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Tony's recent song about a hard luck miner reminded me that I had one too and inspired me to record it. Thanks Tony smile

This Hard Land is here:

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=377550&songID=8707563

Any comments welcomed. There are a couple of flaws that I will fix if anyone catches them and ignore if no one does. grin

Bruce has a song by the same title - at least I didn't name it Born to Run. grin

Lyric is below. Thanks!

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This Hard Land
(c) 2010 by S.W. Campbell


Well it’s barely into June
But the mercury’s at ninety-two
And my mouth tastes like sand
It’s a dry heat so they say
But they don’t swing a heavy pick all day
Into the rock of this hard land

A long time ago I itched
To stake a claim, strike it rich
And retire a young man
And so by myself I came
To where there’s no one in a suit to blame
When things get tough in this hard land

I had my tables and my graphs
And like clockwork every year I’d start a shaft
That wouldn’t pan
I never thought myself obsessed
Men had given more for less I guessed
In places worse than this hard land

Last night I coughed myself awake
Drank a shot to kill my shakes
And looked at my reflection in the mirror
The body there was in retreat
Twisted, gray and weather-beaten
Like the junipers that grow ‘round here

A year ago I found the vein
Like a mule I worked it night and day
Till out of steam I ran
Packed a few things that I kept
Got a mile down the road before I stepped
My way back to this hard land

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Nice one Scott,enjoyed the listen...weren't any obvious flaws i could hear ..you will know better,you are the writer lol..Terry..

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Scott, just gettin' back on here after a few months locked out due to a computer crash...always enjoy your work...this piece has your signature sound and a well crafted lyric which is in your sweet spot as well...only nit might be to move the bridge along...I felt myself wanting that to flow better on the lyric delivery between line 3 and 4. be well, good to be back with the JPFolks...mj

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My new favorite rhyming scheme: aac, bbc! Great instrumentation throughout. Once Moker mentioned a bridge -- I said "What bridge?" (LOL), so I had to listen again. It could be that "Last night I..." section -- but it has the same scheme so I counted it as another verse.

I think you could experiment with the vocal phrasing on some of the lines -- but you probably already have. Nonetheless, another great little tune. I wish I had your patience to craft a lyric. I think I could be pretty good if I did that. In all reality, I am more of a FAWM/RPM/5090 type guy -- love 'em and leave 'em (songs, that is).

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Originally Posted by Terry Moore
Nice one Scott,enjoyed the listen...weren't any obvious flaws i could hear ..you will know better,you are the writer lol..Terry..


That's the truth, Terry. I know they're there but if other folks don't notice them, I can live with them. smile

Glad you enjoyed smile

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Originally Posted by Moker Jarrett
Scott, just gettin' back on here after a few months locked out due to a computer crash...always enjoy your work...this piece has your signature sound and a well crafted lyric which is in your sweet spot as well...only nit might be to move the bridge along...I felt myself wanting that to flow better on the lyric delivery between line 3 and 4. be well, good to be back with the JPFolks...mj


Glad to see you back, Moker. We were wondering what was up.

Yeah, I almost cut that gap in the bridge out. Should have! grin

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Kevin Emmrich
My new favorite rhyming scheme: aac, bbc! Great instrumentation throughout. Once Moker mentioned a bridge -- I said "What bridge?" (LOL), so I had to listen again. It could be that "Last night I..." section -- but it has the same scheme so I counted it as another verse.

I think you could experiment with the vocal phrasing on some of the lines -- but you probably already have. Nonetheless, another great little tune. I wish I had your patience to craft a lyric. I think I could be pretty good if I did that. In all reality, I am more of a FAWM/RPM/5090 type guy -- love 'em and leave 'em (songs, that is).

Kevin


I like that rhyme scheme too, Kevin. I never set out to get it - just sometimes the tune leads it in that direction.

Yeah, the bridge is the section starting with "last night". I didn't even notice it had the same rhyme scheme! Chord progression is different - that's mostly what I was focused on.

Phrasing can be improved too, I'm sure....

Patience? LOL grin

I can tell you how to spend more time with your lyrics but you won't like it. Move from a place where you have a 3 minute commute to one where you have a 50 minute commute. Don't car-pool and don't play the radio in the car. You're all set. grin

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Scott

Im a fan as you know I too was a little tripped up in the bridge I really like the instumental you have that folk tune old time country mix down to a science.

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I did download it !!!!


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Yeah,
I think I'm gonna download this one too.

have fun,
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Toe down, toe up, repeat many times.

Enjoyed this one dude

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Originally Posted by pgaines
Scott

Im a fan as you know I too was a little tripped up in the bridge I really like the instumental you have that folk tune old time country mix down to a science.

Paul Gaines AKA Shooter


Hiya Paul:

Cool on the download! Thanks!

Might have to see if that bridge can be smoothed. smile

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Originally Posted by John Hoffman
Yeah,
I think I'm gonna download this one too.

have fun,
John


Great! Glad you liked it enough to, John!

Thanks,
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Originally Posted by Mark Cockerill
Toe down, toe up, repeat many times.

Enjoyed this one dude

Mark


Toe tapping is cool smile

Thanks Bro!

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Hi Scott,

I'm not worthy of finding fault with your enjoyable work :-)
I sure enjoyed this tune.
Great inst. break.

real cool lines here....
Last night I coughed myself awake
Drank a shot to kill my shakes


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Howdy Scott. This fell into the immediate download catagory,
just like everything since, & including"Your Voice Singing"
I'm a fan and a student, studying it all. love the oldtimey
western feel to this music, love the storytelling
.......Thanks for sharing...............Gus


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Dude, what can I say that hasn't been said, nobody tells a better tale or with more style and pure musical ability. This is another for the ipod. Keep 'em comin'


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Hi Scott

well I did not hear them... and on my second listen either -- though sound click quit before the end.

I enjoy this too..... your characters of the west are the best !

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I'm a fan!! As with others you've done, this is at the top of the list, they just keep making me feel more inadequate though...hmmm....oh well, I'm a happily inadequate listener!!


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Great tune Scott. This has a really cool melody. Really nothing about the basic tune bothered me. Great job. The phrasing is SOOO good on this... a vast improvement over the last tune of yours I critiqued. I'm wondering if that other tune was just basic lack of attention to detail?

Your voice seems to be getting gruffer by the tune! It sounds great... (I hope it's not a side benefit of Marlboro's? smile )

I really like this. Great job.

Peace,

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One tiny thing that bothered me was the harmonica level in the mix. On my speakers it's a bit overbearing.


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Scott,

I second all the good comments above. I did not hear a flaw but the harmonica did come on a little strong as Ian said. I like the phrasing - I was reading along and kept thinking you were backing yourself into a corner but you always came out fine. It's unusual which is a good thing IMHO.

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Originally Posted by Calvin
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real cool lines here....
Last night I coughed myself awake
Drank a shot to kill my shakes

Calvin


Those are autobiographical Calvin.

No not really - but I can imagine it. grin

Glad you enjoyed this - working out the guitar part in the break was a lot of fun. smile

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Originally Posted by Steven August Rieck
Howdy Scott. This fell into the immediate download catagory,
just like everything since, & including"Your Voice Singing"
I'm a fan and a student, studying it all. love the oldtimey
western feel to this music, love the storytelling
.......Thanks for sharing...............Gus


Cool that you liked it enough to download, Gus. Thanks! Really appreciate your support!

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Originally Posted by Alador
Dude, what can I say that hasn't been said, nobody tells a better tale or with more style and pure musical ability. This is another for the ipod. Keep 'em comin'


Man, Kim - you've forgotten more about music than I'll ever know - so I'll consider that a major compliment. Many thanks!

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Originally Posted by Joice Marie
Hi Scott

well I did not hear them... and on my second listen either -- though sound click quit before the end.

I enjoy this too..... your characters of the west are the best !

jm


Hi Joice:

That was just a clever ploy to get people to listen. There's no flaws here. Yessiree, no flaws in this one. grin

Thanks! Don't know what happened the second time through - just a temporary soundclick glitch, I reckon.

Scott

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Originally Posted by Caroline
I'm a fan!! As with others you've done, this is at the top of the list, they just keep making me feel more inadequate though...hmmm....oh well, I'm a happily inadequate listener!!


Ha - I just listened to your song. I'd kill to come up with a hook like that. smile

Glad you liked this though...

Thanks Caroline!

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Originally Posted by Ian Ferrin
Great tune Scott. This has a really cool melody. Really nothing about the basic tune bothered me. Great job. The phrasing is SOOO good on this... a vast improvement over the last tune of yours I critiqued. I'm wondering if that other tune was just basic lack of attention to detail?

Your voice seems to be getting gruffer by the tune! It sounds great... (I hope it's not a side benefit of Marlboro's? smile )

I really like this. Great job.

Peace,

Ian


One tiny thing that bothered me was the harmonica level in the mix. On my speakers it's a bit overbearing.


Thanks Ian:

Difference between this one and the previous one was that I actually wrote the previous one in 97 or 98 - when writing songs was something I just did with no thought of actually recording them. So yeah - lack of attention to detail.....

This one came a bit later, when I was starting to pay attention to things more... smile

Mixing the harmonica continues to mystify me. Over my 'phones it sounds blasting. Over my monitor speakers, it sounds tame. In the truck, somewhere in between. So it's useful to get comments like that - I'll knock it back a little.....

Nah, no Marlboros - just having fun writing songs in a genre that seems to want a little more grit. smile

Appreciate it, Ian smile

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Originally Posted by Colin Ward
Scott,

I second all the good comments above. I did not hear a flaw but the harmonica did come on a little strong as Ian said. I like the phrasing - I was reading along and kept thinking you were backing yourself into a corner but you always came out fine. It's unusual which is a good thing IMHO.

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Ha - painting oneself into a corner and trying to get out without getting coated with paint is fun. smile

Thanks Colin - will lower that harp part some.

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Hi Scott,

I'm glad you decided to record this one. Great story telling and marriage of lyric and music. Very unusual phrasing and you pulled it off so smoothly. You never disappoint! smile

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I like this, too. Good voice for it -- sort of a cross between Tom Waits and Burl Ives. grin

The twist at the end really made the song, IMO. I do think it could have been even more powerful if the narrator increasingly resented the land for thwarting his dreams year after year as his longing to leave grows stronger.

When he says "Men had given more for less I guessed/
In places worse than this hard land" it seems like he doesn't mind the place. So it's not that big a surprise that he stays.

I had a notion that he could come to think of the land in terms of a woman and the gold as her heart.

Anyhoo, I'm rewriting so that means I like it. Good luck with it.

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Originally Posted by Ricki E. Bellos
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I'm glad you decided to record this one. Great story telling and marriage of lyric and music. Very unusual phrasing and you pulled it off so smoothly. You never disappoint! smile

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Thanks Ricki - I love exploring that western feel with the D and E chords added to the C F G and Am. Glad you weren't disappointed. smile

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Originally Posted by joyboy
I like this, too. Good voice for it -- sort of a cross between Tom Waits and Burl Ives. grin

The twist at the end really made the song, IMO. I do think it could have been even more powerful if the narrator increasingly resented the land for thwarting his dreams year after year as his longing to leave grows stronger.

When he says "Men had given more for less I guessed/
In places worse than this hard land" it seems like he doesn't mind the place. So it's not that big a surprise that he stays.

I had a notion that he could come to think of the land in terms of a woman and the gold as her heart.

Anyhoo, I'm rewriting so that means I like it. Good luck with it.


Thanks, Joyboy smile

First of all, that double metaphor of yours with the woman/land and gold/heart is just an excellent idea. I'll give you a year to write a different song based on that and, if you don't by that point, I'm gonna try. grin

Seriously, that would have worked well here, if I'd have thought of it.

My goal was more mundane - but I hit it because your reaction pretty much is what I was shooting for. I really wanted him coming back to be the logical conclusion. But I wanted to spice it up so I mucked around with the timeline so that the listener is a little surprised to hear that he came back after that bridge. What I had in mind was that the listener might just do a little double take but then think, "Well that makes sense after all". smile

This would have been a little clearer perhaps if I hadn't thrown out an earlier bridge where he identifies more with the land.

I only threw it out because I was worried about the length. Then it turns out to be only 2.5 minutes. I'm gonna have to start paying more attention to that before I record. grin

Thanks again!

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Enjoyed the uptempo-ness of this, plus the pirate-esque, Louie Armstrong-ish, sand-in-throat gravelly vocals!

"Out of steam I ran" reverses the usual colloquialism of speech, but in this "vein" (pun intended) of vocals it sorta works.

All in all an entertaining listen!


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Great Job Scott!!! Another good one. Man you jsut keep pumping them out! I really enjoyed this one.

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Hi Scott...

I really like this song..The lyrics, your voice and the music.

I loved the harmonica especially.

Your voice sounds just right for the part.

My only nit if it is one is that when the vocals ended, I was waiting for more...

A final bit of clever wording..like a tag as to this 'hold that couln't be broken' but maybe thats just me.
Could be the way the last line flowed.. sort of like ending in mid air. Probally just me.. so ignor if I am alone..

But I love the song...

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Man, you played everything but the kitchen sink on this one. Excellent, esp loved the banjo.. Some really fast chord changes in there too. Think I'll play it again. smile


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Scott, love the line, I'd start a shaft that wouldn't pan, says
it all about these guys, great lyric throughout, the melody
equally so, had me boppin and toe tapping, instumentation
is excellent, really enjoyed this one,

So we had road, lode and land, I'm gonna go and think maybe
of something like hard man, sand, its a plan, it was grand...
lol,

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Hi Scott,

That flurry of chords, in the intro and before verses,almost has a prog rock feel! This feels like authentic folk story-telling, and it's all sweet.

Your style, and "sound" are very enjoyable, yet I hope you are finding the getting there fun. Sometimes the way we work can become so second nature that we sleepwalk through it. I find that I sometimes throw a monkey wrench into how I work, just so I don't fall into the "sameness rut."

This is lyrically up there with your best work, and I always enjoy your musicianship. smile

Mike

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Hey Scott,

Finally had some time to listen to this. It made me think of that movie with Daniel Day Lewis where he was an early oil tycoon. That was an insane movie..can't think of the name. But in the early scenes, he worked by himself and broke his leg while he was down inside a deep shaft or hole. He sort of pulled, drug, and willed himself back up to the surface. Your guy and reminded me of that character..just as hard as the land itself in some ways.

I didn't hear any mistakes, only the fast pace and great words.


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Originally Posted by Charlie Wong
Enjoyed the uptempo-ness of this, plus the pirate-esque, Louie Armstrong-ish, sand-in-throat gravelly vocals!

"Out of steam I ran" reverses the usual colloquialism of speech, but in this "vein" (pun intended) of vocals it sorta works.

All in all an entertaining listen!


Hi Charlie:

Thanks. Glad you found it entertaining. smile

Yeah, I'm aware of the Yoda-speak in that line. Folk might be the only genre where you can get away with something like that smile

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Originally Posted by Charles Kirkland
Great Job Scott!!! Another good one. Man you jsut keep pumping them out! I really enjoyed this one.

Charles


Thanks Charles - glad you enjoyed it. Was a fun one for me smile

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Cool! Thanks Gus!

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Originally Posted by Louis
Man, you played everything but the kitchen sink on this one. Excellent, esp loved the banjo.. Some really fast chord changes in there too. Think I'll play it again. smile


LOL - the song is in G but I had to play those intro chords capoed in C because I couldn't switch fast enough in G grin

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Scott,

You're just so danged good with this type of music. Perfect voice for it. As always, a super write and performance! Great listening pleasure on our end!

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Originally Posted by Michael Zaneski
Hi Scott,

That flurry of chords, in the intro and before verses,almost has a prog rock feel! This feels like authentic folk story-telling, and it's all sweet.

Your style, and "sound" are very enjoyable, yet I hope you are finding the getting there fun. Sometimes the way we work can become so second nature that we sleepwalk through it. I find that I sometimes throw a monkey wrench into how I work, just so I don't fall into the "sameness rut."

This is lyrically up there with your best work, and I always enjoy your musicianship. smile

Mike


Hey Mike:

Thanks for the nice words. It's still hard for me to accept compliments on my musicianship because I still find it hard to think of myself as one. I probably only kept at playing because I realized that was the only way I was ever going to have my stuff be recorded. grin

I'm still having fun - don't feel like I'm in a rut. Since I just do this for fun, I'd probably just not record at all if I was. smile

I like mixing it up but I tend to do it in blocks rather than song by song. I might be getting near the end of this particular block - we'll see what the muse has to say about it smile

Thanks Mike - nice to see you around the mp3 forum again!

Scott



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Originally Posted by Wendy D
Hey Scott,

Finally had some time to listen to this. It made me think of that movie with Daniel Day Lewis where he was an early oil tycoon. That was an insane movie..can't think of the name. But in the early scenes, he worked by himself and broke his leg while he was down inside a deep shaft or hole. He sort of pulled, drug, and willed himself back up to the surface. Your guy and reminded me of that character..just as hard as the land itself in some ways.

I didn't hear any mistakes, only the fast pace and great words.


Hi Wendy:

I'm drawing a blank on the name of that movie too but I know exactly which one you are talking about. Thanks for reminding me about it because I've wanted to see it. Just have to wait until my wife is out of town because she doesn't like westerns smile

I'll go up on imd to chase down the title....

Glad this worked for you. Since I'm not a miner, you got me wondering if the whole think is a metaphor for songwriting. grin

Thanks Wendy!

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Originally Posted by Tony A
Scott, love the line, I'd start a shaft that wouldn't pan, says
it all about these guys, great lyric throughout, the melody
equally so, had me boppin and toe tapping, instumentation
is excellent, really enjoyed this one,

So we had road, lode and land, I'm gonna go and think maybe
of something like hard man, sand, its a plan, it was grand...
lol,

Tony.


LOL - Yeah, Tony. Write an new one. And then we'll get Kevin to write one where he puts all FOUR of them together. grin

Yeah, I like that line too. There is always an anticipation in starting a new shaft (or song, LOL) - even if the previous twenty didn't do anything. grin

Glad you enjoyed this one!

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Originally Posted by OskaSeason
Hi Scott...

I really like this song..The lyrics, your voice and the music.

I loved the harmonica especially.

Your voice sounds just right for the part.

My only nit if it is one is that when the vocals ended, I was waiting for more...

A final bit of clever wording..like a tag as to this 'hold that couln't be broken' but maybe thats just me.
Could be the way the last line flowed.. sort of like ending in mid air. Probally just me.. so ignor if I am alone..

But I love the song...

Roy


Hi Roy:

Sorry I jumped over your post. Haven't had my coffee yet!

The ending of this IS a little abrupt. I probably should have added one more measure of strumming before going into the last chord progression.

Since I don't write in country, I usually don't think in terms of tags. If I was going to use one here though I might consider doing something with this notion - He's found the gold. And now the listener thinks back and asks what he is digging for in the first verse. I think he's digging a hole to bury his gold in. grin

Thanks Roy!

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Originally Posted by Al David
Scott,

You're just so danged good with this type of music. Perfect voice for it. As always, a super write and performance! Great listening pleasure on our end!

Alan


Thanks Alan - Much appreciated!

If a musician like you can get some pleasure out of one of my songs, I consider that a victory! smile


Scott

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