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Trying hard to stay out of the Kiss and Beatles & Zeppelin & Rock n Roll opinions
aspect of this thread But it's soooooo hard! lol...And I feel like behaving like a 10 year old again anyway lol....

Kiss - As a child my friends rushed over my house with a Kiss record.
I saw the cover I got excited i wanted soooo bad to LOVE this band Kiss. We put on the record and my friend got all excited.. I just stared at the cover and thought
"Wow! I don't get it! I won't pretend to my friends. This kinda sucks compared to the albums in my house.
I was just listening to "Ten Years Gone" and In My Time Of Dying" by Led Zeppelin
How could I appreciate Kiss and I didn't understand marketing skills yet....

Between my Brothers - Beatles Stones, Who, Cream & Hendrix Records
And my Sisters- Stevie Wonder,Earth Wind & Fire, Curtis Mayfield,& Motown Records
How could I think that Kiss is Great?

All I kept thinking was S-A-T-U-R-D-A-Y Night! and how this Kiss music was like The Bay City Rollers ya know "Saturday Night"
Detroit Rock City was a cool riff but i had to leave "The Doctor Love" Love Gun"God Of Thunder" band behind right then and there.
How about that wonderful 1980's Kiss? Oh brother....

Zeppelin - My favorite band ever...Simple fact Zeppelins bassist alone shows me more talent then all of Kiss put together. You know it would not even be fair to mention Bonzo.. Bonzo's drumming alone has had more influnece to musicains than all of Kiss put together. Even rappers use Bonzo's beats.. Did I leave anyone from that band out Big lol..... uh!

Rap is the new Rock n Roll without question, but will not be the equal of Classic Rock in twenty years or so... With no disrespect to the creativity and talents required to make & produce Rap. It is missing a few ingredients, but the one that will not make it classic the most is... Diversity
What makes The Doors so exceptional is they could be great and be picked out by there sound in 3 seconds. Then the next record played after them is Santana completely different in every regard, Then Pink Floyd completeley different in every regard. And many others And this is with records all in the same year. Rap sounds different in every decade and now it's continuing to do the same thing still.... every 10 years. So maybe there classic era is what "Rappers Delight & Run DMC" or do we jump ahead a decade and say it's NWA & Ice Tea" ?
Classic Rock! is simple it runs from 1966 -1977 basically! Done with Over! Today's Super Sub genre splitting won't allow for that kind of impact besides the freedom in commercial musical creativity.

Anyone-
The Beatles - I had an older brother and 2 older sisters with 14 years on me.
When I was 3 or 4 I was jumping up & down to Meet the Beatles like I was to any other pop song. I used to argue with my brother that The Monkees were better
I used to stare at my brothers Beatles album covers, and be slightly scared of
songs like "A Day In A Life" "She's Leaving Home" I was not ready for all of what the Beatles were. They were not My Band... They were the worlds band. I had to get back into them in my teens, easy thing to do.
The Beatles did not have me sitting with my guitar for 6 hours a day when I was a child. I figured out "And I Love Her" in one hour.. Sabbath's guitar had me practicing 6 hours a day Black Sabbath was my favorite when i was 7 years old I thought they blew Kiss off the planet and now know I was right in thinking so..

For me anyone putting down The Beatles in any regard is a useless attempt at trying to be unique and go against the grain,kinda silly isn't it?I Maybe we can take a stab at some of there film work The only thing I resent the Beatles for now is being the first ones to end the idea of a Sole Songwriters writing songs in Rock. It took some years to finish the job but once the Beatles came it was "your band loses credibilty if you don't write your own songs" Now look at us! You will
starve as songwriter if you write rock & songs taylored for bands.

The Beatles are all by themselves they are Beethoven of our Century no question.

In conclusion I respect Gene Simmons mainly for being a good father to his kids and for being there for them all these years. I respect his marketing genius as well. Simply the best!
His bass playing, songwriting and producing is another story..(See Sting for one thing) lets just say thank God for that makeup & live show.... Can't blame them the competion talent level was fierce back then. You want to compete with just
The Who alone, you better come up with a gimmick. Kiss was the ultimate gimmick.