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Interesting thread.
I'm almost with Big Jim on this one but not quite. I consider myself Agnostic. I used to be religious Agnostic. Went to church but really doubted there is a God.

As I got older, watched my kids die, learned about death, Started seeing the world around me through blood stained glasses I come to the conclusion that if there is a God he sure made a hell of a mess of things.
Now today I feel even stronger that a God is unlikely. Just look at our own Galaxy, Millions of stars and we are but a speck in the whole mess.
The condition of humankind as we know it is terrible, Kids with Autism, Kids with all kinds of diseases right out of the gate, never having a chance at a decent life.
Murders, rapes, slave trade, Wars, serial killers. It never ends, goes on and on.
Then look at the way we dehumanize each other. My own ancestors died in a Civil War Prisoner of war camp, Andersonville, Georgia. 45,000 men were held there and nearly one third of them died of disease and starvation. This is what we do to each other.

Look at the way the largest religion in the world treats anyone who does not believe as they do. They murder them by the hundreds of thousands.
Nazi Germany Killed Millions, where was the victim's God when all that was going on.

Then we have the Catholic Church and it's pedophiles, Jim Jones, David Koresh, It goes on and on.
John Wayne Gacey, Jeffery Dahmer, and so on

Personally I think mankind is basically evil. There is just too much misery in the world for good to be the common thread.
We even kill to live. It is animals but we kill them non the less.

I sit outside at night sometimes and look at the heavens and wonder if this is all there is. I think not. We are probably not alone in the Universe. I can't help but believe there must be intelligent life out there somewhere.

If there is I sure hope they are having a better time of it than we here on earth are because other than the fact life can be good for some folks I think most of us are miserable pathetic creatures that have the unfortunate circumstance of knowing some day in the near future we will cease to exist.
And that just sucks.