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Hi all,

Andy here again to make sure nobody is in danger of feeling happy. smile

Just blew the dust off this, the recording was made around 10 years ago, and I wouldn't have the keyboard on it if I was to do it again.

Thinking of including this on the album I'm working on.

So I would appreciate all input as always as if i'm going to use it it will need re-recorded anyway.


Andy

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ANOTHER SUNSET


I wander home along the sea wall
Cutting a path through the dusk
leading a life that I don't understand
Wondering where to turn

CH
The sun sets on another empty day
Another dream lies to rust
The rain falls on another window pane
One more dream turns to dust

Now every evening as the shadows appear
I almost sigh with relief
The sun is gone the mocking daylight dissapears
darkness is my time.

CH


When you're in a valley a mountain looks so high
far to far to go
your're feet falter on that hill to tough to climb
the dream to far to touch

Ch.


Last chorus

The sun sets on another empty day
one more dream lies to die
I'd like to be on top of that mountain now'n again
Somewhere I could see the sky


(C) Andy Dinnell 2009






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Andy
brilliant work my friend. Man I love this song

classic sound, beautiful effects in it.

Perfect!


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Thanks Dan,

Only shame about this track is that I don't know the cello player anymore.

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Hi Andy,

I sure enjoyed listening to this song. What a hauntingly beautiful combination.I love your vocal and the instruments are amazing,

Thanks for posting,

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Hi Andy,

What a contrast in singing styles from 2AM, this is all control and restraint, but not without its own emotions.

Your vocal is getting swallowed up by the arrangement in spots. Maybe a stronger compression setting on your vocals, combined with inching a little closer to the mic, so it captures all those nice low mids and gives your voice a fuller bodied sound.

The viola is the main culprit in the mix; I'd push it back and to the side and add a bit of hall reverb.

Very nice song, decent overall arrangement. I can hear the Christy Moore in this one...I noticed you list him on your Soundclick. Christy Moore is God. I saw him live twice, and he changed my life.

Nice work, and thanks for making your music available as DLs...

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Letha, Thank you very much for your comments.

Michael, I se what you are saying about the mix,this was recorded over 10 years ago so a new recording will be done at some point and i'll take your observations on board.

Thank you

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Originally Posted by Andy Dinnell
Hi all,

Andy here again to make sure nobody is in danger of feeling happy. smile


LOL! Thanks for the laugh, Andy.

I think of myself as neither an optimist nor a pessimist. Or, more accurately, I'm sometimes one - sometimes the other. The pessimism, when it shows up, tends to come at the end of the day. The optimism? I wake up with that.... smile

Long winded way of saying your song resonates with me. smile

That cello is really cool. Little loud in the mix. I know you plan to re-record but do you have the individual tracks from the recording session or just the final mix? Would be cool to keep that cello......

It works, Andy...

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Hi Scott,

Thanks for taking the time to listen.

Unfortunatley the mp3 is all I have of that recording, the original tracks are long gone.

We got a good music academy in Glasgow and the poor students are always out playing on the streets at the weekend. So I will hopefully be able to round up a cello for the re-record.

I've neve quite grasped this optimism thing you speak of,perhaps I need to get up earlier. smile

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Hi Andy,

This has beautiful music, suiting the mournful lyrics very well. Hopefully when you re-do it, you won't lose any of that.

Lyrically, you "paint it black" very well. Just a few things. This is very personal for the singer, it's all "me & I" but in V3, it changes to "you". I'm a firm believer in keeping that sort of thing consistent. How about this:

"In a valley the mountain looks so high
far too far to go
My feet falter on that hill too tough to climb
the dream too far to touch"

I also think you need a little more variation in the melody of the chorus. The music wouldn't have to change but you need to do something to break it away from the verse melody.

The last thing is your rhyme scheme. You need one that's consistent. You're a songwriter. Write what you feel, then make it rhyme. smile

I'd have to say I am an optimist, that's why I write a lot of pessimistic songs. I get it all out of my system so I CAN wake up and face another day. But that's just me.

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Thanks Ricki,

I really do need to watch out for myself doing that with lyrics. I seem to change from me to you alot. Thanks for pointing that out I would never have spotted it as I sing this one on auto pilot these days. I will fix that with the new recording.


Thanks for the listen and the input.

Andy


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i really like the chello and the flute(?) ..very pretty and fits the lyrics to this perfect! the vocals are also working good for this song ...enjoyed it : )

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Heather,

Thank you very much. It is keyboard making the flute sound I intend to replace it woth the real thing.

Thanks again for your comments, I absolutely love your voice.

Andy


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Andy, excellent!!!

Of course you know how I feel about melancholy songs. This ranks up there with the best.

Love it!

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John,

Thank you very much, that is a very nice thing to hear from you.

I Just signed my sister in law up to play the flute for the re-record.

Thanks again,

Andy


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Argghhh! Soundclick has decided to freeze up on me -- I'll come back a little later.

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Sometimes it is like that and you paint the scene well. It is an effective lyric.

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Great instrumentation in this one. 10 years old -- stills sounds fresh today. If you re-record this, you may want to look at one section that "ups the ante" a little and belts it out -- and then comes back down. Just to add a little listening variety.

Quite a good one as is, though.

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Tom thanks for the listen.

Kevin I see what you are saying, I'll look into giving a bit of a loft at the chorus.

Thanks for the input.

Andy


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Andy, this is really good. I wouldn't remove the keyboard at all. It adds to the mood you are creating.


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Andy;

I'm in work and haven't been able to listen, I will when I get home. One thing that struck me in the chorus:

"The rain falls on another window pane
One more dream turns to dust"

When I hear "dust" I think dry.
Small, meaningless nit and like I said I haven't heard it yet.

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Hi Steve

Know what you mean. since that recording i've swapped rust and dust makes a bit more sense that way

The sun sets on another empty day
Another dream turns to dust
The rain falls on another window pane
One more dream lies to rust


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Thanks Tricia,

I'm looking into replacing the keyboard with flute but It may end up staying.

Andy


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Sounds right now..

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First, I love the song. (My Scottish roots are digging it.) wink

One thing though.... a lot of it sounds the same after awhile, which is cool in most ways. But I was wondering if you could change the emphasis on the phrasing on the second and fourth lines of the verses to:

LONG short LOONG short-loooooong.

It's very hard to explain what I mean while writing, instead of singing. smile

Anyway, just a suggestion. Don't care if you toss it out.

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Erisa,

Thanks for taking the time to comment.

Strangely I think I know what you mean I will give it a try.

Andy


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Hey Andy
Sounds good. I didn't read all the posts.
Just wondered if, in the first line you could say "sea sand" instead of Sea wall" to get a better rhyme
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I like this song and it's not even my thing. I listened to it earlier today also. It moves me someplace I’ve not been in my head. And that’s cool!

Thank you for this one!
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Iffin I don't review your song, sorry, I'm trying to stay with styles I like. But I do listen to all on 2 pages when I have time. \:\)
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Beautiful song.

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Dave

Thanks for the comments i'm glad you liked it.

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Babette,

Thanks for listening,

Just having a listen to your myspace at the moment, You have a beautiful voice and style.

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I was feeling exaggerated and needed a little downer, so I figured I could stand a listen :-)

I must say I was disappointed, it didn't work like a downer at all!

I enjoyed it very much, great voice, very soothing acoustic, and you've chosen perfect pads for it.

Great job. Sorry it didn't work.. LOL

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Magne

Glad you liked it but sorry it did not have the desired effect!

you must be becoming used to my dark ramblings smile

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Hi Andy

I think this song will be a traesure piece on your album.... There are alot of nuances that could be fixed on this mix if you had the original tracks.... there's so much great stuff to work with... Love the cello and I love the arrangement build in general -- just would like to see each instrument and vocal shine in their own space... Good song and singing. jm


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Joice,

Thanks so much for the very kind comments, pity I don't have the original tracks anymore.

Still I won't change much when I re-record it.

Thanks again

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Andy;
I read through the lyrics several times and thought wow, this is really depressing I hope this guy is all right. I couldn't imagine how you could make this sound right. Then I listened to it and thought, oh yah! I was totally enthralled. The music makes this work! I want to sit in front of a big fireplace with a glass of whiskey after hearing this.
Whatever you do don't lose that haunting pennywhistle sound.
Nice job
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Steve,

Thanks so much, wanting to sit at a fire with a whisky is as good a compliment as it gets

Thanks

Andy


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The white owl in the belfry sits.'

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Wowza, Andy, you nailed this one. Your rich vocal and the lovely instrumentals help paint an achingly melancholy and bleak picture (in a GOOD way, if that makes sense crazy )....

Having been in a rather extensive funk lately, this verse resonated with me the most:

When you're in a valley a mountain looks so high
far too far to go
your're feet falter on that hill to tough to climb
the dream to far to touch


I will confess, though, I was curious why you switched the POV from the first to the second person. Was it intentional? BUT, while normally I prefer consistency in that regard, maybe that’s why it spoke to ME so directly…..hmmmmmmm.....

Also, while the music sets and sustains the mood well, I wonder if you could have a little more melodic contrast between the choruses and the verses. I was getting into the lyrics so much, I almost didn't notice.... blush

Nevertheless, this is great Andy. I love the strings, the musical break is very pretty….and I think you’re lucky to have that accent to “fudge” some of those rhymes (or are they not intentional either?? crazy grin ).

Anyway, thanks for sharing. I'm sure Damien Rice would be quite pleased.... cool

Take care,
Beth


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Hi Beth,

Thanks for the comments. very nice of you. I AM terrible for switching perspective I need to stop that, although it just might work on this one.


As for my accent and 'Fudging' rhymes i'm saying nothing without legal representation wink

Andy



'Alone and warming his five wits,
The white owl in the belfry sits.'

-Alfred, Lord Tennyson

http://www.soundclick.com/andydinnell


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