Polly,

I don't know why you keep saying these are MY standards. They are not. They are what I see work and not work. I try to save writers and artists from themselves and yet it is mostly like watching them fly into the glass window they don't see.

Your contention is that there are no other songs out there like this and I am telling you almost EVERY Angry chick song is just like this. They are ALL trying for woman empowerment.They are ALL saying "I'm over you." This is the very forumula of an angry chick song.

I am telling you that you have to get to where you are around more songs and writers. If you did that you would see that it falls into exactly that catagory. Until you do that there is no way I can show you that. But this is exactly the message and frankly almost the same lines I hear on a daily basis, not only in songs sent to me, but in songs that are on writer's nights.

Now, the REM thing doesn't apply because of the tenor of rock and pop music. Country and pop actually switched overall theme in the 90's. Rock, which had started out as "Rock around the clock' and "Let's go to the Hop" continued on with "I Wanna Rock and Roll All Night" morphed into "Smells like teen Spirit" Nirvana, Nine Inch Nails" REM and the like which explored the entire angst attitudes, minor chords, et. The audience was primarily the teen age angsty audience,that wore black nail polish, black make up, and were more grungy. That is what "Alternative" is, Alternative to the mainstream. That morphed into hip hop, rap and heavy rock. I don't know if you listen to much of those messages in that type of music, but they are really not much about having a party. And all that music is totally self contained.

Country, which started out with the "crying in your beer" songs, morphed into the 80's and 90's into "Friend's in Low Places" "Tonight I'm Looking For a Party Crowd" (written by my friend Jimbeau Hinson) Redneck Woman and "Here for the Party."
Even in the somber songs, there was a rope of hope, which is what things like "Independence Day" and "Goodbye Earl" and "Next
Time He Cheats" are about. There is also a great amount of specific details in it which is what I miss in Glynda and your song.

But I am not a judge. I am just an observer. I give my opinion and if people don't take it that is fine.

But with most music, there are many other issues at play. If you believe in that song, as I said, what does it matter what I or anybody thinks. Which is another question I would like to ask everyone that covers the demo question as well as the song.

In Nashville we do full demos on our songs that we pitch not just to get them pitched. We do it because we believe in what we do to a point that we put our money where our mouth is because the songs mean that much to us. We want the best possible presentation any time they are played.

My question to anyone talking about "Why spend the money on demos... what about these plugging companies..... why do you have to go to Nashville.." If you believe so much in your music, why would you care what anybody thinks? It should mean enough to you that you do what makes you satisfied.

Every song you hear on the radio was turned down. Every artist. Every writer. They kept going. They believed in themselves and put that belief into practical application. They got demos.They wrote with a lot of people. They wrote a lot of songs. They made trips or moved to the music centers where higher and higher level people could see and hear them.They did it when they couldn't afford it,when they had financial difficulties, when they had job and family considerations.

If you believe in something, the only person limiting you is YOU.

Make memories, not excuses.

MAB

Last edited by Marc Barnette; 08/04/10 11:20 AM.