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Hey folks this is a song from Dennis Harbour....this was the original version....Dennis is in the process of a re-write....

I had already put a "spin" on it....This may need to go in a entirely a new direction....musically...with the new lyrics he has written....just a guitar an vocal....

He has the song currently on the Lyrics 3 board...I kind a like this version although a lot of points made over there on Lyric 3 board will probably help this song a lot....I changed his original version a little...

The new version is more "meaty" lyrically....I didn't try anything with it musically....

Please give your thoughts....thanks


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Hey Guys:

I'm very hesitant to comment on this one because I went and read the thread in the lyric forum. Dennis, if you read this, please accept my deepest sympathies.

If this was written cathartically, then I'd suggest leaving it as it is, for what it is.

If the interest is to take it further, I'd make some suggestions - just not sure its appropriate here.

T-Bob: I liked it fine, musically. The melody for the chorus worked very nicely for me - really got the emotion of the hook line across.

Scott

Thanks Bob,
I've never had a song get this far before.

Hi Scott,
Thank you for word of sympathy.
I wrote a rough draft before my wife was ill, and it was a simple torch song. I've tried to change the theme to something
more in line to my real life. I am open to any improvements.

Hey Dennis:

Believe it or not, I actually guessed that was the case.

Keep in mind this is just the rambling of an average Joe.....

Some of the lines in the song make me think that she left him by her choice (torch song). Some of them called to mind that she passed on. So it had a bit of a split-personality for me.

Both of these situations are sad - but, in my opinion, the OTHER emotions that accompany the sadness (and they always do) are quite different for these two situations.....

So I would begin by deciding which song I want it to be. In my opinion, the hook works best for a torch song (which is how I guessed the history).

All of these comments address the song. On a personal level, I hope that you are holding on. I have noticed that being able to write has brought some comfort to other members of the board when a loved one has passed on. I hope the same is true for you.

Best Wishes,
Scott

Thanks Scott,
This morning I edited it a little to take out references to a breakup, more like "We didn't run out of love, we run out of time"

Very moving song Denis...lovely tribute. Sensitive performance Bob...good job.

GerryM

Dennis....You are welcome....if I can do anything for you let me know.....I'd be happy to try....and again....sorry for your loss....Bob

Scott....Your a class guy.....no other words needed...thanks...Bob

Gerry M....Thank you....Bob

Nice song. It seems this is a type a song that would benefit from some lite angelic harmonies -- or more counter harmonies, oohs and aahs. Just a thought.

Kemmrich.....Thanks....Dennis is re-writing this one....this version was done before the re-write...still in progress....I agree with your observations....good thoughts...

I'm not sure I can take this where it needs to go....I'm limited...I was trying to give Dennis an idea....how it might sound....it's definitely not "written in stone" yet....It's always good to hear your lyric to music....I think it can help him some...

I did like the song as it was written....because I tend to write those type simple ballads...the hook line is what caught my eye....on this one....thanks for taking time to listen and comment...Bob

Hi Bob,

I haven't recieved much fedback on the rewrite, so maybe the first version was the better one.

Thanks Glenn, and I agree, Bob Did a good job

Thanks Kemmrich, I see your point.

Dennis....I just liked the first one....with some fixes it would be ok...imho...I'm definitely no expert....but I do know you have to try to make it sing good....and be lyrically up to par...something I have my own problems with doing, especially the lyric part....putting music together with a lyric is a challenge....I'm going over to the Lyric3 board and look at your re-write...I'll try to help out....I really never looked at it closely....If your happy with the melody....will try to make something work....Bob

All been said, sentiments apart its always a pleasure to hear a vocal with an acoustic guitar accompaniment.

Gerry

Gerry....thanks...Bob

I like your voice on this and Dennis is lucky to have you do it for him. I quickly listened a couple of days ago and thought it sounded very rushed and choppy. I'm listening now and either you redid it or I was out of it that day. It really does sound good tonight.

Nicely done.

Rick

Dennis, I love that line you added:
We didn't run out of love, we ran out of time. That's absolutely classic. Again, my deepest condolensces. Terribob, reading through some of these responses made me realize what caring guys you truly are. It renews my faith of mankind to read that kind of stuff. Hugs to you all.

Bob,

You did Dennis honor with your performance of his song. I like you tasty and sensitive guitar licks as well as your expressive vocal.

Dennis,

I am so sorry to hear of your loss and I hope this song brings you some small comfort in your grief. It is a heartache I simply can't imagine.

Clint

Hey Rick...I did do a re-do of the original version...still not happy with the results yet...Dennis has a re-write...I re-phrased a little after hearing my first take on it...So you are very observant.....glad it sounded better....

Louis did a wonderful version...using some of the new lines Dennis wrote....check it out...

Thanks...Rick

Tricia...I have to say I have met some of the nicest people here on this site....some I talk to often...never met a single one in person...I know we are here for music....but I personally have gain more than music from a lot of these " just plain folks"....

I won't start mention names, because there are so many, you're in there....if I missed one I'd me mad at myself....sounds like an exceptance speech...lol...but it's true...and it does re-new your faith in mankind...I agree...thanks for your kind comment...

Have a nice day....t-bob

Clint...Thanks...Louis sure did a wonderful job....man that's a tender version he did....wonderful....Bob

Hi Tricia, thank you for your sympathy. The line "we didn't run out of love, we ran out of time" wasn't really in the song, just a reply to comment. Maybe it should have been in it.

Hi Clint,
I'm glad you enjoyed it.

Thank you for the condolences

Hi Bob, I'm can't wait to hear the new versions, I think my speakers are muted off. I'll know in a few minutes

Dennis....Louis did a version....it's wonderful....make sure to check that out....he started a new thread for it under the same name.....by Louis Twinn....I think you'll love it...I did....

I did a re-do on the original version....still basically the same.....

Have a good evening Dennis.....Bob

HiMerlin,

I didn't mean to overlook your commment, but I couldn't listen til I had the speakers working.
I'm glad you liked it, Bob did a great job.

Your vocals are always smooth!

MJM....Thanks man....that means a lot coming from you....I'm going to give this one another try....re-phrase and change a few lines....it's a nice song Dennis wrote...Bob

Thanks Bob

Dennis....You are welcome....I have another version I've been working on....trying to incorporate some of the new lyrics and feelings....one of these days I'll get it recorded and get it to you....

It is so neat to hear Louis do his version too...Louis has that tenderness thing down pat...imho....I love his delivery...I can't say I've ever heard a song by him that doesn't show a strong conviction/emotion in his singing of the lyrics....in such a simple, sweet way.....

Anyway, It was my pleasure to do your song......thank you, too...Bob

Hey Bob and Dennis,

You probably must think I'm rude, but somehow I've overlooked this version of Dennis's song. My apologies.

I said on the other thread, that a real song is something that can be done in very diferent styles and genres, and this is one of them.

The songwrititing is, to me anyway, honest and straight fowarad. It doesn't pretend, and it doen't try to be something which it is not.

If anyone can write from a deep sense of personal experience, and also bring it across in a mannaer which is not flippant, then I think you've got the real deal.

Both versions are moving, and hopefully some one else willl have yet another take on the origional song. That is something which makes a song a real song. Good luck with it you guys.

cheers, niteshift

Nite....No sweat...I didn't think that at all...I know you, remember....I think this song can use a little work....but heck what song doesn't....but you're right....what attracted me was the straight forward approach...on this one....the hook is wonderful....for that matter the chorus....

Hey Dennis has two versions....that's great....I'm working on another one....based on some of his thinkin' in the re-write and Louis's version....

Anyway no apology required....Ever...to me....your a good guy(mate)....Bob

Hi Niteshift,
Thanks for the comments for both versions. What surprised me is, this is my first lyric that someone wanted to mp3.

Substudio....I wasn't going to bump this up, then I read your reply to Louis, about confussion....this is the newest version I did yesterday....tried to use a little more of Dennis's lyrics and threw in some "stuff"....

My production is lacking of course....it doesn't match up to Jan and Louis....I really like their version.....they did great....

Dennis has been surprised by all the attention....but he does have a real good song....it caught my eye, right away.....Anyway it's been fun listening to it "grow"......

Hope that helps, you Sub.....

Thanks T

I like your version also.. I thought you sang this very well as did Louis..

You were very consistent on this one.
With all the manes and a Dennis to boot I got confused...

tell our Dennis i'll have his song done by Monday!

Thanks
Sub

Damn,Bob this is good. You bring such great feel to the song. You know, I always have dug your vocal!!! Listening for the third time now
You and Louis have two completly diffrent version of the song, both of them thouch my heart!!!!
All the best
Jan Petter

Sub.... thanks...

I'll tell my Dennis about the song.....he sleeps till 2:00pm on Saturday.....partying all night...lol....that kid...

I really like "Baby It's You"....he played the rough cut you sent him for me....I like it....

I didn't forget you....either....I haven't done anything with putting together some of my songs yet.....made a few copies for some friends....that wanted some of my stuff....

The guy from the Ricky thing said he would be cut No.11 on the CD.....really until I see it in my hand....I'll still be nervous....I think the guy is "up and up" with him though....

Take care my friend.....glad to see you back around here and hope your feeling ok....T-bob

Jan....Thanks man....I thought maybe you didn't like it...Whew...I feel better....thanks....I still like what you and Louis did very much.....

Hey I know you and (my) Dennis talk now and then....check out his new stuff that Sub helped him put together...some really good stuff......over on My Space.....Jan have a great day...Bob