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Inside the Machine: The Smoothie, the Kitchen City, and How AI Actually Works By Gregory Watton Not long ago, artificial intelligence felt like something out of science fiction. Machines that write songs, generate images, answer questions, and even help make movies? It sounds like wizardry. But underneath all the headlines and hype, the reality is surprisingly simple. Think of AI less like magic… and more like a blender. The Smoothie Theory of AI Imagine you walk into your kitchen and decide to make a smoothie. You grab ingredients: applesauce, yogurt, milk, fruit. Maybe some protein powder. Maybe honey. You toss them all into a blender, press the blend button, and a few seconds later you’ve got a smoothie. Artificial intelligence works in a similar way. The ingredients are the things you give it: ideas, questions, prompts, lyrics, images, data. The blender is the AI system itself. The blend button is the complex set of algorithms that process the information. And the smoothie is the output: a paragraph, a song, a picture, a video, a line of code. In other words, AI doesn’t pull things from thin air. It takes the ingredients you provide and blends them together using patterns it has learned over time. Good ingredients? Good smoothie. Weird ingredients? Weird smoothie. But the blender analogy is only the beginning. Because inside that blender is something far more interesting. The City of Chefs To really understand AI, picture something bigger: a massive city made entirely of kitchens. Inside that city are millions of chefs. Each chef specializes in only one tiny thing. One chef understands sweetness. Another understands rhythm in language. Another recognizes the shape of a human face. Another knows that strawberries often pair well with cream. None of these chefs know how to cook a full meal on their own. But together? They can cook almost anything. This is essentially how modern AI systems work. Instead of chefs, they contain millions or even billions of small mathematical units called neurons in a neural network. Each unit recognizes a tiny pattern. On their own, they’re simple. Together, they become powerful. The Training Years Before anyone ever asks AI a question, those chefs spend years training. They study enormous amounts of information: books, articles, music patterns, images, conversations, and more. They practice again and again, learning what tends to come next in language, what colors form certain objects, and how ideas connect to each other. They don’t memorize everything like a hard drive. Instead, they learn patterns. For example: “Once upon a…” is usually followed by time. “Peanut butter and…” is usually followed by jelly. A sky is usually blue. A guitar usually has strings. After training on billions of examples, the system becomes extremely good at predicting what should come next. When You Ask AI a Question Now imagine walking into that massive kitchen city and giving an order. “Make me a strawberry banana smoothie with almond milk.” Suddenly the chefs go to work. The fruit chef says: “Strawberries and bananas go together.” The texture chef says: “Almond milk will blend smoothly.” The sweetness chef suggests: “Maybe add vanilla.” Millions of tiny decisions happen at once. The final result emerges step by step, like a dish being assembled in real time. In AI systems that generate text, this process happens one word at a time. The system predicts the most likely next word based on everything it has learned. Then it predicts the next word after that. And the next. Soon you have an entire paragraph, song lyric, or screenplay. Why Prompts Matter Because of this process, the quality of what you ask matters a lot. If you walk into the kitchen city and say: “Make food.” You’ll probably get something random. But if you say: “Make a strawberry banana smoothie with almond milk, no added sugar, and extra protein.” Now the chefs know exactly what to make. That’s why people talk about prompt engineering—the art of giving AI clear instructions so it can produce better results. It’s not about commanding a machine. It’s about choosing the right ingredients. Why AI Sometimes Gets Things Wrong There’s another important detail. AI systems are pattern experts, not truth detectors. They don’t know what’s real the way humans do. They simply predict what usually comes next based on patterns in their training. Most of the time, those predictions line up with reality. Sometimes they don’t. That’s why AI can occasionally produce answers that sound confident but aren’t entirely correct. It’s not lying—it’s just following patterns. The Future Kitchen Modern AI systems contain billions, sometimes trillions, of connections working together. The result is something like a planet-sized kitchen constantly assembling ideas from patterns learned across vast amounts of information. And every time someone asks a question, the chefs wake up again. Ingredients go into the blender. Patterns start firing. And another smoothie gets poured into the cup. Artificial intelligence might feel mysterious, but its core idea is surprisingly human: learning patterns, combining ingredients, and creating something new from what already exists. In the end, AI isn’t magic. It’s just the world’s most powerful blender… sitting inside the world’s largest kitchen.
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Yes, and then AI adds its own ingredients. So, at the very least a person who uses this should include AI in its credits. I won't even mention how AI accumulated their ingredients.
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its a old argument AI is with us now like Model T's replaced the horse. or you turn into Mark Twain and hate the 20st century. AI will only get more intelligent. And because of it, humans will be more intelligent by using AI. Cavemen eventually will die out over evolution . Here's the kicker, if you have no ambition AI will not help you , cuz you're to lazy to utilize it.
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Yes, no doubt Ben. I only jump in when people try to justify it. Let the users be honest and admit, it ain't right, but I'm using it anyway. John 
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You know music is dead when AI has to create its own teenage performers to present its own digitally contrived crap...
AI cannot make music. AI can only control the industry by saturating the market. Very much the same as users operate right here, right now.
Like vultures circling the carnage for any inspiration they can find... because legalizing plagiarism is the only recourse they have left.
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You know music is dead when AI has to create its own teenage performers to present its own digitally contrived crap...
AI cannot make music. AI can only control the industry by saturating the market. Very much the same as users operate right here, right now.
Like vultures circling the carnage for any inspiration they can find... because legalizing plagiarism is the only recourse they have left. I agree JAPOV. AI is destroying the hopes & dreams of the real songwriters & performers. The end of the Music Industry as we know it. That being said, I've been getting dozens of placements. Go figure. Waiting for it to end though... Best, John
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Rest easy JLS. AI still cannot dream, be inspired, be pysically joined to an instrument, play with joy, ..and you are not tied to an algorithm or line of code.
Greg....great analogy and explanation. Thank you
I'm in your camp Ben but not yet as a user. It is a new tool. You can argue all about its design, utility, impact, skills needed to best use the tool etc etc etc
But the real world sees it as a new tool that can help create new outcomes....in many fields for many people. This includes creating new tools.
And the importance of tools cannot be understated. They are means to outcomes. Tool + Technique = Outcome
Earliest known tools made by Hominids are in the Smithsonian...4.3 million years old, made by Australopithecus, found around Lake Turkana in Africa Many of our worlds animals use them to solve for their needs....to attain outcomes
Our modern world is built on tools and techniques.
In music SUNO has changed its business model and is going legit. It will spew garbage and capture the zeitgeist depending on ....yes outcome....which as the wielder of a new tool the user can master with experience.
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Well, if I give two people the same tools they will make two totally different things!
It could be a hammer, nails and some lumber. One will build a house and one will build a crooked outhouse. It could be 3 eggs, a pan and some heat. One will make 3 fried eggs and one will make a souffle.
AI can't cover up bad songwriting. (well, not that I know of)
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Well, if I give two people the same tools they will make two totally different things!
It could be a hammer, nails and some lumber. One will build a house and one will build a crooked outhouse. It could be 3 eggs, a pan and some heat. One will make 3 fried eggs and one will make a souffle.
AI can't cover up bad songwriting. (well, not that I know of) WRONG. AI is designed to only plagiarize the best of what's already been done. You tend to complain that AI adds too much to your guitar/vox recordings. Newsflash hun, there's nothing at all original about what you do. AI can't learn anything from you... You are precisely who SUNO caters too.
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Insightful and you understand what I was getting at about tools Kay Linn. Can definitely be adapted towards outcomes assuming the tool can be used in that way. And to your bad songwriting comment, it might be a fun challenge to write the worst possible lyric and see what SUNO does with it...try to break it so to speak Not that I have time for it...or inclination for that matter
Don't think Kay Linn is SUNO's demographic Tony until she begins to use it professionally. And IMO any way you want to use it is an experiment. What you said before that diverges from my understanding and experience and we'll just leave it at that. Too much there to unpack to respond
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One thing that AI Users fail to address is that Suno is based on stolen music (lyrics & music), sounds, videos, voices, and probably more that I can't think of at the moment.
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Yes, no doubt Ben. I only jump in when people try to justify it. Let the users be honest and admit, it ain't right, but I'm using it anyway. John  Ha Ha Ha , well we all live in gray areas. I'm still feeling guilty for stealing that stingray bike from Joe in 1962 .
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One thing that AI Users fail to address is that Suno is based on stolen music (lyrics & music), sounds, videos, voices, and probably more that I can't think of at the moment. Just assume that AI is always there, like a web crawler. Especially here. Brian has always been prone to attracting "bots" for web traffic. Probably the reason why the site's visitor numbers are so screwed up... AI can sample, re-process, re-purpose, and claim anything online as its own. Even a concept...
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One thing that AI Users fail to address is that Suno is based on stolen music (lyrics & music), sounds, videos, voices, and probably more that I can't think of at the moment. John, I think part of the confusion comes from how people imagine AI works. AI doesn’t actually store songs, lyrics, or recordings the way a hard drive would. During training it analyzes massive amounts of material to learn patterns — similar to how a human musician learns by listening to thousands of songs over a lifetime. A songwriter who grew up hearing Beatles records, Motown, Dylan, or Nashville radio inevitably carries those influences into the music they write. That doesn’t mean they are stealing from those artists — it means they learned the language of music. AI training works in a similar way. It studies patterns across huge datasets so it can understand how things tend to work — rhythm, melody structure, chord movement, lyrical phrasing, and so on. When it generates something new, it’s predicting patterns, not retrieving existing songs. That’s also why the human still matters. Two people can use the same AI tool and create completely different results because the ideas, prompts, taste, and direction come from the human using it. To me, AI is best understood as a tool, much like a synthesizer, sampler, DAW, or even the electric guitar once was. Every generation of music technology initially scares people because it changes the creative landscape. But historically the same thing happens every time: the tool doesn’t replace creativity — it changes how creativity gets expressed. Greg
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One thing that AI Users fail to address is that Suno is based on stolen music (lyrics & music), sounds, videos, voices, and probably more that I can't think of at the moment. John, that concern comes up a lot, and it’s a fair question to raise. But the way these systems work is often misunderstood. AI models like Suno aren’t databases of songs that get copied and rearranged. During training they analyze huge amounts of material to learn statistical patterns — things like rhythm structure, melodic movement, chord relationships, and how lyrics tend to flow with music. After training, the system doesn’t have access to those original songs the way a sampler or hard drive would. What it learned are patterns, not recordings. It’s actually closer to how humans learn music. A songwriter might grow up listening to Beatles records, Motown, Nashville radio, hip-hop, classical music — thousands of influences. When they write something new, they’re drawing on patterns they absorbed over time. But that doesn’t mean they’re copying those songs. AI is doing something similar mathematically. Now, the legal and ethical questions around training data are still being debated — courts are sorting that out right now — but the technology itself isn’t pulling pieces of existing songs and stitching them together. It’s predicting patterns and generating something new from those patterns. And just like with any instrument or production tool, what comes out depends heavily on the human using it — their ideas, their prompts, their taste, and their direction. At the end of the day it’s still a tool. And tools have always changed how music gets made. Greg
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Well, if I give two people the same tools they will make two totally different things!
It could be a hammer, nails and some lumber. One will build a house and one will build a crooked outhouse. It could be 3 eggs, a pan and some heat. One will make 3 fried eggs and one will make a souffle.
AI can't cover up bad songwriting. (well, not that I know of) WRONG. AI is designed to only plagiarize the best of what's already been done. You tend to complain that AI adds too much to your guitar/vox recordings. Newsflash hun, there's nothing at all original about what you do. AI can't learn anything from you... You are precisely who SUNO caters too. Tony, I think Kay-lynn’s point actually highlights something important. Tools don’t determine the outcome — the person using them does. Give two people the same guitar and you’ll hear two completely different songs. Give two producers the same DAW and plugins and you’ll get two completely different records. Same hammer, same lumber — different builder, different house. AI doesn’t change that dynamic. It doesn’t magically turn a weak idea into a great one. If the input is uninspired, the output usually is too. The human still brings the taste, direction, storytelling, and emotional intent. And plagiarism isn’t really how these systems work. They’re trained to recognize patterns in music and language, not to store and reassemble existing songs. Human creativity still sits at the center of the process — AI just adds another instrument to the studio. Greg
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It’s predicting patterns and generating something new from those patterns. And plagiarism isn’t really how these systems work. They’re trained to recognize patterns in music and language, not to store and reassemble existing songs. Bull$hit, and Bull$hit! The reason songs within a genre generally sound alike is because of "human pattern recognition". The Nashville Numbers System for example. Without that recognition there wouldn't be genres. AI (a computer) cannot create anything new. Without pattern recognition, AI couldn't "simulate" music. All AI can do is copy and rearrange patterns. Otherwise, AI music would just sound random and atonal. If that works for you, fine. But, you're not fooling me.
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It’s predicting patterns and generating something new from those patterns. And plagiarism isn’t really how these systems work. They’re trained to recognize patterns in music and language, not to store and reassemble existing songs. Bull$hit, and Bull$hit! The reason genres all sound alike is because of "human pattern recognition". The Nashville Numbers System for example. Without that recognition there wouldn't be genres. AI (a computer) cannot create anything new. Without pattern recognition, AI couldn't "simulate" music. All AI can do is copy and rearrange patterns. Otherwise, AI music would just sound random and atonal. If that works for you, fine. But, you're not fooling me. Tony, I think we actually agree on part of this. Music absolutely relies on pattern recognition. Genres exist because humans recognize and reuse musical patterns — chord movements, rhythm structures, lyrical phrasing, instrumentation, and so on. Songwriters do this constantly. The Nashville Number System itself is literally a way of describing musical patterns. AI works in a similar way mathematically. It learns patterns and uses them to generate new combinations of those patterns. Humans do the same thing creatively — we absorb patterns from the music we grow up with and recombine them into something new. The difference is that humans bring taste, emotion, intention, and direction to the process. AI by itself doesn’t decide what to make or why. So the real creative driver is still the person using the tool. Greg
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AI works in a similar way mathematically. It learns patterns and uses them to generate new combinations of those patterns. Mathematics? lol AI is just cutting and pasting bars of genre specific rhythm patterns in different order to suit different lyric flow... You're right, humans do the same thing. Been doing it with Casio keyboards since the 70's. But, that has nothing to do with mathematics or creativity. That's just "monkey see, monkey do". It's no surprise that a computer can do the same.
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AI works in a similar way mathematically. It learns patterns and uses them to generate new combinations of those patterns. Mathematics? lol AI is just cutting and pasting bars of genre specific rhythm patterns in different order to suit different lyric flow... You're right, humans do the same thing. Been doing it with Casio keyboards since the 70's. But, that has nothing to do with mathematics or creativity. That's just "monkey see, monkey do". It's no surprise that a computer can do the same. SMH. Ignorance can't be reasoned with. You do you.
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AI works in a similar way mathematically. It learns patterns and uses them to generate new combinations of those patterns. Mathematics? lol AI is just cutting and pasting bars of genre specific rhythm patterns in different order to suit different lyric flow... You're right, humans do the same thing. Been doing it with Casio keyboards since the 70's. But, that has nothing to do with mathematics or creativity. That's just "monkey see, monkey do". It's no surprise that a computer can do the same. SMH. Ignorance can't be reasoned with. You do you. Yeah', lol...
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What relevance does that have with anything? I'm young enough to be innovative and old enough to know better. I'm not required to answer your interrogative and invasive behavior, but I'll give you that much. You also mentioned you were a soldier? I'm assuming by "Soldier", you served in the US Army if you're an american citizen. Otherwise, if you're not american, I'd be mistaken. Either way, thank you for serving. I am also going to assume "JAPOV" is an acronym for "Just A Point Of View"?
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So the real creative driver is still the person using the tool.You got a point, AI would never help write a love song, it's a robot, it solve mathematical robot questions.
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So the real creative driver is still the person using the tool.You got a point, AI would never help write a love song, it's a robot, it solve mathematical robot questions. That's actually a good point, Frank. Without "human pattern recognition", AI has no clue what to do. Without established "human rhythm patterns", AI is useless. I believe the problem is the term "Artificial Intelligence". "Garbage in, garbage out" is still more accurate... It's still just a computer.
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What relevance does that have with anything? I'm young enough to be innovative and old enough to know better. I'm not required to answer your interrogative and invasive behavior, but I'll give you that much. You also mentioned you were a soldier? I'm assuming by "Soldier", you served in the US Army if you're an american citizen. Otherwise, if you're not american, I'd be mistaken. Either way, thank you for serving. I am also going to assume "JAPOV" is an acronym for "Just A Point Of View"? Don't make this personal. You've been a member long enough to know me... That's the only warning you're going to get.
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So the real creative driver is still the person using the tool.You got a point, AI would never help write a love song, it's a robot, it solve mathematical robot questions. That's actually a good point, Frank. Without "human pattern recognition", AI has no clue what to do. Without established "human rhythm patterns", AI is useless. I believe the problem is the term "Artificial Intelligence". "Garbage in, garbage out" is still more accurate... It's still just a computer. Geeks and a-holes sure love computers...
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Garbage in and out is crazy , Some prodigy is running AI and its thinking . it's a genius. Who knows what IQ it's running at , could be 300.
Here's the point you're missing , you can hang around AI instead of dummies . Its extremely smart .
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Garbage in and out is crazy , Some prodigy is running AI and its thinking . it's a genius. Who knows what IQ it's running at , could be 300.
Here's the point you're missing , you can hang around AI instead of dummies . Its extremely smart . Lol... Well, Frank, in your case you are definitely the exception to the rule... It certainly seems that AI has raised your songwriting IQ by at least 275 points! ===CONGRATULATIONS===
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Yes it has , it's extremely smart , something I'm lacking with only an Army GED.
Not that I don't enjoy that used up cliche, dancing in the moonlight idea
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What relevance does that have with anything? I'm young enough to be innovative and old enough to know better. I'm not required to answer your interrogative and invasive behavior, but I'll give you that much. You also mentioned you were a soldier? I'm assuming by "Soldier", you served in the US Army if you're an american citizen. Otherwise, if you're not american, I'd be mistaken. Either way, thank you for serving. I am also going to assume "JAPOV" is an acronym for "Just A Point Of View"? Don't make this personal. You've been a member long enough to know me... That's the only warning you're going to get. No disrespect meant. My apologies. I was trying to find common ground by asking about your military service. I am a veteran myself. Again, my apologies. I appreciate healthy debate. I didn't have any intention of making it personal or disrespectful. So, if I crossed that boundary, I apologize. Wasn't intentional.
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Tony AI does not cut and paste etc
NOTHING exists until the human enters prompts, at which point the AI code goes to work to produce the output
To store the song takes lots of memory...the program not so much
AND as part of the settlement with "the industry", I believe SUNO has agreed to retrain its AI on music from those who opt in...SUNO will have free and professional tiers. Musicians who pay can use it to create AND sell ....free users cannot ...and may not even be able to download .
If writing ever becomes work I think I'm going to have to stop
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No disrespect meant. My apologies. I was trying to find common ground by asking about your military service. I am a veteran myself. Again, my apologies. I appreciate healthy debate. I didn't have any intention of making it personal or disrespectful. So, if I crossed that boundary, I apologize. Wasn't intentional. Well, then I apologize for that quick "knee-jerk" reaction. I've grown quite accustomed to insults from the few regulars left here these last few years... My name is Tony, Graduated HS in ElTorro, went through boot in SanD, FMS Camp Pendleton. Corpsman, 2MARDIV. Retired contractor, N Alabam. Nice to meet you Greg. AI is still ruining the music industry! 
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Tony AI does not cut and paste etc
NOTHING exists until the human enters prompts, at which point the AI code goes to work to produce the output
To store the song takes lots of memory...the program not so much
AND as part of the settlement with "the industry", I believe SUNO has agreed to retrain its AI on music from those who opt in...SUNO will have free and professional tiers. Musicians who pay can use it to create AND sell ....free users cannot ...and may not even be able to download . You guys keep making my point for me... "Human Recognition" equals music genre. Genre reproduction equals the use of duplicated human rhythm patterns. Casio keyboards have been applying that data digitally since the 70's. All music research/study/data is based upon past human accomplishment. It doesn't matter who or what is operating the computer, the computer is not creating anything. It's only re-arranging know patterns. I'm well acquainted with MIDI graphs. Monkey see, monkey do.
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Ai does what musicians amd songwriters have been doing forever, using the best out there as a template for themselves to create over.
Its I mean every band yiu ever heard..what's the typical response... That sounds alot like...
The only difference is if Ai is performing everything and less and less human involved.
But let's face it, the best music this planet ever created has been done already. Before Ai popular music had not been very inventive or good.
Only thing that bothers me about Ai is people who have no skill no talent can produce high quality tracks.
But in the end if you name your favorite songs of all time ZERO will be Ai.
but i encourage you all to start with the basics, learn how to fuckin write, learn how nusic works, or else get buried under the ruble.
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Lol... How does nusic work, Dom?
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Yes it has , it's extremely smart , something I'm lacking with only an Army GED.
Not that I don't enjoy that used up cliche, dancing in the moonlight idea It's OK, Frank... In heaven, you'll be just as smart as me! Oh, wait........
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Lol... How does nusic work, Dom? Doesn't work by paying suno a monthly fee to use theirs. I would say most people who have tried Ai, don't know what key their song is in, what chord progression, what time sig. Know nothing about dynamics. And like most home recording over last 20 years, its devoid of vibrancy. Same tempo all way through, unless Ai somehow does it on its own. But without knowledge of these things you wouldn't even be able to ask Ai to do it. Most Ai users know nothing about scales, or any of the tools composers have used fir hundreds of years. It just spits out a pretty neutral track. But it does sound great, even if the song sucks. Put it this way real composers and artists will always be ahead of the curve
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To help lyrics people understand better what I mean...
If you use Ai for lyrics, it has already done all yiir work It has a structure, it rhymes, it has a beggining middle and am end.
And yes you come away with a lyric.
Chances are if you are a good lyricist you know alot is missing.
Flip that to the music, music is also lacking and missing things.
Namely a unique point of view
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And show me a REALLY great line that Ai generat3d.
Or a REALLY great guitar hook...
Ill be waiting
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And like most home recording over last 20 years, its devoid of vibrancy. I've been saying that online since 1999... Dynamic music happens naturally when you put 3 dynamic performers together. But nobody online wants to collab... AI will never beat a band.
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No disrespect meant. My apologies. I was trying to find common ground by asking about your military service. I am a veteran myself. Again, my apologies. I appreciate healthy debate. I didn't have any intention of making it personal or disrespectful. So, if I crossed that boundary, I apologize. Wasn't intentional. Well, then I apologize for that quick "knee-jerk" reaction. I've grown quite accustomed to insults from the few regulars left here these last few years... My name is Tony, Graduated HS in ElTorro, went through boot in SanD, FMS Camp Pendleton. Corpsman, 2MARDIV. Retired contractor, N Alabam. Nice to meet you Greg. AI is still ruining the music industry!  I am 47 years old. Graduated HS in Redondo Beach, went to basic training in San Antonio TX, Tech School at Keesler AFB, deployed to Ali Al Salem AB in 2003 in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom. I'm an entrepreneur and struggling with both physical and mental health issues. Still alive. Nice to meet you too. I believe AI is a transformative tool changing the music industry. Which is fine with me because the industry needs to be renovated. I embraced AI because it helps me get through [naughty word removed] I otherwise wouldn't be able to cope with. So, for me, it's a form of therapy. We can agree to disagree though. I don't mind.
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I am 47 years old. Graduated HS in Redondo Beach, went to basic training in San Antonio TX, Tech School at Keesler AFB, deployed to Ali Al Salem AB in 2003 in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom. I'm an entrepreneur and struggling with both physical and mental health issues. Still alive.
Nice to meet you too.
I believe AI is a transformative tool changing the music industry. Which is fine with me because the industry needs to be renovated. I embraced AI because it helps me get through [naughty word removed] I otherwise wouldn't be able to cope with. So, for me, it's a form of therapy. We can agree to disagree though. I don't mind. Lol... Yeah', I get that! Writing is certainly my favorite self therapy... Better with an audience though. Old school Christian soldiers don't seem to fair well in today's political atmosphere. Instead of selling AI, let's meet down in lyrics 
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I am 47 years old. Graduated HS in Redondo Beach, went to basic training in San Antonio TX, Tech School at Keesler AFB, deployed to Ali Al Salem AB in 2003 in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom. I'm an entrepreneur and struggling with both physical and mental health issues. Still alive.
Nice to meet you too.
I believe AI is a transformative tool changing the music industry. Which is fine with me because the industry needs to be renovated. I embraced AI because it helps me get through [naughty word removed] I otherwise wouldn't be able to cope with. So, for me, it's a form of therapy. We can agree to disagree though. I don't mind. Lol... Yeah', I get that! Writing is certainly my favorite self therapy... Better with an audience though. Old school Christian soldiers don't seem to fair well in today's political atmosphere. Instead of selling AI, let's meet down in lyrics  Lyrics I can do all day, every day. I don't need AI for that. In fact, I refuse to use AI when it comes to writing.
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“I’m Only Human” Lyrics written by Gregory Watton
[Verse 1] Sand all my edges down Turn my silence into sound If I’m broken in your eyes Tell me how to make it right
You trace the scar lines across my skin Like they’re flaws I’m living in But every scar is where I’ve been It’s proof I stayed alive
[Pre-Chorus] You see black and white I see the gray What you get is who I am Is that enough for you to stay
[Chorus] I’m not made with perfection I’ve got a body full of scars You see only one perspective I see things for what they are You want the highlight reel But this is who I’ve been I’m not a flawless photograph I’m only human I’m only human
I’ve got a heart full of scars And that makes me human I’m only human
[Verse 2] You want the clean-cut story No cracks, no categories But pain don’t come in symmetry And neither do I
I’m not the filter you apply Not the lens you modify I’m the truth you can’t deny I was made by design
[Pre-Chorus] You see black and white I see the gray I can’t pretend to be what I’m not Is that enough for you to stay
[Chorus] I’m not made with perfection I’ve got a body full of scars You see only one perspective I see things for what they are You want the highlight reel But this is who I’ve been I’m not a flawless photograph I’m only human I’m only human
I’ve got a heart full of scars And that makes me human I’m only human
[Bridge] If you want a hero Find it in someone else If you want the real me Take me Take me Take me as myself
[Chorus] I’m not a flawless photograph I’m only human I’m only human I’ve got a heart full of scars And that makes me human I’m only human
[End tag] I’m only human
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“I’m Only Human” Lyrics written by Gregory Watton
[Verse 1] Sand all my edges down Turn my silence into sound If I’m broken in your eyes Tell me how to make it right
You trace the scar lines across my skin Like they’re flaws I’m living in But every scar is where I’ve been It’s proof I stayed alive
[Pre-Chorus] You see black and white I see the gray What you get is who I am Is that enough for you to stay
[Chorus] I’m not made with perfection I’ve got a body full of scars You see only one perspective I see things for what they are You want the highlight reel But this is who I’ve been I’m not a flawless photograph I’m only human I’m only human
I’ve got a heart full of scars And that makes me human I’m only human
[Verse 2] You want the clean-cut story No cracks, no categories But pain don’t come in symmetry And neither do I
I’m not the filter you apply Not the lens you modify I’m the truth you can’t deny I was made by design
[Pre-Chorus] You see black and white I see the gray I can’t pretend to be what I’m not Is that enough for you to stay
[Chorus] I’m not made with perfection I’ve got a body full of scars You see only one perspective I see things for what they are You want the highlight reel But this is who I’ve been I’m not a flawless photograph I’m only human I’m only human
I’ve got a heart full of scars And that makes me human I’m only human
[Bridge] If you want a hero Find it in someone else If you want the real me Take me Take me Take me as myself
[Chorus] I’m not a flawless photograph I’m only human I’m only human I’ve got a heart full of scars And that makes me human I’m only human
[End tag] I’m only human Billy Joel only human... Im only human.. born to make mistakes. , human league Hundreds of songs that say the same thing, And kind of a laundry list...
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I am 47 years old. Graduated HS in Redondo Beach, went to basic training in San Antonio TX, Tech School at Keesler AFB, deployed to Ali Al Salem AB in 2003 in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom. I'm an entrepreneur and struggling with both physical and mental health issues. Still alive.
Nice to meet you too.
I believe AI is a transformative tool changing the music industry. Which is fine with me because the industry needs to be renovated. I embraced AI because it helps me get through [naughty word removed] I otherwise wouldn't be able to cope with. So, for me, it's a form of therapy. We can agree to disagree though. I don't mind. Lol... Yeah', I get that! Writing is certainly my favorite self therapy... Better with an audience though. Old school Christian soldiers don't seem to fair well in today's political atmosphere. Instead of selling AI, let's meet down in lyrics  Lyrics I can do all day, every day. I don't need AI for that. In fact, I refuse to use AI when it comes to writing. And like most home recording over last 20 years, its devoid of vibrancy. I've been saying that online since 1999... Dynamic music happens naturally when you put 3 dynamic performers together. But nobody online wants to collab... AI will never beat a band. I'd take The E Street Band, all day, or any band that were solid compared to Ai or loops or anything. . Finding ones who know how to accompany a song... The problem is logistics. Everybody playing at home, yo a click, and mailing their part is no different than using samples. Yiu need to be in the room together or at least have zoom capabilities that are through the roof.
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“I’m Only Human” Lyrics written by Gregory Watton
[Verse 1] Sand all my edges down Turn my silence into sound If I’m broken in your eyes Tell me how to make it right
You trace the scar lines across my skin Like they’re flaws I’m living in But every scar is where I’ve been It’s proof I stayed alive
[Pre-Chorus] You see black and white I see the gray What you get is who I am Is that enough for you to stay
[Chorus] I’m not made with perfection I’ve got a body full of scars You see only one perspective I see things for what they are You want the highlight reel But this is who I’ve been I’m not a flawless photograph I’m only human I’m only human
I’ve got a heart full of scars And that makes me human I’m only human
[Verse 2] You want the clean-cut story No cracks, no categories But pain don’t come in symmetry And neither do I
I’m not the filter you apply Not the lens you modify I’m the truth you can’t deny I was made by design
[Pre-Chorus] You see black and white I see the gray I can’t pretend to be what I’m not Is that enough for you to stay
[Chorus] I’m not made with perfection I’ve got a body full of scars You see only one perspective I see things for what they are You want the highlight reel But this is who I’ve been I’m not a flawless photograph I’m only human I’m only human
I’ve got a heart full of scars And that makes me human I’m only human
[Bridge] If you want a hero Find it in someone else If you want the real me Take me Take me Take me as myself
[Chorus] I’m not a flawless photograph I’m only human I’m only human I’ve got a heart full of scars And that makes me human I’m only human
[End tag] I’m only human Billy Joel only human... Im only human.. born to make mistakes. , human league Hundreds of songs that say the same thing, And kind of a laundry list... I'm not Billy Joel. I'm not anyone else. I'm me. I said it my way. Not sure what your intentions are, but I have my own style. I'm not trying to write like anyone else. Don't need your praise. Don't need your disdain. Not in it for the chase. Only writing out my pain.
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I usually write out my anger... lol 
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