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I'm not sure I understand the attitude that if I don't know a particular song it makes me less of a writer or less informed about music. Personally I don't listen to Pop or Rock or whatever it happens to be called in a particular decade. The Alanis song is a typical example. More than likely I have heard the song but didn't really listen because that genre of music holds no appeal to me. I don't listen to it because I don't like it. Why would I listen? I don't want to write it either. I like oldies rock and roll and Country. That's what I listen to. And of course, New Country, changes all the time I like the "New" Country too. I am trying to learn how to write "New" Country. The words as well as the music. So far I haven't done too well with it but I am working on it. The fact that I have only been to one mega concert doesn't make me less of a music lover either. It means I don't like crowds. I can't stand people crushed up against me, the noise, the waiting in line for hours, the traffic. None of it appeals to me. The concert isn't worth the pain. I don't go to Forth of July Fireworks show either, The pain of getting in and out ain't worth it. I was a big Football fan too. I went to ONE Professional football game in my life. The Bears at Soldiers field (1983). I've been to 2 Baseball games Tiger Stadium (1951, lightning almost killed me) and Wrigley Field (1991). None of them were worth the pain getting to them. The only mega event I ever felt worth the pain was seeing Evel Kneivel. Twice. I guess Elvis was worth it but I was sorely disappointed he disrespected the fans in less than good seats. I never would have went a second time. As for music. I listen to it constantly. In the car, working in the garage on my vette, I watch Videos all the time. I even put a radio on my Motorcycle. But I never watch MTV. I can't stand Rap, Hip Hop, and Vulgar displays in language and persons to sell a song. If it can't sell without it it isn't worth watching. I asked my wife about the Alanis song. At first she had no idea what song I was talking about until I said the line "Do you think of me when you F### her. Then she knew exactly what song I was talking about. That's my point. The F word is the only thing she remembered. I watch videos on CMT and GAC. That's it. I liked most of Michael Jackson's early stuff. Even some of the recent stuff. Thriller was amazing. But I don't and won't ever buy one of his albums. I don't like it enough to spend money on it. As for the Alanis song. It was very well done and I can see why it was a mega hit but that I don't care for it or the lyric doesn't make me less a person and I resent that implication. I don't particularly care for Paul McCartney either. But that's mostly because of his politics. There's a lot of songs that give me chills when I hear them. Traveling Soldier by the Dixie Chicks comes to mind and if I had to compare it to "You Oughta Know" By Alanis I'd give the nod to Natalie Maines every time as the song that moves me the most. Despite her politics. And I really like her new hair  Hi Bill  Since I mentioned you after Brian's post that mentioned you, mine as well talk to me. Did not mean to offend you. I wanted to only take bits of your quotes but there were so many that were EXACTLY the point I was making I had to leave it all. Okay I'm bad because I think too much and get off focus when I'm writing or talking but I'll try to stay as on point as direct as I can. That's why I often number things in my posts lol it helps keep me on track. So please don't take the following as insults as hard as that may be, I'm only bothering taking a chance telling you because I like you. If your even dreaming about doing something with your music or forget that but even challenging yourself to do some things I have heard you saying you were trying to do then you should be aware of what I mean. 1. How much music your into or you've seen in your life is completely irrelevant, you are correct.. Unless your life is music, which yours is not (that is clear from everything you've said) so that pretty much answers everything. No need to say more, but will anyway. 2. You are less informed about music. Could limit you as a writer depending on what your trying to do. You said you wanted to do Modern Country, well well well guess what 90% of Modern Country is OLD Rock & Pop. And not the Golden Oldies of Rock n Roll. So you've got off the track along time ago. Do you know the recent number one country song "I Need You Now" by Lady Antebellum? Did you know that there beat, groove,feel, chord changes and bass line are the same as the hit song "Eye In The Sky" by Alan Parsons 1982? I did on the first listen, it's in my world, this is what I know. Now who do you think has a better chance of coming up with a hit or a new song with a VAST array of past hit's elements in them? That's how music/business works. But if that kind of work or goal does not interest you, than feel free to ignore my perfect point. Here's your quote I like the "New" Country too. I am trying to learn how to write "New" Country. The words as well as the music. So far I haven't done too well with it but I am working on it.
I know why you haven't done well so far with it, now you know why also. 3. Another quote: The fact that I have only been to one mega concert doesn't make me less of a music lover either.It doesn't? I don't get the logic behind that at all... May as well say " I skied once in my life but it don't make me less a ski lover"  I watch it all the time on TV" Now I can't even be in a restaurant never mind a concert, but that's these past years, NOT most of my life, all I did was go to shows. Well it was worth the pain of me sleeping outside all night in NYC on the sidewalk to get tickets to see Pink Floyd perform The Wall. See you think you love music until you get near a real music lover.  I'd go to shows two sometimes three a week. That's what lovers of music do...They have to. All the other nights it's PRACTICING Gigging & recording... One night it was up to The Blue Note to see Joe Pass or Jaco Pastorious next week, it's Jethro Tull or Queen. Or EWF at Radio City on & on & on. Every bit of it seeps through everything I do sometime or another, actually constantly. I would go to see Genesis and hear,see & feel Phil Collin's great groove, then it comes out somewhere in my music. And that's just one guy on drums and singing. It's also called "Inspiration" And the more you get the better. 4. Quote: As for the Alanis song. It was very well done and I can see why it was a mega hit but that I don't care for it or the lyric doesn't make me less a person and I resent that implication. I don't particularly care for Paul McCartney either.
On Paul - Well that shouldn't put to big a hole in anybody's popular music game for the last 50 years  Let me shut that wealth of musical resource off... for ANY reason. ***** Nobody said you were less of a PERSON at all. So forget that. Everything you said above, makes everything I said make a 100% sense. What's so wild is that you can't see that when it's so clear. I hope now you can a little  Peace Mike
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