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Originally Posted by Rob B.
Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
As a follow up..

427 to 1

The American people are a dog with a bone now

I already wrote why all of this doesn't matter. You can't release files of an ongoing investigation.


It signals Trump that phones are ringing.

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Now my arm is hurting time to call the Army doctor again , Got any Zantac . Nope not for you. Thanks for your service. Nice big picture of Trump , with lightening he looks like Jesus on that wall. I told some vet next to me , does he look like Jesus ? Yes he does

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
A clear and inarguable reference to Trumpenstein.
Clearly political bashing.

Marty, you claim I’m bashing Trump in this song. I’ve gone over my lines again and again.
- In the song I never named Trump
- It doesn’t reference Trump in any Trump-specific events, scandals, quotes, or controversies
- It doesn't contain language unique to him (“MAGA,” “orange,” “fake news,” etc.)
- It doesn’t accuse any identifiable person of a specific crime

Can you point out where you think I’m bashing Trump?

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Originally Posted by Rob B.
Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
A clear and inarguable reference to Trumpenstein.
Clearly political bashing.

Marty, you claim I’m bashing Trump in this song. I’ve gone over my lines again and again.
- In the song I never named Trump
- It doesn’t reference Trump in any Trump-specific events, scandals, quotes, or controversies
- It doesn't contain language unique to him (“MAGA,” “orange,” “fake news,” etc.)
- It doesn’t accuse any identifiable person of a specific crime

Can you point out where you think I’m bashing Trump?

Rob.


I have already.

EXPLANATION 'A'
The matter has been reviewed, reasons given, and the conclusions incontrovertible. As stated before, there are no avenues for appeal.

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Rob.
I have already.
The matter has been reviewed, reasons given, and the conclusions incontrovertible. As stated before, there are no avenues for appeal.

Got it — so you can’t actually point to any Trump-bashing in the lyrics.
Instead, you’re assuming I must be doing it because of things you think I’ve said in the past.
That means your claim about the song was baseless from the start.

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Rob

I'm not going to deal in school girl hide-and-seek lies. I've clearly explained this in this thread alone. Reread it.

Re: Explanation A

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Rob

I'm not going to deal in school girl hide-and-seek lies. I've clearly explained this in this thread alone. Reread it.

Re: Explanation A

Marty, all of this back-and-forth seems aimed at tearing down my thread and my song. From the start, your claims about “Trump-bashing” have been baseless. That's typical Marty-like.

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Explanation A

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Aviso...Even if you veil Trump bashings as lyrics, that opens the door to Marty's counterpoint.
Re: the Marty Codes 2025

Marty, we agreed you would stay out of my threads when they’re not about Trump. Yet here you are.

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Verse 1 is a trump bash Rob. We both know that. And this is your little hide and seek game. We both know that.

Understand the following,
If you write a lovely song dedicated to your wife or a lovely tribute dedicated to someone that you know that passed away.. I will leave it alone.
However, if you post a song that has even the slightest whiff of political stank about it, then I will unilaterally decide if it is open season on retort and rebuke.

Freedom of speech. You're free to put whatever you want up. I'm free to comment on it at will.
Having said that, even though I think political speech is a forum killer, I enjoy engaging in it and have enjoyed engaging in this opportunity that you provided to talk about the actions of a king that overlays Trump precisely. The coincidence of that begets other opinions.

Thank you for this post.

Marty

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Verse 1 is a trump bash Rob. We both know that. And this is your little hide and seek game. We both know that.

Understand the following,
If you write a lovely song dedicated to your wife or a lovely tribute dedicated to someone that you know that passed away.. I will leave it alone.
However, if you post a song that has even the slightest whiff of political stank about it, then I will unilaterally decide if it is open season on retort and rebuke.

Freedom of speech. You're free to put whatever you want up. I'm free to comment on it at will.
Having said that, even though I think political speech is a forum killer, I enjoy engaging in it and have enjoyed engaging in this opportunity that you provided to talk about the actions of a king that overlays Trump precisely. The coincidence of that begets other opinions.

Thank you for this post.

Marty

Verse 1? Come on, Marty — you’re kidding me:
- “He once said, ‘Open up the files’”: Could be any politician calling for transparency.
- “Back before the crown was his”: A common metaphor for gaining power; even the German people refer to Chancellor Merz metaphorically as a “king.”
- “Before the power changed his view”: A universal theme: leaders promising openness, then becoming guarded. Presidents, prime ministers, kings, CEOs — all have this trope.

Where exactly am I bashing anyone? Your claim is baseless. Others in this forum see it the same way; you’re the only one interpreting this as Trump‑bashing.
And for the record, disagreeing with your interpretation doesn’t justify personal insults.
You’re free to comment at will — but please don’t make promises to stay out of non‑Trump threads and then break them, and don’t turn disagreements into personal attacks.

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Rob,

Do you really think that you are going to render me lost in the trees, unable to see the forest?

In this case, it only takes one to tango. I don't need your permission to dance.

If I unilaterally decide that you are bashing Trump or making a political post, I do not require your permission to respond to it.

In addition to that you are trying to play this little cat and mouse game where you veil your political ramblings, behind the pretense that they are just allegorical fictional characters. They arent. We both know it.

So I've got you trying to bind me to an agreement while trying to mouse-trap me at the same time.
You dont have that sway here.


Let's take it further...
For the sake of argument, let's say that you really believe what you are saying and V1 was never intended to be a veiled Trump bash.

But then, I look at it and see direct parallels, that lo and behold, look coincidentally but unmistakably like Rachel Maddow regurgitations. Just based on the coincident appearance I will define the argument and offer counterpoints. I'm saving Democracy.

Marty is not bound by any agreement wherby Rob grants (or not) permission to Marty to respond to allegorical content that appears to be current political propaganda...or anything else.

You post something and I decide its political, then its fair game for comment and retort.

Now, this is coming back over on itself many times now. Time to close out.

Be aware that I will comment on things that I choose to comment on.

And once again, this opportunity to explore the many bi-partisan friends of Epstein with you has been enjoyable.

Marty

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Follow up to last..

And Rob
think about all of those hours that Bill Clinton spent crossing the ocean in the fuselage of "THE LOLITA EXPRESS."
All that time. How might he have occupied himself?
There is no reason to think that Epstein would have offered some entertainment over all those hours, but I still cant help but wonder.

How about Prince Andrew? Also presumed innocent? He said he did nothing.
Do you believe him too?

Interesting stuff. Good chat. wink

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Rob,

Do you really think that you are going to render me lost in the trees, unable to see the forest?

In this case, it only takes one to tango. I don't need your permission to dance.

If I unilaterally decide that you are bashing Trump or making a political post, I do not require your permission to respond to it.

In addition to that you are trying to play this little cat and mouse game where you veil your political ramblings, behind the pretense that they are just allegorical fictional characters. They arent. We both know it.

So I've got you trying to bind me to an agreement while trying to mouse-trap me at the same time.
You dont have that sway here.


Let's take it further...
For the sake of argument, let's say that you really believe what you are saying and V1 was never intended to be a veiled Trump bash.

But then, I look at it and see direct parallels, that lo and behold, look coincidentally but unmistakably like Rachel Maddow regurgitations. Just based on the coincident appearance I will define the argument and offer counterpoints. I'm saving Democracy.

Marty is not bound by any agreement wherby Rob grants (or not) permission to Marty to respond to allegorical content that appears to be current political propaganda...or anything else.

You post something and I decide its political, then its fair game for comment and retort.

Now, this is coming back over on itself many times now. Time to close out.

Be aware that I will comment on things that I choose to comment on.

And once again, this opportunity to explore the many bi-partisan friends of Epstein with you has been enjoyable.

Marty

Marty, you're acting like you're the boss here. Make as many rules as you want. I don't care. I know how to behave. You've shown me time and time again that you don't. I asked you an easy question. Where did I bash anyone in verse 1? You didn't answer that question. You are the only one here claiming I'm bashing Trump. Please show me where the bashing is! Where did I say something bad about President Trump in V1? Simple question Marty.

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