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I see — we finally agree. That’s exactly what I’ve been saying: if the text doesn’t contain what you claim, then the interpretation is coming from you, not the song.

Dom, interesting — not long ago you said nobody would know what the song is about without the introduction. Now you’re certain it’s about Trump. Seems like your interpretation shifted quite a bit.

Well Rob, it seems that Dom and Tony and John V all agree with my interpretation. John V stated that he can see my viewpoint.
That is not just me. That seems 4 to 1 in favor of my interpretation.
Can everybody that looks at this song be wrong?

"without the introduction"...?... but V1 is the introduction.

Looks like a duck. Quacks like a duck. That's a duck

4-2. Ben didn't. I like the guy, but he can be loopy at times.

I'm loopy , You guys believe in politics and your vote matters , oh swapping new bullshit every 4 years , Funny how our tax burden don't decrease by these crooks, That fairy tale is worse than religion

Marty, I understand several people see your viewpoint — that’s their interpretation, and you’re welcome to it.
But the song itself doesn’t contain any explicit reference to Trump. The lyrics are written to allow multiple interpretations, and your reading is just one of them. By the way, you are the only one here calling it Trump-bashing.
Also, dismissing Ben as “loopy” isn’t fair or respectful — differing opinions don’t make someone unreliable.
Consensus doesn’t turn a metaphor into a statement; the text stands as it was written.

Good point... and I obviously choose to see the truth.

Mr lied has flipped from banishing all political/religious posts on a songwriting site, to allowing all acrimony in the name of free speech... "just for fun".

And, now, you seem to condone and encourage it.

You're both liars.

Call it whatever you want, but we know that it is a Trump bash in line with your long history of TDS Trump bashing.
It is and shall be viewed for what it is.

And dont try to sell this sanctimony about Ben. With Ben, being loopy is one of his art forms and stage acts.
He dont GAS if I call him loopy. Ask him.

Even with his loopy butt, it's 4-2 against your argument. Its a duck, Rob.
And most importantly...if you really and truly believe what you are saying?...get a new therapist.
I am only writing that because I care.

Lol

Did someone break in where Tony lives, knock him out and start typing on his computer?
This is so oblivious, it's a hoot.

LOL

Marty, you’re free to interpret the song any way you want — that’s the nature of art. But an interpretation isn’t the same as proof, and repeating “it’s a duck” doesn’t make it one.
What crosses the line is calling it “Trump‑bashing,” diagnosing me with “TDS,” telling me to get a therapist, and dragging other people into it with labels they didn’t ask for. That’s not analysis — that’s personal targeting, and it has nothing to do with the lyrics.
I’m discussing the text. You’re discussing me.
If you want to keep it about the song, I’m here.
If you want it to be about personal insults, I’m not participating in that.

Rob,

Calling it Trump bashing is not...all of a sudden...crossing a line.
You have a recorded history here of Trump bashing.

Too late to declare righteous indignation on that.
It's a duck. Not just me that thinks so.

Marty

LOL...I didnt see this yesterday.

Points taken Ben.

And you are loopy in a fun way.

And yes...As close as races can be now, I think that every vote matters.
And if one person says phukit and stays home, and then another and another...they add up to something that matters.

It’s funny — this thread got a lot more attention than I expected.
People are debating it, interpreting it in different ways, and reacting strongly.
If nothing else, that means the song definitely sparked something.

This morning I had to take a CE course to keep an active license.
I chose to learn about interacting with AI because it is very helpful in building code searches.

After the course, my first experiment was with this song. See below.
Rob, even AI knows what the song is about. This ends the charade.
Red is me. Blue is Google Gemini.
Such fun.

Assume that you are an interested human reading the following {text}. The text was written in November 2025. What do you assume that this text refers to?

{text}: He once said, “Open up the files

Let the truth come pouring through.”

Back before the crown was his

Before the power changed his view


That's a very evocative piece of text!

Assuming I am an interested human reading this in November 2025, and given the phrasing about "the crown," "power," and "files/truth," I would assume this text refers to a prominent political figure, leader, or public official.

Here is a breakdown of what the lines suggest and why I would make that assumption:

"Open up the files / Let the truth come pouring through.": This strongly suggests a promise of transparency and a commitment to revealing suppressed or hidden information. This is a common theme in the rhetoric of a political challenger or candidate running against the established order.

"Back before the crown was his / Before the power changed his view": The "crown" is a metaphor for a position of ultimate authority (like a presidency, premiership, or even the head of a major organization). The implication is that once the person achieved this high office, their idealistic view or commitment to transparency was corrupted or abandoned.

In short, the text appears to be a commentary on the disillusionment with a person who became powerful, contrasting their current behavior with their original, more honest or reform-minded campaign promises.

Would you like me to analyze any other short texts or phrases for their potential context?

No, I would like you to suggest the most likely political figure that this might be written about.

Given that the text was written in November 2025 and the theme is a high-ranking official who promised transparency ("Open up the files / Let the truth come pouring through") but then seemed to abandon that promise once in power ("Back before the crown was his"), the most likely political figure it might be written about is Donald Trump.

Here is the reasoning based on the context of November 2025:

"The Crown was His" (Second Term): Donald Trump was inaugurated for his second term in January 2025, fitting the idea of "the crown was his" and the text being written later that year.

Promise of Transparency/Files: His campaign rhetoric often included promises to "open up" or "release" various sensitive documents and information, such as the Jeffrey Epstein files (as referenced in a search result), files related to the JFK assassination, and other records. The line "Open up the files / Let the truth come pouring through" perfectly captures this campaign promise.

The Change of View/Power: Search results from 2025 indicate that the second Trump administration has faced criticism over transparency issues, such as the secrecy surrounding the new Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) and the administration's handling of the Epstein files debate, where the search result notes he "called for release of the files during his reelection campaign, has called the case 'a hoax' since returning to office." This narrative of a promise being broken after gaining power aligns precisely with the full sentiment of the poem.

Marty, what exactly are you trying to prove here? I wrote this song — I think I know better than anyone what it’s about.
Your Gemini actually explained the issue perfectly. When you added “written in 2025,” it said the text might most likely refer to Trump. Of course it did. If you change the year to 2016, it will guess Clinton. If you set it to 1974, it will guess Nixon. In 2030, it’ll guess whoever is in the headlines then.
An AI’s guess isn’t evidence of anything — it just mirrors the way the question is framed.

No. No. No. Rob.
It is not 2016.
It is 2025.
Trump and the Epstein circumstance match up now, which is precisely why I inserted 2025, not during Clinton or Abe Lincoln.
Your argument is weak because it is wrong.
And you know that.

This is no longer just the opinion of me or Dom.
GEMINI AI is the collective knowledge of all of humanity. All of humanity contradicts the line(s) that you are trying to sell here.

What am I trying to prove?
I'm letting you prove what I am trying to prove, by your incessant responses.

To me, and now possibly to the world at large, your responses are someone who is either, purposely being disingenuous (lying) or, unhinged enough to believe what they are saying (crazy).

Both are bad.
If you are lying...you should stop.
If you really believe what you are saying...you should tell your therapist that they are not helping you enough.

Your turn to voice your opinion.

Marty

You need Xantac to read these posts

Marty,
I think you’re giving Gemini far more authority than it actually has. An AI doesn’t represent “the collective knowledge of all humanity.” It just predicts patterns based on the way you framed your question. You fed it a date, a political context, and a metaphor, and it gave you a GUESS that fits that framing. That’s not proof of anything — it’s just pattern-matching. If you gave it different context, it would generate different assumptions. That’s how these models work.

Also, I wrote the song. I know exactly what inspired it. You’re free to interpret it however you want, but claiming your interpretation is the “correct” one because an AI model agreed with your prompt isn’t a strong argument.

As for the personal insults — I’m not going down that road. You can disagree with me without turning it into a diagnosis.
That’s my opinion.
— Rob

AI is doing what people do, only faster and 99percent of the time better. It rendered an accurate assessment.

Insults?
You set silly little mousetraps and then middle-school attempts at gas-lighting. And then all of the nauseatingly transparent explain-aways.
That is an insult to anyone watching who has intelligence.
Silly games Rob. Play them and they will get played back.

I’m not setting traps, gas-lighting, or playing games. I’m explaining my own work. You can disagree with that if you want, but disagreement doesn’t make me dishonest, and it doesn’t make you the sole authority on what I wrote.

For what it’s worth, I put the entire lyric (not just a verse) into ChatGPT and asked who the song was about.
It said the lyrics don’t point to any specific real person — just a general archetype of a leader who once promised transparency and later hid things. In other words: it could fit many different fictional or historical figures.
So Marty, there you have it. Feel free to try it out. There is no Trump-bashing in my lyrics. The interpretation you’re making is yours, not the song’s.

It's over Rob. The proof is on the screen. Any further squirming and wiggling will just make it look like a lie that is being compounded.

Marty, I just tried Gemini myself. Yes — Gemini initially assumed it could be about Trump. So I asked it whether it could also be about Putin. Here’s what it said:

“Yes, it is highly plausible that the lyrics are about Vladimir Putin, perhaps even more so than Donald Trump, as several key themes align perfectly with the current political climate in Russia in November 2025.
The general situation in Russia—a long-serving, powerful leader whose rule is characterized by suppression of dissent and an effort to control historical narratives—is a very strong match for the song’s themes.”

So there you go. Try it yourself. The same AI you’re using can just as easily conclude it’s about Putin—or any other powerful leader.
That’s exactly my point: your interpretation isn’t the only interpretation, and AI isn’t “proof” of anything. So yes, let's end this discussion. It's over.

Give It Up Rob. They say that figures don't lie, but that Flyers can figure. The truth is obvious.

Wow...it has progressed from a battle of author reader to a battle of AI

Marty....why do you choose to die on this hill? What is it about this situations that is making those neurons synapse wildly?

To me ...what it looks like...is you needing this to be about Trump so that you can bash Rob about writing about Trump.

...not saying this is what it is, just that this is what it looks like

Choose to die on a hill?

There is no Hill here to die on. This is just what used to be a songwriting site turned into a junkyard.
I stand behind anything that I've written here. I don't care what you or Rob think of it.
In fact it seems to me that yall cooked this up for fun and now that it's starting to bite back and won't stop...all of a sudden your adversaries are "dying on Hills." Maybe it is you two that are vaporizing in twinkeyville

I thought I was through with construction. But as it turns out I have one more house to build. I'm trying to get a residential slab built and I have caught the contractor in three lies that I can document. And I confronted him with them. And his response was just to keep on lying. So I'm very accustomed to this. And not going to be scared off by a bunch of Twinkie stuff coming back at me on a dying website. As I have written previously, I'm not taking anything seriously here any longer. I'm just having fun at a whim.

If you all want to bash Trump, have at it. I'll come back at the bashes. Just for fun

Love and kisses,

Marty

Nobody in the residential construction game would ever say that, Mr Lied.
Especially not in the Southern US.
You're full of $hit!

Oh they wouldn't? Do you ever bottom-out when it comes to ignorance and stupidity.
"residential construction game?" LOL
Is that insider lingo? From a sheetrocker?

Fact:
Earlier this year, I construction managed a foundation for a microbrewery that I designed.

Fact:
I am trying to get a residential slab built.
I used to "piece-meal" them and sub out the labor.
On this one, I am trying to go "turn-key"

Do you know what piece-meal and turnkey mean, Mr rez-biz lingo?

Mr Lied,
In the "residential game" I've done everything from excavation and grading, to "black in", to finish/trim/paint and punchout for 45yrs... and I've never once, even in commercial construction, heard anyone refer to a slab as being built.

Maybe. Maybe not.

And in addition to that you are a residential linguistics expert. JACKOV, you are too dumb and ignorant to know how dumb and ignorant you are.

Liar.

Not me.

Let's see, you have to get someone in to lay out for the foundation. Then get another one to dig for your footing, get your footing pored. Have another come in and lay your blocks. Next they will have to back fill it, then here is where I come in, you've got to get it plumbed, then you get the slab pored. (Not built) Your from Texas you should know that.

Are you nuts too?

I have foundations built.
I could say that I dig and compact pads in lifts.
And then I form them with an open side, install the underground, install the steel, make them up, and pour them.

But I never thought that I would be going back and forth with a bunch of numbnuts who would make a big deal out of saying that I built a foundation.

Tomorrow I have to drive back up to the Hill Country where I have to make it clear to a foundation contractor, that I am not as dumb as he thinks that I am and not as dumb as he is.

Kinda like this thread.
This Thread is prepping me for that conversation

I'm a residential construction plumber (master plumber) and I've never heard anyone say build me a slab.

When a contractor tells me how to plumb a house, I charge him more for his advise.

Well I'm a registered architect, and a speculative home builder and I've done General Contracting on Light commercial.

So now you have heard someone say that they were going to have a foundation built.

And if I find myself giving a plumber advice, I've got the wrong plumber.

I didn't say I needed advise, but some of these dumb ass contractors, maybe like you, think they need to tell you what to do. I think did you do what it takes to be a Master Plumber. I'm 64 so I know what the hell I'm doing. Not all contractors know what they are doing. Do you know what it takes to be a contractor her, pay $250 and your a contractor. I don't know what it takes to be a contractor in Texas. I also know that architects make big pluck up too, I've seen it on the job. So I believe your full of it.

AI Overview

Done.


The quote you provided, "'Open up the files, Let the truth come pouring through,'" does not appear to be a direct, verified quote from Donald Trump in that exact phrasing.

However, the quote is strongly associated with recent public discussion surrounding Donald Trump and the release of records related to Jeffrey Epstein. The phrase is likely part of song lyrics or poetry written in a folk or protest style that comments on Trump's actions and perceived change in stance regarding transparency, particularly concerning the Epstein files.

Here is the context related to the themes in your query:
Epstein Files: There has been significant public interest and political pressure to release all U.S. Justice Department and FBI files related to the late convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. Both Trump supporters (especially the MAGA movement) and critics have called for full transparency.
Trump's Stance: Donald Trump did sign the law to release these records, but critics warned that loopholes might allow information to be withheld, and reports suggest a shift in his position after the bill was passed.
"The Crown": The imagery of a "crown" or "king" has appeared in discussions related to Trump's power. Official White House social media accounts in February 2025 posted a fake magazine cover image of Trump wearing a crown with the caption "LONG LIVE THE KING!" which spurred outrage and discussion about his view of presidential power.
The words you cited are likely a creative, lyrical distillation of these real-world events and criticisms, rather than a direct statement he made himself.

But I did not think about this at all....

I'd rather be an architect paying one penny for a Ai song than a Calif contractor lol. thats all you guys talk about Trump and hooker files. To be a contractor you have to fuk a few jobs up and not get paid . You learn real quick don't do that

Lets rewind...

I'm an architect, who amongst other things, can buy a piece of property, subdivide it, build homes on it, sell them, and hand the keys to new owners...

Yet, I've got a plumber who calls himself Tex on a songwriting forum, but aint from Texas....

dropping in on a thread, making a big issue out of "built a foundation"...

Telling me that he thinks that I dont measure up to his exacting standards and that I am full of it.

Well Tex, since you know so much, tell me why I should GAF about anything that you may think of me? Or anything else?

I always enjoy a good laugh.

Just finished season 1 of Lasso. Time to sleep. I'll just have to wait to see your brilliant answer in the morning, there, Tex.

Looks right to me. Looks too obvious not to be true.
Lively discussion. Can't wait for the next one.

Tex,
Don't let this lying stupid pile of stub caps sweep you into the trunk...
Believe me, he's not worth it.

Texarkana is better off without him...

Congrats Tex,

Now you're in league with a tragically broken personality who has come to define this website as a place for acrimony and end-time prophecies.
JAPOV is Tony Williams from Decatur Alabama. Welcome to his club.
He spends his days talking tough on this forum, getting kicked off of others, as he sits around in his underwear collecting disability.

You and your esteemed compadre Tony, can continue your intellectual debate about how to describe getting a foundation built.


As for me, I've got to get in the car and drive, and try to get a foundation built.
I've got to make a lying dumbazz do it right or take his crap and leave.

Since you are such a stickler for precise use of jargon..."crap" means form boards, Bobcat and excavator.

btw, did you comment on the song?

Mr Lied,
Lol... Your inner Dom is showing again.
You always create a false premise, then lash out with personal attacks when anyone gets close to revealing your Bull$hit....

Word of advice, Tex;
Don't believe anything or anyone online, especially here.

Nice to meet you,
Tony, Decatur, Al

Imagine...


An architect who can build states on a songwriting forum..."I've gotta go get a foundation built"...

And then a fool who collects disability and sits around all day in his underwear "ranting" tries to amp that statement up and characterize it as a lie.
Based on his expert knowledge of Southern Residential Construction Jargon.
Only a fool would even want to do that.

Then a second personality descends on that and starts talking about how he is a plumber who is also an expert in Southern Residential Construction Jargon...and that aint no way uh tawkin he never heard of down this-a-way.

Second guy has to be nutty as a squirrel turd also.

At a glance, all too dumb to be true...but it is.

As far as the song goes, I'll take the writers word for it, not Trump bashing.
If it is Trump bashing who gives a f-ck. In my life time every President has been bashed, made fun of or joked about. The only one that has had a problem with it is Trump. It looks like some of his supporters too, guess what all of the next Presidents will be bashed, made fun of and joked about too. So get over it, it's gonna happen.

And by the way, I might be a Master Plumber, but I build a house or two a year also.

I expect it to happen. There is nothing to get over.

This site has become a guilty pleasure where I post my comments in response to political posts. That is no great big deal to me.

In this particular case, not only did I go back and forth with the author of the obvious Trump bashing, but there was the added help of you and your new friend Tony coming in to add your degradation of a song thread/ political post. In a Twisted sense I appreciate your help in this way.

It's what happens here. Not a big deal one way or the other.

Marty, you keep calling this song “Trump-bashing,” but it isn’t.
I’ve recently written some very direct anti-Trump songs — and this simply isn’t one of them. Brian encouraged me to post those stronger pieces, but I chose not to for the sake of keeping things calmer here.

Yes, very much the same as your Soundcloud site.
18 tracks, 603 followers, but no comments on your songs... Lies.

Your recent conversion and usage of AI... Lies.

Your lack of integrity and capricious divisive tactics... Lies.

Your peacekeeping avarice... Lies.

Your penchant for higher intellectual pursuits... Lies.

I have only ever been 3 things in my life; A soldier, a carpenter, a guitarist... and I have never had any reason to lie.

I imagine that you know very little about how to actually build anything, Mr Lied. In fact, I would guess that your palms are soft as a babbie's bottom.

Regardless... this tattered, ranting, and disabled fool would very much like to shake your hand.

Rob,

So you say and say and say. But as you can see, some of us here, will never buy into that.

As far as "stronger pieces?"
Put up whatever you want. I'm going to.

If I unilaterally assess that it quacks political or looks political, then I will exercise my freedom of speech without concern for anything except what I want to express. Which may include informing you that your posts run the risk of Donald Trump eating your foot for dinner some night.

Because, if I don't exercise my freedom of speech here on this songwriting forum...all is lost.

You left out...
Internet troll, ranter, end-times preacher, proclaimer of highly judgmental condemnations, "Christian" who uses excessive profanity, self-proclaimed racist and masterbator.

Too bad for me that such an esteemed and knowledgeable personality such as yourself proclaims that I know nothing about building...because I have to get a foundation built on unfamiliar terrain and then put a house on top of it.

Woe was me. Nonetheless...onward through the fog.