mob rule.

Thankfully, our framers were wiser than their French counterparts were. Drawing upon history from ancient Greece and Rome, John Adams warned posterity to Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself.

Compatriot Benjamin Franklin likewise admonished: Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote! Thomas Jefferson agreed: A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.

Due to these well-grounded fears, our Founders prudently crafted a government that combined elements of monarchy (the presidency), aristocracy (the Senate), and democracy (the House), while further dividing power between state and federal governments (federalism). As good government requires checks and balances against the excesses of each type of governmentand against human nature itselfthey devised a selection process for the president to moderate the passions of the voting populace (the Electoral College). Make no mistake: our government was designed to be a constitutional representative republic with a democratic election process.

Seems to me... the Democrats tend to revel in their own willful ignorance since children aren't taught any of this in public schools anymore.

Here's a comment I made on a past thread.
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The problem I see is that the Christian ideals of the American founders and forefathers that define freedom in the American Constitution have been rejected and forgotten in favor of a more tangible and self serving ideology. The American forefathers could not predict how the entrepreneurial habit of placing a price upon all that God had provided freely would ultimately and proudly enslave the entire planet in the name of capitalism and profit. Trump is and always has been a very savvy American businessman but hes not a Globalist Socialist. Trump does not want to sacrifice American sovereignty for the sake of global economics and consolidation of powers. Trump is a proud individualist who understands the balance of powers within a highly competitive free and global marketplace. The problem with liberals is, they keep pushing the limits till theres no sense of right or wrong. Then the conservatives have to put things back in order while the liberals deny accountability. I miss the days when folks would debate the difference between democrats and republicans... Back when it was hard to tell the difference because both upheld the Constitution...My point is that the argument between liberals and conservatives wasnt always a Democrat vs Republican issue, but those lines have definitely been drawn today. The irony is that our forefathers penned our Constitution and put our governments checks and balances in place in order to counter precisely whats happening now. You see, the only way to "reform" America is to destroy the constitution and the Christian ideals that it defends. I tell you the truth, most immigrants that go through the process of entering this country "legally" are now more American than most indigenous liberals... by virtue of the fact that they are taught the definition of "Representative Constitutional Republic" and sworn to defend the same. Whats truly at the heart of all political debate is morality. Whats always at stake is who's going to possess the power and authority to either enforce it, or simply acknowledge and defend it. "Climate Change" is really a common sense example if you think about it. How many laws already exist to stop big industry from polluting the planet? Why do we need a new faction of world government and new laws to enforce the laws that already exist? What were up against is an old foe disguised as democracy. The "progressive liberals" only want power, authority and complete control.... just like all Socialists/Communists do. In order to gain that kind of authority the first thing they have to do is get rid of religion....... and guns.... and try to convince you that "its for your own good" because "youre helpless and dont know any better". The Obamas, Clintons, Gores and the rest want to JOIN THE EU! The reason Trump wants to bring business back home, make America "self sufficient" again, and get out of this world trade/deficit scenario is because... WE CAN... and we are the only thing stopping the federal reserve, the UN, and the EU from implementing a world wide currency! The reason the Democrats hate Trump so much is because they know if he's allowed to "drain the swamp" then HE WILL BALANCE THE BUDGET! He's ALREADY bringing our troops and businesses back home. The democrats cant allow Trump to do his job because it would ultimately mean the end of theirs. Socialist equals Globalist in todays debt driven economy/society, and the Progressive Socialist Democrats would rather join the EU than see America thrive in a free market. Make no mistake, this is not just a war of "political ideologies". The progressives want to rule globally with one bank and one currency... DEBT! Think about it... were already numbered and already in debt from the day were born, the Socialist Democrats are just trying to maintain "status quo". Some people sadly believe that governance is all about profit and economic influence... that is very self serving and short sighted. There arent enough resources on the face of this planet to cover the $190 trillion of global debt were in. Dont you see? Our greed and profit driven ideologies have outgrown the tangible reality of life. Debt is all The Powers That Be have left to cling to, and many of them already entertain concepts like Mass Chemical Sterilization and Child Permits based upon working class. Why? Because 1% of the population owns 50% of the worlds wealth and 30% of the population owns 97% of the worlds wealth. However, no one knows better than They that the ever increasing debt is unsustainable because their profits are based upon projected interest, but the population is outgrowing their resources. Socialists/Communists have always advanced the idea that a singular world government should own and control the entire worlds resources, thereby maintaining authority over the population. I fear that America is the only true bastion of freedom left in the world, but even so if debt driven greed is not brought to heel, then soon it wont matter if youre a Democrat or Republican.
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Freedom and morality are not separate issues! Compulsory acceptance of the fact that everyone is different is a consequence of freedom; We don't all have to be the same to agree upon it. However, competitive animosity tends to distract us from that agreement... In fact, emotional investment in competition will take precedence. To me, there seems to be a premeditated turning away from the natural concept of commonality that our Creator intended. How can we possibly come together in agreement if there is no moral standard? How will we ever see "eye to eye" when what drives the competition is an opposition to any Christian moral standard?

Love does not conquer all... truth does, and you can't have one without the other.

""Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.""

John Adams

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The Constitution can not last forever, NOTHING lasts for ever...even no November rain....

And our founding fathers weren't pillars of morality. They evidently didnt read the Commandments, namely thou shalt not commit adultry.

George Washington had more affairs than ANYBODY in US History, Kennedy was nothing....

So, your building the future and eternity of America on the backs of people who broke morality rules THEMSELVES when they wrote them. As well as owning slaves.

Just stop with the rhetoric, The Constitution was a great starting point, but as times and technology and science change, so too must how a country governs,.


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Precisely why this thread is about "PROPHECY" Dom! Enjoy your future...

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But your arguments about it involve discussing the constitution, as if the constitution and God go hand in hand.

You may not realize it but you Christian views are all tied into your conservative views, and constitutional views.

Common sense= Jesus in no way would have been pro gun. NO DOUBT about it, he'd be against it, being he advised turning the other cheek...he didnt say pull out your gun and shoot back.

So twisty the cartoon character is in full action here

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35And he said to them, When I sent you out with no moneybag or knapsack or sandals, did you lack anything? They said, Nothing. 36He said to them, But now let the one who has a moneybag take it, and likewise a knapsack. And let the one who has no sword sell his cloak and buy one. 37For I tell you that this Scripture must be fulfilled in me: And he was numbered with the transgressors. For what is written about me has its fulfillment. 38And they said, Look, Lord, here are two swords. And he said to them, It is enough.

"And he was numbered with the transgressors." means Christ and Christianity has always been at odds with man's law and will. Christ made his disciples enemies of Rome. Read your Bible Dom...

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(Matthew 26, 26:52): "Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword."

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If you carry a gun, somebody might take it away from you and shoot you with it

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Those who "LIVE" by the sword shall die by the sword... GOD'S SWORD!
Vengeance is the Lords! There's NOTHING in the Bible that suggests ANYONE should just lay down and die before their enemies... If one who lives by the sword is intent upon your life, you don't offer him your throat! If that were true, we would have destroyed ourselves long ago...

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Yes the Bible does Mention it. Matthew 52

How come i know nothing about The Bible, but I always know more than you? LMAO

in addition to Matthew 26:52

Genesis 9:6
Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man his blood will be shed; for in His own image God has made mankind.

Exodus 21:12
Whoever strikes and kills a man must surely be put to death.

Revelation 13:10
"If anyone is destined for captivity, into captivity he will go; if anyone is to die by the sword, by the sword he must be killed." Here is a call for the perseverance and faith of the saints.

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You know, I do actually try to stay on point with you Dom...

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YOU? stay on point? When? Where? Doing my Vinny Babarino impression

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Yeah' Lol, that looks really good on you wink

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War on the Poor
By Hal Lindsey

Over the last few years, something awful happened in America. The war on poverty morphed into a vast, shameless, and cruel war on poor people themselves. Governments created a regulatory environment where the well-heeled thrive, but the poor haven’t a chance. People without the means to go to college are forced to help pay back the student loans of the affluent. People who can’t afford electric vehicles are forced to help rich people pay for their Teslas.

The government subsidizes companies for manufacturing electric cars, and it gives tax breaks to their investors. The federal government and most states also get involved at the point of sale, giving large tax breaks and other incentives to people who buy electric.

But even with all that help from the government, the average electric car still winds up costing $66,000 dollars. That’s about 40% more than the average gas-powered car. Yet in August, California passed a bill banning the sale of gas cars by the year 2035. Several other states expect to follow.
Some say the price will go down as manufacturing becomes more efficient. They also say that technology will remove present barriers to going electric, including short fuel range and long times to recharge. With such improvements, they say that by 2035 everyone will choose electric over gas anyway. All that may be so. But if true, why does government need to intervene? Let the marketplace decide. If electric becomes cheap enough and efficient enough, people will choose it.

But what if it doesn’t become cheap and efficient? What if a weak power grid and not enough generating capacity make electric cars unsustainable? What if the communists running China decide to get tough with America and slow down or cut off the supply lines of rare earth minerals needed for the manufacture of electric vehicles? The effect will be to force the poor out of all personal automobiles. That cuts them off from countless opportunities to escape poverty. It keeps them poor. And it doesn’t help anyone else either.

Jonathon Tobin recently wrote about the new California law in a commentary for Newsweek. He said, “This ban strikes one more blow against the poor and working class. It panders to the fears of the most educated and richest people about global warming while ignoring the needs and the welfare of those on the lower end of the economic spectrum.”

I’m not against electric cars. They will probably become an important part of America’s energy future. You can buy those cars now, but that does not mean their problems have been solved. As a society, we need to be planning for reliable power generation with which to charge those massive car batteries. We also need to figure out how to build such batteries without simultaneously creating toxic waste dumps for our children and grandchildren to clean up.

Though I’m not against electric cars, I am against laws that force the poor to subsidize the rich in their attempt to make them feel better about themselves. And we’re just beginning to see how far that will go. Fear of global warming is about to change all our lives in profound ways. For instance, meat may soon become like fur — a luxury only a few can afford. And those few will be looked down on as enemies of the environment. After all, cows burp, and we’re told those burps are a big source of greenhouse gases and global warming.

That’s why they are already advocating that we abstain from certain foods — just as 1 Timothy 4:3 said would happen in the “later times.”
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1Now the Holy Spirit tells us clearly that in the last times some will turn away from the true faith; they will follow deceptive spirits and teachings that come from demons. 2These people are hypocrites and liars, and their consciences are dead.a

3They will say it is wrong to be married and wrong to eat certain foods. But God created those foods to be eaten with thanks by faithful people who know the truth. 4Since everything God created is good, we should not reject any of it but receive it with thanks. 5For we know it is made acceptable by the word of God and prayer.))

Just a thought.... All this "One sex, one race" they're trying to propagate could easily become the justification for rendering marriage obsolete....
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It’s important for us to take note of the hypocrisy and deception shown by our leaders. Jesus told us to watch for certain end-time signs, and this touches on several of them. But He also said to “look up.” Make sure that your perspective does not center on bad news or ugliness, but on the God who loves and cares for you.

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We are truly in the last days and what Jesus said to watch for are happening now. Unfortunately many people never read the bible so they don't know the signs. Just as it was in the days of Noah, life goes on until sudden destruction comes in one hour. Too late to repent after the door is closed.

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Hey there Everett! Good to see you again smile

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If...WW1, the Great Depression, Stalin, Hitler and the 3d reich were not the end times...neither are the current.
As they say...history does not repeat itself...but it rhymes.

Western Civilization has "cycled" back to a disturbing rhyme that has repeated many times over and again since the ice last melted. Just as calls for the "end times." Over and over and over.
There may be some bad times ahead for a lot of people, but end times?....not nigh but naw.

It's a song site. Why dont we leave the discussions of end times and biblical gloom for sites dedicated to such? It engenders intensely divisive viewpoints.

Martin

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Because they don't like me much at those sites either lol...

Besides, I still think you're wrong smile

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No one can know the day or hour other than God the Father but we can know the signs of the end times, and they are all falling into place. If man and nations would repent the end could be postponed, but that is not likely to happen. As man and nations continue to push God out of their lives and accept evil into society, God's patience will be tried to the point He will have no choice but act or else apologize to Sodom and Gomorra.

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Here's a stupid question... If America is trying to kill the "fossil fuel and nuclear energy" industries, then why are we supporting Iran's endeavors...?
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From a biblical perspective, few things could be more dangerous for a nation than to facilitate an existential threat against Israel. “Existential threat” means a threat to the very existence of something. Reserve Brig. General Amir Avivi, Founder of the Israel Defense and Security Forum, recently called the expected restart of the Iran nuclear agreement a “future existential threat to Israel.”

According to the Bible, God will protect Israel from all “existential threats.” In that sense, I’m not concerned about Israel. It will survive. But I am concerned about the United States. Why would we make an agreement guaranteeing a nuclear Iran by 2031? Why would we do that to Israel? Why would we do it to the world, or to ourselves?

This does not mean that I condone everything Israel does, all the laws it passes, or leaders it elects. God said that He would first draw the Israeli people back to the Promised Land, and then He would bring about a miraculous change in their hearts. That national change of heart will happen in the last of the last days. As a nation today, they are no more God-fearing than the United States. But God promised to look after Israel even before their national transformation.

Those who dismiss the Bible’s perspective, should still understand the danger of renewing the Iran nuclear agreement. Iran’s ally, North Korea, has already shown its ability to build hydrogen bombs. It has also developed intercontinental ballistic missiles capable of reaching anywhere in the United States.

North Korea is a failed state. They have poured everything into a weapons technology whose use would mean their utter destruction. Because they do not want to commit national suicide, they are left with weapons having only one military use — bluff. But there is also an economic use. Such technology can be sold.

A renewal of the nuclear deal will give Iran vast amounts of money. That will allow them to increase their terror operations around the world. And, ironically, it will give them the means to buy the very technologies we do not want them to have. North Korea’s desperation makes it a ready seller.

At least nine nations have a stockpile of nuclear weapons. Fifty-nine other nations are known to have the material, means, and technology needed to build such weapons. Since their initial use in 1945, the nations have refrained from using them.

But Iran is different. It proclaims itself the “Islamic Republic of Iran.” Its Supreme Leader is a religious leader. The devotion he demands is a passionate, religious devotion. Iran sees itself in as part of a religious war where suicide bombers are the norm. While many faiths believe in coming judgment, Iran wants to push things along. In 2019, senior Iranian Ayatollah Mohammad Mehdi Mirbagheri said that in order for the Shia Muslim messiah to appear, “We must engage in widespread fighting with the West.”

The world needs Iran’s oil right now, but that need does not justify a nuclear-armed Iran. The Bible says that in the future, Iran will be one of the leaders of a major war against Israel. That war will not succeed because God will intervene on Israel’s behalf. But does the United States want to be one of the nations that helps arm Iran for such a war?
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Genesis 12:1
The Call of Abram

1)The Lord had said to Abram, “Go from your country, your people and your father’s household to the land I will show you.

2)""“I will make you into a great nation,

and I will bless you;

I will make your name great,

and you will be a blessing.

3)I will bless those who bless you,

and whoever curses you I will curse;

and all peoples on earth

will be blessed through you.”""

Israel is the only nation on Earth with a title deed to their own land, by God. This Old testament passage, from Genesis no less, is not only prophetic... it's an eternal covenant between God and Israel; "I will bless those who bless you,and whoever curses you I will curse..."
The Jews have been the most persecuted people in history, have you ever stopped to wonder why? America seriously needs to watch its step in these final days...

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The United States will likely be the first nation struck by a missile carrying hydrogen bombs, take your choice which country will shoot it, Iran, Russia, China, North Korea. The USA must be crippled and unable to respond to defend Israel or what ever country that they have as allies. How close this is to happening is any ones guess, but the more the US arms its potential enemies, like Iran, the sooner it will happen. The bible is history written in advance and it will come to be true.

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Or the "Bernie O'Biden" regime will somehow get its way and the rest of the world will simply OWN the United States...

Ezekiel 7-19
They will throw their silver into the streets,
and their gold will seem unclean.
Their silver and gold cannot save them
in the day of the wrath of the LORD.
They cannot satisfy their appetites
or fill their stomachs with wealth,
for it became the stumbling block
that brought their iniquity.

Revelation 6-5
When He (the Lamb) broke open the third seal, I heard the third living creature call out, “Come.” I looked, and behold, a black horse [of famine]; and the rider had in his hand a pair of scales (a balance). 6And I heard something like a voice in the midst of the four living creatures saying, “A quart of wheat for a denarius (a day’s wages), and three quarts of barley for a denarius; and do not damage the oil and the wine.”

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A brief word...


....according to Acts 2:17 the last days began at Pentecost, when the Church was founded. No one knows how long it will last. Jesus specifically told the apostles it wasn't their business to know. Acts 1:7.

All who have ignored this clear counsel have been proven wrong and only bring the Good News into disrepute.

It's natural to look at modern moral abominations and
wonder how long it will continue. But making predictions and linking political leaders with them is not only a waste of time, but showing disrespect for the government, which Christians are commanded not to do. Titus 3:1, 2 among other texts. (This is especially hard for me, a born lampooner.)

There were about 400 years of silence between when Jacob and his family went down to Egypt and when Yahweh delivered the Jews through Moses.

There was about the same length of time from when Malachi was written to when John the Baptist appeared announcing the Messiah. No prophetic proclamations in between.

It's been nearly 2000 years since the Apostle John died at the end of the 1st century.

But this is the big one. It'll happen suddenly and take everyone by surprise...just like the flood, and Sodom and Gomorrah.

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You really should study Revelation CG... The last days are coming, and they are only limited to seven years for a very important prophetic reason. But, honestly, I think you already know that. Nobody as "knowledgeable" as you can possibly read those passages from Acts and not see the prophetic correlation to both Daniel and Revelation.

The good news is that Immanuel is coming to put an end to those who would destroy the Earth and all men with it. If that offends you... I don't care.

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I'm very familiar with Revelation. The phrase "last days" doesn’t appear there. You may be thinking of the Tribulation.

You seem to be saying we're living in the last days
and also saying the last days are coming.

The phrase appears around a dozen times in the NT, always referring to events taking place then.

This world is definitely marching toward its end. When the Tribulation is to begin, we don't know. We can watch world events and see mankind slip further into degradation, keeping Jesus' return in mind and living accordingly.

But that's all we can do. Continuing to make false predictions only brings reproach on the Good News.

And don't forget...according to Deuteronomy 18:20-22, false prophets were to be executed. It's serious business.

I'm not offended by what you're saying. That's not my point. I'm concerned you're misrepresenting the Bible.

Think about it.


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("""You seem to be saying we're living in the last days
and also saying the last days are coming....""")

No, that's what you said in your last post...

("""....according to Acts 2:17 the last days began at Pentecost""")

The last days and the seven years of tribulation are the same thing. Without prophets we wouldn't have a Bible, or the promise of God's word. The entire Bible is prophetic Robert, just skip to the back and see how it ends...

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Everett said we were in the last days You said "final days". No difference.

Acts 2:17 said the last days were already in motion at Pentecost. Grab a concordance...the phrase appears often in the NT referring to events then current.

Your last paragraph has no bearing on my point. The Bible IS prophetic. We're not. I suspect we believe much the same things about the Tribulation. The difference is this: Jews in the 1st century were correct about many OT Messianic prophecies. But not all of them. Scholars have learned much since the Reformation. But they're still human.

Be careful of teaching what hasn't happened as fact, especially in specifics. And avoid partisan politics.

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Originally Posted by couchgrouch
Jews in the 1st century were correct about many OT Messianic prophecies. But not all of them. Scholars have learned much since the Reformation. But they're still human.

That's where we greatly differ Robert. The Bible is 100% accurate and true, if one word is wrong then it's all wrong! I just focus on remaining faithful as the Spirit guides me, and I try to be very careful not to bring God down to my level...

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Probably with the TV series kung Fu, when Caine reminisced back to his temple. Be soft yet hard.
I can't say I like the left or right politically or one certain belief.
But I have never seen a time when beliefs and politics has divided people.

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The last days in God's salvation plan started with the crucifixion of Jesus but the last of the last days could not start the final countdown until the Jews returned to Israel, which happened in 1948. Jesus said that this generation will not pass away before the end will come. A generation is 70 to 80 years so we must be getting close. Do we start counting from 1948 or from 1967 when they finally got Jerusalem back. Who knows for sure. Jesus said what it would be like just before He comes to rapture His church, and all He said is happening now. I'm not naming the day or hour but we are in the season of the end, but as in the days of Noah, people are not heeding what the bible says because many never read the bible. Even some Christians are not anxious for the return of Jesus because they are enjoying living in this world of sin. We are in the world but not off the world. We see the forming of world government which the anti christ will control in the end times. That period of tribulation will run for seven years AFTER the church is gone.We have a little over seven years left till the world government wants to be in place, 2030.

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OK, I said, avoid politics but this morning I read the Feds raided MyPillow founder Mike Lindell.

Question:

Now that they're well on the way of ridding the world of one annoying commercial, is there any way we can get the Feds to go after the villains behind the commercial that always runs during Wheel? The one where the lady dances "The Floss"?

Truly heinous.


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As trite as the floss dance is, in terms of annoyance, I don't personally regard it nearly as grating as the pillow commercials.
I think that you are being overly critical of the WOF dancer mom.

Disclaimer:
I dont watch WOF. I had to google the commercial.

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Originally Posted by R&M
Probably with the TV series kung Fu, when Caine reminisced back to his temple. Be soft yet hard.
I can't say I like the left or right politically or one certain belief.
But I have never seen a time when beliefs and politics has divided people.

That's exactly right! For some, politics has replaced religion. For others, religion justifies anarchy. Yet, through it all, the Word of God remains true and steadfast. It's satisfying somehow, not to be limited by denominational dogma or divisive political trends.

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This is not funny... The FBI under "Bernie O'Biden" is out of control! Seriously, consider the precedent this sets. Using the highest law enforcement agency in the country to take out political opposition... I don't even like Mike Lindell, who in their right mind would ever buy a $250.00 pair of house slippers? But, Christian or not, this is still very wrong!

https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/13/politics/mike-lindell-phone-seized-fbi-subpoena-my-pillow/index.html

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Originally Posted by Everett Adams
We have a little over seven years left till the world government wants to be in place, 2030.
Where did you hear that?

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Don't recall but I've read it a number of times, that is what WEF wants, whether that is true or not, I don't know. I believe NATO wants that too. At my age I may not be here to see it.

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Holy Crap! I didn't even know this was a thing...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Economic_Forum

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