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Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
Sure, you zoomed in on one of my songs,, with your famous, "you should write songs people can relate to."

Either knowing or not knowing, its one song, and your wrong about it anyway.

You were given several songs after, and many already here, but chose not to say it there, because you knew you couldn't.

Your calculating, not supporting

The gist is that you are drawing attention to the shortcomings of how I write.

While on the subject of writing, could you re-phrase whatever is stated here into something comprehensible?

Gotta go. Will check back tomorrow...maybe.

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[VERSE 1]
When we parted ways, that was long overdue.
All we did was argue, there was no me and you.
Years went by ,I found new love and moved on with my life.
I quickly forgot you, and all the endless strife

So first of all, this is so dull and unpoetic, and not a single good line in it.

All your trying to do with it is get to yourr chorus.

Songs ate like women they need foreplay.

Its not a bad opening line, because it gets right to it, you know what happened.

But its just so far and away from good writing.

Hope that helps

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The verse wasn't an attempt to win a Nobel Prize.
It described a situation and a state of mind...reasonably well.

Your critique style is...


Your sister is ugly.
She could be pretty.
But she's ugly.


That's empty and goes nowhere.
It just serves the purpose of delivering a diminishing insult.

You put a song up and I gave it a genuine critique.
You are thin skinned, and these empty insults are your reflexive coping mechanism.

Don't expect an adult to take it seriously.

Gotta go

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
The verse wasn't an attempt to win a Nobel Prize.
It described a situation and a state of mind...reasonably well.

You critique style is...


Your sister is ugly.
She could be pretty.
But she's ugly.


That's empty and goes nowhere.
It just serves the purpose of delivering a diminishing insult.

You put a song up and I gave it a genuine critique.
You are thin skinned, and these empty insults are your reflexive coping mechanism.

Don't expect an adult to take it seriously.

Gotta go

But dont you think to give a harsh, genuine critique, you should be better at writing thsn this, piece?

I mean how do you know,what's good if you haven't written good?

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I don't think that's the real issue here.

I don't claim to be a great writer. I claim to enjoy writing. However good I am is however good I am.

I think that if you were actually better at writing,

all these insults would not be going on. Neither would all the self-proclaimed greatness of your own songs be going on.

People would compliment your writing often enough that you would be satisfied with that.

But they don't, and you cope with it by tossing out empty insults.

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And you think the quality of the song in any way matters who responds here?

Ive posted excerpts from some if the greatest songs ever written, and gotten no response here.

Nobody is here.

If the few active members could come together for a common cause, it might be something.

But im already considered the bad guy here, all ive ever done was talk music here.

Lack of response has nothing to do with the quality, and you know it

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We’re all built from the same dust and dreams,
Different roads, but the same means.
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Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
Lack of response has nothing to do with the quality, and you know it

There is truth in that.
But the problem is that you are in complete denial about the causative factors. And it does not look like that will ever change.

So rather than fixing it, you are going to continue the pattern of calling anyone who disagrees with you a talent-less hack or some other such insult.

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its robot songs create a fake person whatever you like to call yourself and get comments on FB


We’re all built from the same dust and dreams,
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Originally Posted by bennash
its robot songs create a fake person whatever you like to call yourself and get comments on FB

There is a real good idea for Dom.
Create an AI avatar and put your songs up on Ytube, Fbook, Instagram, X...and see what kind of responses come from people who are not part of a "social club."

Compliments or criticism from strangers with no motivation not to say how they truly feel, is the most reliable kind of feedback that can be had. That is what focus-groups are about.

I think I may do that myself.
Great suggestion Ben.

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Originally Posted by bennash
its robot songs create a fake person whatever you like to call yourself and get comments on FB

There is a real good idea for Dom.
Create an AI avatar and put your songs up on Ytube, Fbook, Instagram, X...and see what kind of responses come from people who are not part of a "social club."

Compliments or criticism from strangers with no motivation not to say how they truly feel, is the most reliable kind of feedback that can be had. That is what focus-groups are about.

I think I may do that myself.
Great suggestion Ben.

The general audience is really all that matters, but you won't find regular listeners on sites like these.

You find people doing the same thing you are.

Youtube has some of the best indie singer songwriters with videos that have 49 views, and three comments.

Again not accurate

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This guy is getting more attention, but it took him decades.

Ive been a fan for a long time. And met him in New york

2 k views for this song is a travesty
He should be a big time artist.

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Dom,

I truthfully don't like your songs.
I don't like your typical subject matter and the lines that you quote, that light you up, and you say, make them great...don't even strike me as good, much less great.

So, if I comment on them and want to keep you from attacking me, I have to lie.
If I don't comment on them, you rattle on about how I am boycotting them and leading a conspiracy...which I am not. I have turned down two PM invitations to harass you.

There is another personality in the past who occasionally put up songs that burnt my ears. I could not find something in them to compliment. Rather than lie, I just left them alone.

The difference between you and him is that he never accused me of leading a conspiracy to boycott them. He never said anything anti-social to anyone.

The moral of the story...
If someone doesn't like your song, respond to the crit once and move on.
They aren't awarding Grammys here.

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Dom,

I truthfully don't like your songs.
I don't like your typical subject matter and the lines that you quote, that light you up, and you say, make them great...don't even strike me as good, much less great.

So, if I comment on them and want to keep you from attacking me, I have to lie.
If I don't comment on them, you rattle on about how I am boycotting them and leading a conspiracy...which I am not. I have turned down two PM invitations to harass you.

There is another personality in the past who occasionally put up songs that burnt my ears. I could not find something in them to compliment. Rather than lie, I just left them alone.

The difference between you and him is that he never accused me of leading a conspiracy to boycott them. He never said anything anti-social to anyone.

The moral of the story...
If someone doesn't like your song, respond to the crit once and move on.
They aren't awarding Grammys here.

That's pk if you dont like my songs .

But I find it hard to belive you like any song here. But like the people better.

I dont think we come hetlre and expect to hear songs that we like.

We have the Beatles and Paul Simon and Billy Joel and Springsteen and tom petty to like.

You dont like Springsteen either, so that kinda puts your not liking my songs in perspective.

But your not coming here to find great music you just love.

You come as a fellow songwriter looking for feedback, cause you write and want to know what others think.

If you ignore them or lie to them, ypu ate doing them a disservice, and I guess you expect the same.

If I review somebody, I in no way think this is going to me my favorite songwriter to listen to.

I hate nost music on the radio, I hate alot more mud7c than I like.

Theres a difference between acknowledging what somebody is trying to do, and loving it

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