Lol...."But to say without such disobedience we wouldn't attempt to live moral lives, is like saying unless I cheat on my wife, I can't attempt to be faithful to her."

not quite what I said but I do like the simile.


what I said was firstly........if man had no conscious, self awareness, we would not be Homo Sapiens
.......We would not be "wise" man. That is a simple fact.

How exactly we got there (ie "post Garden") has a simple answer for a Bible literalist but it is far more complex if you examine civilization before the Bible.
Best history which is "proximal in geography" comes from Sumeria, where many concepts and it appears, some early Bible stories originated.
Noah's Ark, Jonah and the Whale, concepts of heaven and hell. etc etc can be read in their writings which are definitely dated before the Bible

Then archeoligical evidence of Hominid activity around the world for hundreds of thousands of years shows us "outside Eden" for a very long time.
Then physical evidence via Mitochondrial DNA takes us back to a "Genetic Eve" who is all of humanity's common female ancestor....some 300,000 years ago

Perhaps a lot of this was passed over in Genesis by its authors...??

So the line you took issue with was that we use our conscious awareness to navigate our way through life, sifting through all kinds of events including the concept of right and wrong.
There we(I think most of us) try to do the right thing according to the values we set for ourselves...which the fault filled beings we are tend to be different if someone is watching.
So the idea of the serpent is a powerful one. That sets the outside boundries of evil, while God sets the realm of of good.

But I took the tack of thanking God for our conscious awareness, our desire to sing and rhyme.....

In the end, my song is intended as provocative art...think about it

And you did...and made me think more

If writing ever becomes work I think I'm going to have to stop