Originally Posted by Rob B.
Hi Brian,
there is not an easy answer to this because AI is already so multi-facetted. I personally don’t know all of the AI solutions on the market but some of them (e.g. Udio, Sumo) write your lyrics and your music. All the so-called “songwriter” needs to do is press a button and robots do the rest. Then you have the lyricists who write creative lyrics and let the same AI tools generate suitable music. You can take that to the next creative level by using complex prompts and meta-tags to create chord progressions, complex backing vocals, etc. with these same AI tools. I’ve also worked with AI voice generators, which are kind of like your vocalist who sings your lyrics and vocal melody. I would compare these to a NI (Native Instruments) sound. All of these tools are AI-driven but totally different.

I support the idea of having a separate section for AI generated MP3s. Why? Because it takes around 3 minutes to generate a song with AI. If I wanted to, I could post at least 10 AI songs per day here. If 5 other people did the same that would be way over 50 songs per day. On the other hand, writing and producing the traditional way takes hours, if not even days. If it takes me 2-4 weeks to write and record a song, I’d like to see it in a forum for a while to allow everybody to notice that the song is there and give others the chance to give me feedback. Currently the traditional songs get lost in the flood of AI songs. If there were two sections, I would post in both of them. The question is, which songs go into which section. I would love to see songs where AI tools generate the music and/or lyrics in a separate section.

If you really want to get more people to interact here, you should get them to follow the existing guidelines (Post respectful and insightful comments. Don’t flame, hate, spam.). I know a number of people who are reluctant to post here because some people don’t follow these rules.

I have thought about this actually. My idea is to limit each A.I. posted to 1 post. So they can simply add to their post with new songs. All of them in one place. If we find more than 50 people are posting songs, I will add another A.I. board. (I WISH it would happen, but know that it won't). So maybe zero will post to it, or maybe we can have some fun. Remember the part of music that was simply for fun? If someone can amuse me using AI what do I care which tool they used? Without guidance, the AI can't produce a good song, it CAN produce good music to a point (i.e. better than band in a box). But it will be repetitive and the lyrics will be boring. Another reality is that nearly every tool will soon have AI as part of it. Photoshop, Premiere, Illustrator and soon all of the DAWS. Most DAWs already use it via plugins. If someone analyzes your EQ or Mix, that is AI. (Remember, there is ZERO intelligence happening. It is all programming created by, maintained by and enhanced by humans. AI is simply programming shortcuts and data management).

Thanks for your feedback. I am very curious about what people create using AI. If he hadn't deleted them, I would have checked out some that were posted previously, but they were gone before I noticed them.

Brian

PS: We are unlikely to get 10 requests, but I really like the idea of people maintaining and reusing 1 post. I think that would make the Lyric and MP3 pages better to be honest, but I doubt that would be popular.


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