a) Ukraine found out about the aid being withheld before the WH learned of the whistleblower report

b) ha, ha -- an "obvious criminal", Biden was following US policy and it was the consensus of all of our allies that the prosecutor in question was corrupt. … and there was no current investigation into burisma at that time.

"Quote the transcript verbatim" : "I want you to do us a favor though" -- look into a discredited conspiracy theory and investigate my political opponent (or am I misreading the call's transcript?).

One word on Hunter Biden. Before his career was derailed by drug abuse, he was qualified in corporate governance. He was a lawyer, was executive vice president at MBNA. From 1998 to 2001, he served in the United States Department of Commerce, focusing on ecommerce policy. He was appointed by President George W. Bush to a five year term on the board of directors of Amtrak. He was a board member from July 2006 until he resigned in February 2009, and the board's vice chairman from July 2006 to January 2009, leaving both roles shortly after his father became vice president. Should he have taken board of director's position at Burisma -- absolutely not. Was he qualified to be on the board concerning corporate governance -- yes he was. He also joined the burisma board AFTER the corruption charges were levied. The building of the board was done in response to the issues raised.

Look, I know we will never agree, but I think I have most of the facts on my side. Should trump be convicted by the senate? I don't know -- but he definitely should be defeated at the next election.


"Good science comes in peer reviewed journals. Conspiracy theories come in YouTube videos. "
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