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Honest feedback is hard to get, because its so filtered through personality clashes, and ego and kissing arse.

A simple rating system, would not be difficult. Perhaps when the song has 300 views and one or two reviews. Perhaps the user coukd as easily click...1 for terrible, 5 for great.

Would be anonymous.too

As it is now its a bit like kissing your sister

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Maybe use an unbiased AI algorithm to rate songs. No, AI isn't unbiased. It would favor the Suna songs. Then again, I don't consider reviews anyway. Well, mostly I don't. I have made changes to my music after hearing a review.

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Originally Posted by John Lawrence Schick
Maybe use an unbiased AI algorithm to rate songs. No, AI isn't unbiased. It would favor the Suna songs. Then again, I don't consider reviews anyway. Well, mostly I don't. I have made changes to my music after hearing a review.

No but reviews can be, I like this, or no dont like that.

I guess it would depend who was suggesting the changes

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Originally Posted by John Lawrence Schick
Maybe use an unbiased AI algorithm to rate songs. No, AI isn't unbiased. It would favor the Suna songs. Then again, I don't consider reviews anyway. Well, mostly I don't. I have made changes to my music after hearing a review.

John ate you against Ai, as a production tool? All composing done by artist, but using Ai to play bass, or mix your song, fiver is similar to that

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F for Family. if you say robot your banned for 30 days . if you write out the Declaration Of Independence. You're also banned for 30 days. if you say the world is coming to an end like a News person , We shoot you.

You must say I enjoyed your Artificial insemination song .

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Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
Honest feedback is hard to get, because its so filtered through personality clashes, and ego and kissing arse.

A simple rating system, would not be difficult. Perhaps when the song has 300 views and one or two reviews. Perhaps the user coukd as easily click...1 for terrible, 5 for great.

Would be anonymous.too

As it is now its a bit like kissing your sister

Are you kidding?
You are calling for a rating system?
You can't take any criticism at all.

Stay with your current rating system, which is you talking about how great your songs are and how much you love them and referring to them as "classics."
Rate that.

At any rate, thanks for a good laugh before bedtime.

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I posted a song yesterday, it has 425 views in one day. People are here. Thought if there was a simple button, like./Don't like. It would make it real easy.

I can take criticism, but you're a liar, so I reject yours.

You clearly have no clue about the majority of other genres there.

You dont write about things people can relate to on a whim.. and I can easily do that.

Somebody is not allowed to post a b side type of song?

Im the artist, not pitching.

If I saw consistency in your reviews, I'd belive you.

I mean we could critize Paul Simon if we wanted to.

This way, you wouldn't have to say anything just a grade

I could give "say whut" a zero and be done with it.

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ha ha ha , its a classic


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Im lookin into a forum that is just post, and grade.

No bullshit, no nepotism, no you scrub my back...

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Bullshit is robot songs and not a live artist to record them


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Originally Posted by bennash
Bullshit is robot songs and not a live artist to record them

It doesn't matter, doesnt matter, not everybody is a performer, some just write.

If you like what yiu hear click it

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You sing , common Dom. and play. You're scared of a recording studio. Why I have no idea .

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Originally Posted by bennash
You sing , common Dom. and play. You're scared of a recording studio. Why I have no idea .

I had a traumatic experience as a child in a studio

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Bullshit lol. You've a had a traumatic experience with your wallet. Maybe Simon Cowel can judge your robot songs

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FD Rating system.....maybe a thread that shows folks HOW to critique to the standards you'd like?

Lyric prose, structure, "scan", prosody, melody, arrangement...

Otherwise you need buttons for various aspects of the song or lyric as posted

Elvis you are still on about getting studios work. They definitely deserve support and clients, but for my aims, and I think FD's, it's not as important to us as it is to you

C'est tout. Plenus Punctus.

I will admit to being frugal where I put money. But I'm Dutch and it is a national sport, like voetbal. We love the front row for a dime.

But my background allows me to look at resources and means beyond money and I put up no cost to me music on a Youtube channel that now has 23 followers and one video approaching 1000 views

Puts me nowhere on the musical map but gets me in front of people who matter to me and then also to those passing by.

I have no dreams beyond that.

I am mostly retired with some clients of interest and long standing left, who now produces digital collages and continues a decades long songwriting "passion to produce original music" interest.

My day job, the one I used music to take regular vacations from, was\is now as a mostly retired CPA.

That has actually been a wonderful platform that has allowed me to accomplish some neat things that have enriched my community and region and Canada. I've been a member, director and chair of an advisory committee to what was then our Federal Business Development Bank using us as a window into our region's various ethocultural business communities, a Rotarian and for the last 15 years have driven World Interfaith Harmony Week in Toronto. This is a United Nations initiative for which I have received recognition in the form of a Medal from King Abdullah II of Jordan and a recent King Charles III Coronation medal awarded to 30,000 Canadians to recognize my interfaith activism.

So I do not regret may day job a bit. It gave me a good living, and allowed me use my skill and drive to enrich the lives of my family, clients, and community. So I am satisfied with my day job journey so far

But I always had my guitar next to my desk since the late 80s when I started my own practice. Then I started writing seriously when I found JPF and TWS and a lot of great JPFwriters listed on the left hand column

We were all driven to write and had varying degrees of talent and dreams.

True today as it was then

C'est tout. Plenus Punctus.


If writing ever becomes work I think I'm going to have to stop

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Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
FD Rating system.....maybe a thread that shows folks HOW to critique to the standards you'd like?

Lyric prose, structure, "scan", prosody, melody, arrangement...

Otherwise you need buttons for various aspects of the song or lyric as posted

Elvis you are still on about getting studios work. They definitely deserve support and clients, but for my aims, and I think FD's, it's not as important to us as it is to you

C'est tout. Plenus Punctus.

I will admit to being frugal where I put money. But I'm Dutch and it is a national sport, like voetbal. We love the front row for a dime.

But my background allows me to look at resources and means beyond money and I put up no cost to me music on a Youtube channel that now has 23 followers and one video approaching 1000 views

Puts me nowhere on the musical map but gets me in front of people who matter to me and then also to those passing by.

I have no dreams beyond that.

I am mostly retired with some clients of interest and long standing left, who now produces digital collages and continues a decades long songwriting "passion to produce original music" interest.

My day job, the one I used music to take regular vacations from, was\is now as a mostly retired CPA.

That has actually been a wonderful platform that has allowed me to accomplish some neat things that have enriched my community and region and Canada. I've been a member, director and chair of an advisory committee to what was then our Federal Business Development Bank using us as a window into our region's various ethocultural business communities, a Rotarian and for the last 15 years have driven World Interfaith Harmony Week in Toronto. This is a United Nations initiative for which I have received recognition in the form of a Medal from King Abdullah II of Jordan and a recent King Charles III Coronation medal awarded to 30,000 Canadians to recognize my interfaith activism.

So I do not regret may day job a bit. It gave me a good living, and allowed me use my skill and drive to enrich the lives of my family, clients, and community. So I am satisfied with my day job journey so far

But I always had my guitar next to my desk since the late 80s when I started my own practice. Then I started writing seriously when I found JPF and TWS and a lot of great JPFwriters listed on the left hand column

We were all driven to write and had varying degrees of talent and dreams.

True today as it was then

C'est tout. Plenus Punctus.

No you wouldn't need buttons for everything. Cause all the elements of a song amount to one thing, does this song make me feel something, do i like it.

As far as studio, you can do it all at home now, if you know how to use a daw and basic sound tips, especially if just adding vocals or guitar, is very doable.

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I figure we make use of the lurkers who come and read.

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Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
FD Rating system.....maybe a thread that shows folks HOW to critique to the standards you'd like?

Lyric prose, structure, "scan", prosody, melody, arrangement...

Otherwise you need buttons for various aspects of the song or lyric as posted

Elvis you are still on about getting studios work. They definitely deserve support and clients, but for my aims, and I think FD's, it's not as important to us as it is to you

C'est tout. Plenus Punctus.

I will admit to being frugal where I put money. But I'm Dutch and it is a national sport, like voetbal. We love the front row for a dime.

But my background allows me to look at resources and means beyond money and I put up no cost to me music on a Youtube channel that now has 23 followers and one video approaching 1000 views

Puts me nowhere on the musical map but gets me in front of people who matter to me and then also to those passing by.

I have no dreams beyond that.

I am mostly retired with some clients of interest and long standing left, who now produces digital collages and continues a decades long songwriting "passion to produce original music" interest.

My day job, the one I used music to take regular vacations from, was\is now as a mostly retired CPA.

That has actually been a wonderful platform that has allowed me to accomplish some neat things that have enriched my community and region and Canada. I've been a member, director and chair of an advisory committee to what was then our Federal Business Development Bank using us as a window into our region's various ethocultural business communities, a Rotarian and for the last 15 years have driven World Interfaith Harmony Week in Toronto. This is a United Nations initiative for which I have received recognition in the form of a Medal from King Abdullah II of Jordan and a recent King Charles III Coronation medal awarded to 30,000 Canadians to recognize my interfaith activism.

So I do not regret may day job a bit. It gave me a good living, and allowed me use my skill and drive to enrich the lives of my family, clients, and community. So I am satisfied with my day job journey so far

But I always had my guitar next to my desk since the late 80s when I started my own practice. Then I started writing seriously when I found JPF and TWS and a lot of great JPFwriters listed on the left hand column

We were all driven to write and had varying degrees of talent and dreams.

True today as it was then

C'est tout. Plenus Punctus.



I will admit to being frugal where I put money. But I'm Dutch and it is a national sport, like voetbal. We love the front row for a dime. I did not know that was a dutch deal . lol

Yes I like recording . If not I'm... only paying bills and talking to doctors . of course it's Outlaw songs , like I'm somebody . Today we trapped a feral cat (we call Trump) . Who killed Gavins cat who owns the studio.
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He kicked him and bounced off the piano , Were going to drop him 5 miles on a dirt road far from the studio . Gavins mad and wanted to shoot him , but ran out of bullets . But he said he'd probably feel bad .



Of course we bitched about life before recording . Lifes a big pile of horse shite. Yes thats correct . Everybody is full of it . As I burned out on that county road where jack rabbits out number the people in this town . See ya next week Gavin .

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Originally Posted by bennash
Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
FD Rating system.....maybe a thread that shows folks HOW to critique to the standards you'd like?

Lyric prose, structure, "scan", prosody, melody, arrangement...

Otherwise you need buttons for various aspects of the song or lyric as posted

Elvis you are still on about getting studios work. They definitely deserve support and clients, but for my aims, and I think FD's, it's not as important to us as it is to you

C'est tout. Plenus Punctus.

I will admit to being frugal where I put money. But I'm Dutch and it is a national sport, like voetbal. We love the front row for a dime.

But my background allows me to look at resources and means beyond money and I put up no cost to me music on a Youtube channel that now has 23 followers and one video approaching 1000 views

Puts me nowhere on the musical map but gets me in front of people who matter to me and then also to those passing by.

I have no dreams beyond that.

I am mostly retired with some clients of interest and long standing left, who now produces digital collages and continues a decades long songwriting "passion to produce original music" interest.

My day job, the one I used music to take regular vacations from, was\is now as a mostly retired CPA.

That has actually been a wonderful platform that has allowed me to accomplish some neat things that have enriched my community and region and Canada. I've been a member, director and chair of an advisory committee to what was then our Federal Business Development Bank using us as a window into our region's various ethocultural business communities, a Rotarian and for the last 15 years have driven World Interfaith Harmony Week in Toronto. This is a United Nations initiative for which I have received recognition in the form of a Medal from King Abdullah II of Jordan and a recent King Charles III Coronation medal awarded to 30,000 Canadians to recognize my interfaith activism.

So I do not regret may day job a bit. It gave me a good living, and allowed me use my skill and drive to enrich the lives of my family, clients, and community. So I am satisfied with my day job journey so far

But I always had my guitar next to my desk since the late 80s when I started my own practice. Then I started writing seriously when I found JPF and TWS and a lot of great JPFwriters listed on the left hand column

We were all driven to write and had varying degrees of talent and dreams.

True today as it was then

C'est tout. Plenus Punctus.



I will admit to being frugal where I put money. But I'm Dutch and it is a national sport, like voetbal. We love the front row for a dime. I did not know that was a dutch deal . lol

Yes I like recording . If not I'm... only paying bills and talking to doctors . of course it's Outlaw songs , like I'm somebody . Today we trapped a feral cat (we call Trump) . Who killed Gavins cat who owns the studio.
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He kicked him and bounced off the piano , Were going to drop him 5 miles on a dirt road far from the studio . Gavins mad and wanted to shoot him , but ran out of bullets . But he said he'd probably feel bad .



Of course we bitched about life before recording . Lifes a big pile of horse shite. Yes thats correct . Everybody is full of it . As I burned out on that county road where jack rabbits out number the people in this town . See ya next week Gavin .

LOL what I like about this is the little scene that can play out around a studio.

Let me get this errr strait. The feral cat Trump kills Gavin's cat and is banished to thrive among the rabbits.

Any cats left for the studio rats rats?


If writing ever becomes work I think I'm going to have to stop

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Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
FD Rating system.....maybe a thread that shows folks HOW to critique to the standards you'd like?

Lyric prose, structure, "scan", prosody, melody, arrangement...

Otherwise you need buttons for various aspects of the song or lyric as posted

Elvis you are still on about getting studios work. They definitely deserve support and clients, but for my aims, and I think FD's, it's not as important to us as it is to you

C'est tout. Plenus Punctus.

I will admit to being frugal where I put money. But I'm Dutch and it is a national sport, like voetbal. We love the front row for a dime.

But my background allows me to look at resources and means beyond money and I put up no cost to me music on a Youtube channel that now has 23 followers and one video approaching 1000 views

Puts me nowhere on the musical map but gets me in front of people who matter to me and then also to those passing by.

I have no dreams beyond that.

I am mostly retired with some clients of interest and long standing left, who now produces digital collages and continues a decades long songwriting "passion to produce original music" interest.

My day job, the one I used music to take regular vacations from, was\is now as a mostly retired CPA.

That has actually been a wonderful platform that has allowed me to accomplish some neat things that have enriched my community and region and Canada. I've been a member, director and chair of an advisory committee to what was then our Federal Business Development Bank using us as a window into our region's various ethocultural business communities, a Rotarian and for the last 15 years have driven World Interfaith Harmony Week in Toronto. This is a United Nations initiative for which I have received recognition in the form of a Medal from King Abdullah II of Jordan and a recent King Charles III Coronation medal awarded to 30,000 Canadians to recognize my interfaith activism.

So I do not regret may day job a bit. It gave me a good living, and allowed me use my skill and drive to enrich the lives of my family, clients, and community. So I am satisfied with my day job journey so far

But I always had my guitar next to my desk since the late 80s when I started my own practice. Then I started writing seriously when I found JPF and TWS and a lot of great JPFwriters listed on the left hand column

We were all driven to write and had varying degrees of talent and dreams.

True today as it was then

C'est tout. Plenus Punctus.



I will admit to being frugal where I put money. But I'm Dutch and it is a national sport, like voetbal. We love the front row for a dime. I did not know that was a dutch deal . lol

Yes I like recording . If not I'm... only paying bills and talking to doctors . of course it's Outlaw songs , like I'm somebody . Today we trapped a feral cat (we call Trump) . Who killed Gavins cat who owns the studio.
.
He kicked him and bounced off the piano , Were going to drop him 5 miles on a dirt road far from the studio . Gavins mad and wanted to shoot him , but ran out of bullets . But he said he'd probably feel bad .



Of course we bitched about life before recording . Lifes a big pile of horse shite. Yes thats correct . Everybody is full of it . As I burned out on that county road where jack rabbits out number the people in this town . See ya next week Gavin .

LOL what I like about this is the little scene that can play out around a studio.

Let me get this errr strait. The feral cat Trump kills Gavin's cat and is banished to thrive among the rabbits.

Any cats left for the studio rats rats?


He's on the road a lot during summer doing sound for festivals . The cats probably 20 miles away by now , dropped off on some new prospect to raise hell on .


ha ha , there's feral cats all over up here . If I drive out about 2am , I have to wade thru 50 of them , in this Trailer Park on the lake . They just sit in the middle of the road , like I aint moving .

Sorry lost my concentration , Listening to my wifes family and roosters crowing in Asia on the phone . Or FB chat . Cock fighting is big biz over there . No I don't understand Tagalog . Probably whats the latest Karate movie on Net Flix ? You Americans are assholess .

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