Originally Posted by JAPOV
Originally Posted by Gavin Sinclair
Originally Posted by couchgrouch
Gavin, Carlson and Hannity identifying government officials was hardly the point I was making and that's more than obvious. Yours is a straw man objection.

When Carlson or Hannity write similar accounts of a Messiah who heals the sick, raises the dead, teaches unlike any other, is crucified and Himself raised by God., and those accounts are rooted in contemporaneous events that people aware of them
are inspired to live and die for that Messiah because they find those accounts trustworthy, THEN you'll have an analogy.

What you have now is a false equivalence.

Furthermore, if Hannity and Carlson are the liars you say they are, that only goes to MY point...compared to The Bible, the media isn't trustworthy.

It's not a straw man objection. I was just pointing out that correctly referencing the name of a public figure doesn't really say anything either way about the ideas put forward by the person who does so. I disagreed with you on that point, which seemed to be the crux of your original post - correct incidental details adding to the trustworthiness of the main message. I used those two gentlemen as examples because they are two very obvious examples of liars. I probably should have realized that it would lead to this kind of diversion and steered clear.

Having said that, the analogy is a pretty good one, in that Carlson and Hannity do come pretty close to the Paul and the Gospel writers in their virtual deification of their orange idol. Their ability to correctly identify public figures doesn't turn that crock into the Gospel truth. smile

You are making a false equivalence by lumping "the media" together and saying it's not trustworthy. There are liars like these two and many others, but there are honest journalists. I think you would have difficulty recognizing them, but that doesn't make them not exist.

Reading through the posts in this thread does reveal one thing. FD, with whom I have had run-ins in the past and no doubt will in the future, makes some good points, which are greeted with derision, mean spirited arrogance and malevolent taunting from the professed Christians here, who seem to take pleasure in this, presumably because they can't find a beetle to pull the legs off.

Gavin.... Seriously? All I glean from this is that you're content to allow chaos full reign out of sheer hatred for Trump and all things morally Christian. Please tell me I'm wrong...

You're wrong. Obviously.