Originally Posted by John W. Selleck
Hi Scott,

What happens is that as soon as they see a chance to use a much cheaper system, employers will do thier best to force employess to take that system even when it is against their own best interests. Once you have enough companies doing that the insurance companies, who cannot compete with a federally aided program, will lose their customer base and go under. There goes my choice of heathcare insurer out the window.
Sorry Naomi. I didn't mean to try to take over the thread with the illegal invasion issue but it is a huge part of our health care costs. As a nurse I see it every day.


LOL Don't apologize, I could go on for days about illegals.

Originally Posted by Scott Campbell
Originally Posted by Doug Heard
Anarchy is the only system where you don't have the government using force against it's on citizens.

How could anything be worse than the 100+ million people killed by their own governments in the last century. And that doesn't count wars.

No person or group of people has the right to use force or the threat of force to make others do their bidding. Supporting government is like supporting a mob protection racket.


Hi Doug:

You actually have a much higher opinion of human nature than I do. If governments are killing 100 million a century now, I think individuals would kill 200 million a century if there was no government. smile

Seriously, I think there is an optimum. I see the scale from no government to oppressive government paralleling the scale from freedom to security. All security and no freedom is no good. But I don't think total freedom and no security would work either - for me at least - because I would use all that freedom to ensure my own security. It would be a full time job.

I don't know where the optimum lies - though I have the feeling that we're reasonably close to it.

I see from your previous post that, aside from practical considerations, you would favor no government. Have you ever been in a situation where you were among a reasonable number of people and there has been no local government? In other words, have you ever lived in a situation of temporary anarchy? I never have. I'd be curious to know how it worked. My instincts tell me it would work okay until the first drought hit - then all hell would break loose.

I think I have to agree with Naomi.

Did I just say that? grin

Scott


It's odd when no matter how different two people are there's always a common ground somewhere. Just like with me and Mr. Duncan, here we can't stand each other pretty much, but stroll over to the pedophile thread, and we agree.

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