Originally Posted by couchgrouch
I think I missed a post here.

Kev, it's not an impeachable offense to withhold aid to a foreign nation. There's no such thing in the Constitution. If there was, you'd cite it verbatim, along with Trump's phone call.

You can't.

Furthermore, the aid was given.

It's not a crime to investigate a criminal, political opponent or not. If it is, cite the statute verbatim along with Trump's transcript.

You can't.

The wholly Democratic Impeachment committee did give "abuse of power " as a reason. The term is vague and hard to define, which is why they settled on it. They've got nothing.

These same people claimed for over two years that Trump colluded with Russia to influence the 2016 election. There was no predicating crime there, either. They have zero credibility. They're just sore losers.

Then there's Kavanaugh. Again, the exact same people leveled unsubstantiated accusations against him. They have a history of being complete liars.

Finally, if you believe Trump committed an impeachable offense, please quote the transcript verbatim, along with a citation of the statute he violated.

You can't. No one can. The entire case is as simple as that.


No Republican thinks its a crime, no Democrat thinks it's NOT. You dont see anything wrong with what he did, it was a "perfect" phone call. There are experts on both sides, people who are generally supposed to know more than you and I, who dont agree on whether or not he did anything wrong.

So how can we claim it? The bottom line is if you like Trump, you dont care what he does. I

In all honesty, I DONT KNOW if he did anything wrong on the call. It's a terrible place we're in right now. Nobody trusts media of any kind. I wish I had that kind of teflon protection, just say "fake news" anytime somebody questions me.

I look at Fox news or CNN, and I dont believe any of them. It's a sad thing when we cant even know what the truth is about a phone call made. Im no legal expert, and I hear people making jokes and people talking about it, and i have no clue and seemingly none of our top law people are in agreement either.


Last edited by Fdemetrio; 01/29/20 06:58 PM.