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Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
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And many other people, with vague and Adolescent Notions of what the second amendment is intended for, are down at the unemployment office.



And unless Kimmel wanted his show canceled, I can't think of another reason why he would say something so incorrect, so egregious and so stupid.

You say all that before breakfast most days

Answer the questions troll. It looks like Brian has some new people coming in and it's fair that they know what they're in for. They need to know that you will ultimately get around to calling them idiots and so forth like you have done with everybody else here. They need to know that the troll who writes songs that sound like they were written by a not particularly mature 15 year old ,
hands out advice and instruction to everyone else here and if they don't take it, then he calls them talentless. The world being played upside down and in reverse, right here

Dom The troll.

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Got it now. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Originally Posted by Rob B.
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And many other people, with vague and Adolescent Notions of what the second amendment is intended for, are down at the unemployment office.



And unless Kimmel wanted his show canceled, I can't think of another reason why he would say something so incorrect, so egregious and so stupid.

You say all that before breakfast most days

Answer the questions troll. It looks like Brian has some new people coming in and it's fair that they know what they're in for. They need to know that you will ultimately get around to calling them idiots and so forth like you have done with everybody else here. They need to know that the troll who writes songs that sound like they were written by a not particularly mature 15 year old ,
hands out advice and instruction to everyone else here and if they don't take it, then he calls them talentless. The world being played upside down and in reverse, right here

Dom The troll.

Just because I call you an idiot, or a hack or butt ugly, or mr Rogers, does not mean id call everybody that.

And they can see you already trying to prime them.

Why not let people decide for themselves

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Troll...

It seems, that you just got ushered off another songwriting website for acrimony and insults.

Insulting people is what you do. I believe I recall one time when I think you were calling five people talentless this and thats at the same time in five running diatribes.

This thread serves a very good purpose. It lets people know that you are out here, and you have a supplied anyone who reads this thread with a first-hand sampling of what you do. It also lets them know that you don't get stopped on this website, like you did on that last one.

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Troll...

It seems, that you just got ushered off another songwriting website for acrimony and insults.

Insulting people is what you do. I believe I recall one time when I think you were calling five people talentless this and thats at the same time in five running diatribes.

This thread serves a very good purpose. It lets people know that you are out here, and you have a supplied anyone who reads this thread with a first-hand sampling of what you do. It also lets them know that you don't get stopped on this website, like you did on that last one.

Hacky it's actually laughable with all your bi polarness and whims that you think people believe you.

People on that site actually attacked me first unwarranted, the admin knew them longer and let them get away with it.

But keep thinking anybody gives a [naughty word removed]

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Domb

If I see you harassing anyone, I am going to drop into that thread with the following advisory as many times as it takes to derail the harassment and bring it to me.

TROLL ALERT

TROLL#1
FDEMETRIO IS A RESIDENT TROLL. HE WAS RECENTLY BLOCKED FROM ANOTHER SONGWRITING FORUM, SO HE COMES TO THIS ONE WHERE NO ONE STOPS HIS TROLLING.
HE HAS BEEN KNOWN TO BE HARASSING, ANTAGONSTIC, AND BY HIS OWN ADMISSION "HOSTILE." HE HAS NO SONGWRITING CREDENTIALS OR ACTUAL MUSIC INDUSTRY EXPERIENCE TO SPEAK OF BEYOND HOBBYIST AND AMATEUR. IF HE BADGERS YOU ABOUT A SONG THAT YOU POST, OR DEMEANS YOU AS "TALENTLESS," OR ANYTHING ELSE, CONSIDER THE SOURCE.

TROLL#2
JAPOV IS ALSO A RESIDENT TROLL WHO HAS EXPLICITLY STATED THAT HE LIKES TO "RANT" AND WANTS HIS RANTING TO BE UNFETTERED ON THIS SONGWRITING WEBSITE. HIS RANTINGS ARENT USUALLY ABOUT SONGS. THEY ARE A DYSFUNCTIONAL STEW OF CURSING, NAME CALLING, MIXED IN WITH PROCLAMATIONS REGARDING HIS CHRISTIAN FAITH, POSTS SUPPORTING END-TIME BIBLICAL PROPHECIES, AND RIGHT WING POLITICS.

e.g. "What a fuk'n a$$hole!"

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Marty is a talentless hack who needs other people to exchange emails with.

He and Ben are both 74 years old and gossip like 8 year olds.

Facts are facts, emails from saud admin can be furnished.

The reason to not take Marty seriously is he sucks, he's butt ugly, has weird glasses, can't play sing ior write.

Listen to one of his tidbits and that's 3 or 4 minutes you'll never get back

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And Troll,

If you continue this, I am going to quit avoiding your posts.
You say that you want more strident posts on this forum.
Every time that you put up a song, I am going to give it a thorough critique.
Your songs often strike me as unremarkable, immature, often about odd-ball circumstances and unrelatable circumstances.
And you often put them to the same garage-band music.
I dont have to make up lies to cast them in a deserving light.

See you then.

btw ...Ben didnt get blocked from thesongwritersforum.com. You did Troll.

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
And Troll,

If you continue this, I am going to quit avoiding your posts.
You say that you want more strident posts on this forum.
Every time that you put up a song, I am going to give it a thorough critique.
Your songs often strike me as unremarkable, immature, often about odd-ball circumstances and unrelatable circumstances.
And you often put them to the same garage-band music.
I dont have to make up lies to cast them in a deserving light.

See you then.

btw ...Ben didnt get blocked from thesongwritersforum.com. You did Troll.

Go right ahead hacky. It will demonstrate many things.

1. That you don't even have the verbiage to review , which is why your writing is so poor.

2. That you are here for the drama, the want and need for your two cents to be heard, lived, appreciated.

3. You've already done it, you dint know what your talking about

4. And perhaps this biggest thing it will expose to other readers, that what your saying is what you REALLY think, * man if he thinks that about doms stuff, he must be lying to me. Thereby destroying any trust .

Ben goes into peoples threads and says sounds good, but he expects way more back.

He already alerted people when I signed up there trying to not allow me sane treatment as is.

And obviously communicated behind the scenes via private message as most cowards do.

Like yourself. Very easy to message somebody And plot

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TROLL ALERT

TROLL#1
FDEMETRIO IS A RESIDENT TROLL. HE WAS RECENTLY BLOCKED FROM ANOTHER SONGWRITING FORUM, SO HE COMES TO THIS ONE WHERE NO ONE STOPS HIS TROLLING.
HE HAS BEEN KNOWN TO BE HARASSING, ANTAGONSTIC, AND BY HIS OWN ADMISSION "HOSTILE." HE HAS NO SONGWRITING CREDENTIALS OR ACTUAL MUSIC INDUSTRY EXPERIENCE TO SPEAK OF BEYOND HOBBYIST AND AMATEUR. IF HE BADGERS YOU ABOUT A SONG THAT YOU POST, OR DEMEANS YOU AS "TALENTLESS," OR ANYTHING ELSE, CONSIDER THE SOURCE.

TROLL#2
JAPOV IS ALSO A RESIDENT TROLL WHO HAS EXPLICITLY STATED THAT HE LIKES TO "RANT" AND WANTS HIS RANTING TO BE UNFETTERED ON THIS SONGWRITING WEBSITE. HIS RANTINGS ARENT USUALLY ABOUT SONGS. THEY ARE A DYSFUNCTIONAL STEW OF CURSING, NAME CALLING, MIXED IN WITH PROCLAMATIONS REGARDING HIS CHRISTIAN FAITH, POSTS SUPPORTING END-TIME BIBLICAL PROPHECIES, AND RIGHT WING POLITICS.

e.g. "What a fuk'n a$$hole!"





Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
Go right ahead hacky. It will demonstrate many things.

1. That you don't even have the verbiage to review , which is why your writing is so poor.

2. That you are here for the drama, the want and need for your two cents to be heard, lived, appreciated.

3. You've already done it, you dint know what your talking about

4. And perhaps this biggest thing it will expose to other readers, that what your saying is what you REALLY think, * man if he thinks that about doms stuff, he must be lying to me. Thereby destroying any trust .

Ben goes into peoples threads and says sounds good, but he expects way more back.

He already alerted people when I signed up there trying to not allow me sane treatment as is.

And obviously communicated behind the scenes via private message as most cowards do.

Like yourself. Very easy to message somebody And plot

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Attention:

Hack Marty was kicked off TS site for basically, doing what he still does here.

Pontificates, soap boxes, attacking people who disagree with him.

He was a whiner then and a whiner now in his golden years.

Allegedly has a wife who seems non existent with all this time he has in his hands.

And I'm almost embarrassed for him, he can't stop himself, its something in his wiring that makes him need to spread self importance.fur example, his rent above he thinks anybody will even read that, or care

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Hmmmn...
Did I just hear a liar named Lide slinging $hit about trolls again?

What a fuk'n a$$hole!

Sure would be a shame to launch a new version of JPF with that same old freak trying to run the place...


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Originally Posted by JAPOV
Hmmmn...
Did I just hear a liar named Lide slinging $hit about trolls again?
What a fuk'n a$$hole!
Sure would be a shame to launch a new version of JPF with that same old freak trying to run the place...


TROLL ALERT

TROLL#1
FDEMETRIO IS A RESIDENT TROLL. HE WAS RECENTLY BLOCKED FROM ANOTHER SONGWRITING FORUM, SO HE COMES TO THIS ONE WHERE NO ONE STOPS HIS TROLLING.
HE HAS BEEN KNOWN TO BE HARASSING, ANTAGONSTIC, AND BY HIS OWN ADMISSION "HOSTILE." HE HAS NO SONGWRITING CREDENTIALS OR ACTUAL MUSIC INDUSTRY EXPERIENCE TO SPEAK OF BEYOND HOBBYIST AND AMATEUR. IF HE BADGERS YOU ABOUT A SONG THAT YOU POST, OR DEMEANS YOU AS "TALENTLESS," OR ANYTHING ELSE, CONSIDER THE SOURCE.

TROLL#2
JAPOV IS ALSO A RESIDENT TROLL WHO HAS EXPLICITLY STATED THAT HE LIKES TO "RANT" AND WANTS HIS RANTING TO BE UNFETTERED ON THIS SONGWRITING WEBSITE. HIS RANTINGS ARENT USUALLY ABOUT SONGS. THEY ARE A DYSFUNCTIONAL STEW OF CURSING, NAME CALLING, MIXED IN WITH PROCLAMATIONS REGARDING HIS CHRISTIAN FAITH, POSTS SUPPORTING END-TIME BIBLICAL PROPHECIES, AND RIGHT WING POLITICS.

examples of JAPOV's (Tony's) Rhetoric "What a fuk'n a$$hole!" and there is " as a Christian, am I now expected to forgive every murderous fa&got who makes a political a$$ of himself?"

FINAL NOTE: PREDICTABLY THERE APPEARS NO LOVE LOST BETWEEN TROLL#1 AND TROLL#2

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Just for the record...
The difference between my unyielding faith, and my God given imperfect humanity, should be plainly observed and appreciated when I tell you to go'fuk'yerself.

Lol... Hey, Mr Lied... Define TROLL;

Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Originally Posted by JAPOV
Hmmmn...
Did I just hear a liar named Lide slinging $hit about trolls again?
What a fuk'n a$$hole!
Sure would be a shame to launch a new version of JPF with that same old freak trying to run the place...


TROLL ALERT

TROLL#1
FDEMETRIO IS A RESIDENT TROLL. HE WAS RECENTLY BLOCKED FROM ANOTHER SONGWRITING FORUM, SO HE COMES TO THIS ONE WHERE NO ONE STOPS HIS TROLLING.
HE HAS BEEN KNOWN TO BE HARASSING, ANTAGONSTIC, AND BY HIS OWN ADMISSION "HOSTILE." HE HAS NO SONGWRITING CREDENTIALS OR ACTUAL MUSIC INDUSTRY EXPERIENCE TO SPEAK OF BEYOND HOBBYIST AND AMATEUR. IF HE BADGERS YOU ABOUT A SONG THAT YOU POST, OR DEMEANS YOU AS "TALENTLESS," OR ANYTHING ELSE, CONSIDER THE SOURCE.

TROLL#2
JAPOV IS ALSO A RESIDENT TROLL WHO HAS EXPLICITLY STATED THAT HE LIKES TO "RANT" AND WANTS HIS RANTING TO BE UNFETTERED ON THIS SONGWRITING WEBSITE. HIS RANTINGS ARENT USUALLY ABOUT SONGS. THEY ARE A DYSFUNCTIONAL STEW OF CURSING, NAME CALLING, MIXED IN WITH PROCLAMATIONS REGARDING HIS CHRISTIAN FAITH, POSTS SUPPORTING END-TIME BIBLICAL PROPHECIES, AND RIGHT WING POLITICS.

e.g. "What a fuk'n a$$hole!"

FINAL NOTE: PREDICTABLY THERE APPEARS NO LOVE LOST BETWEEN TROLL#1 AND TROLL#2


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Holy Crap! 20,097 guests...

Hell... If it ain't broke, don't fix it!


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22,142 guests... They must really love ME! grin


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Did that included Members & Invisibles Tony? Are you inflating numbers?

if so, would that be addressed in Acts or Numbers? smile


If writing ever becomes work I think I'm going to have to stop

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I'm watching the Charlie Kirk memorial and this thread PIP lol...

Actually, I believe King Solomon was told never to take a census, or collect horses and wives...

He blew it! grin


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King Solomon was into fabled gold mines so didn't need no stinking census, horses or wives. Each he could hire as needed on the spot.


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Originally Posted by JAPOV
22,142 guests... They must really love ME! grin

Yes I guess they love rants of hatred and nothing to do with topic , Which is upgrade. I kinda doubt it though

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22,142 guests... They must really love ME! grin

Yes I guess they love rants of hatred and nothing to do with topic , Which is upgrade. I kinda doubt it though

Pay attention, Elvis... I don't interject unless somebody calls me out.

BTW, I like you better when you get high and go fishing!


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I don't get high , to hot to fish. Id rather listen to Bill Burr than this guy ..Charles James Kirk, Some radical right wing guy

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Originally Posted by bennash
I don't get high , to hot to fish. Id rather listen to Bill Burr then this guy ..Charles James Kirk

Well, hell... Now I can't even feel sorry for you, Elvis.

On the other hand,
I kinda' know how you feel about Charlie. I had no clue who he was till he got shot. Now, suddenly everybody has been his best friend for the last 15yrs.
Really?
Seems like too little too late to me.

Don't get me wrong, if everything they're saying about him is true then God bless him.
But...
Perhaps people should start thinking about who's next!

Homoatheists are A$$holes.


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I don't get high , to hot to fish. Id rather listen to Bill Burr then this guy ..Charles James Kirk

Well, hell... Now I can't even feel sorry for you, Elvis.

On the other hand,
I kinda' know how you feel about Charlie. I had no clue who he was till he got shot. Now, suddenly everybody has been his best friend for the last 15yrs.
Really?
Seems like too little too late to me.

Don't get me wrong, if everything they're saying about him is true then God bless him.
But...
Perhaps people should start thinking about who's next!

Homoatheists are A$$holes.


I don't follow it much Tony , hard right or left is a bit much to handle


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Originally Posted by bennash
I don't follow it much Tony , hard right or left is a bit much to handle

Originally Posted by JAPOV
Well, hell... Now I can't even feel sorry for you, Elvis.


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I don't follow it much Tony , hard right or left is a bit much to handle

Originally Posted by JAPOV
Well, hell... Now I can't even feel sorry for you, Elvis.


Why ? u guys are stressing over things you'll never change. These politicians could care less on anybody , Why would you worry over the 1% ?

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I don't follow it much Tony , hard right or left is a bit much to handle

Originally Posted by JAPOV
Well, hell... Now I can't even feel sorry for you, Elvis.


Why ? u guys are stressing over things you'll never change. These politicians could care less on anybody , Why would you worry over the 1% ?

The radical 1% just assassinated Charlie Kirk and tried to assassinate Trump...

I'm .00000001%, why do you care what I think?

We established where we stand with each other long ago, Elvis.
Move On.


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I don't follow it much Tony , hard right or left is a bit much to handle

Originally Posted by JAPOV
Well, hell... Now I can't even feel sorry for you, Elvis.


Why ? u guys are stressing over things you'll never change. These politicians could care less on anybody , Why would you worry over the 1% ?

The radical 1% just assassinated Charlie Kirk and tried to assassinate Trump...

I'm .00000001%, why do you care what I think?

We established where we stand with each other long ago, Elvis.
Move On.


And your not changing any of it , So why worry about it , oh write a few songs


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Originally Posted by bennash
And your not changing any of it , So why worry about it , oh write a few songs


"Write a song"...?
What's my fuk'n motivation, Elvis?


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Originally Posted by JAPOV
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And your not changing any of it , So why worry about it , oh write a few songs


"Write a song"...?
What's my fuk'n motivation, Elvis?

Well my friend you are always motivated my God , And your very good at it


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I see a problem, Elvis...

A man can only take so much provocation. What moves me most these days is anger. I see what Charlie's wife made show of on TV yesterday and I ask myself, as a Christian, am I now expected to forgive every murderous fa&got who makes a political a$$ of himself?

No.

When the bullets are flying and the blood is flowing in the gutters, you don't stand in the middle of battle and shout, "I forgive you!"
It doesn't work that way.

The reason denying God is the only unforgivable sin is simple; If you deny God then you're damned already. You're already dead...

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16For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.

18“He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
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My Spirit does not call me to martyrdom.
If 70% of Americans identify as Christian, then I'm reminded of God's judgment upon the 7th church in Revelation.
The one that is neither hot or cold.
The one God spits from His mouth.

That's what I write songs about.


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TROLL ALERT

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JAPOV IS ALSO A RESIDENT TROLL WHO HAS EXPLICITLY STATED THAT HE LIKES TO "RANT" AND WANTS HIS RANTING TO BE UNFETTERED ON THIS SONGWRITING WEBSITE. HIS RANTINGS ARENT USUALLY ABOUT SONGS. THEY ARE A DYSFUNCTIONAL STEW OF CURSING, NAME CALLING, MIXED IN WITH PROCLAMATIONS REGARDING HIS CHRISTIAN FAITH, POSTS SUPPORTING END-TIME BIBLICAL PROPHECIES, AND RIGHT WING POLITICS.

examples of JAPOV's (Tony's) Rhetoric:

"What a fuk'n a$$hole!"

" as a Christian, am I now expected to forgive every murderous fa&got who makes a political a$$ of himself?"



Regarding the answer to your last question, it seems the entire New Testament came into existence because the answer is "yes."

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
TROLL ALERT

TROLL#2
JAPOV IS ALSO A RESIDENT TROLL WHO HAS EXPLICITLY STATED THAT HE LIKES TO "RANT" AND WANTS HIS RANTING TO BE UNFETTERED ON THIS SONGWRITING WEBSITE. HIS RANTINGS ARENT USUALLY ABOUT SONGS. THEY ARE A DYSFUNCTIONAL STEW OF CURSING, NAME CALLING, MIXED IN WITH PROCLAMATIONS REGARDING HIS CHRISTIAN FAITH, POSTS SUPPORTING END-TIME BIBLICAL PROPHECIES, AND RIGHT WING POLITICS.

examples of JAPOV's (Tony's) Rhetoric:

"What a fuk'n a$$hole!"

" as a Christian, am I now expected to forgive every murderous fa&got who makes a political a$$ of himself?"



Regarding the answer to your last question, it seems the entire New Testament came into existence because the answer is "yes."

I knew you would enjoy that, Mr Lied.
MartyDom, Martyrdom... LOL


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But, I wasn't speaking to you, Mr Lied...


I see a problem, Elvis...

A man can only take so much provocation. What moves me most these days is anger. I see what Charlie's wife made show of on TV yesterday and I ask myself, as a Christian, am I now expected to forgive every murderous fa&got who makes a political a$$ of himself?

No.

When the bullets are flying and the blood is flowing in the gutters, you don't stand in the middle of battle and shout, "I forgive you!"
It doesn't work that way.

The reason denying God is the only unforgivable sin is simple; If you deny God then you're damned already. You're already dead...

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John 3
16For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.

18“He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
==============

My Spirit does not call me to martyrdom.
If 70% of Americans identify as Christian, then I'm reminded of God's judgment upon the 7th church in Revelation.
The one that is neither hot or cold.
The one God spits from His mouth.

That's what I write songs about.


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Originally Posted by JAPOV
I knew you would enjoy that, Mr Lied.
MartyDom, Martyrdom... LOL

I don't enjoy seeing it Tony.
It's disgusting to me and degenerates a songwriting site, for the twisted amusement of a badly warped personality.

e.g. " as a Christian, am I now expected to forgive every murderous fa&got who makes a political a$$ of himself?" "LOL"

What sad fool would write any of that?

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Originally Posted by JAPOV
I knew you would enjoy that, Mr Lied.
MartyDom, Martyrdom... LOL

I don't enjoy seeing it Tony.
It's disgusting to me and degenerates a songwriting site, for the twisted amusement of a badly warped personality.

e.g. " as a Christian, am I now expected to forgive every murderous fa&got who makes a political a$$ of himself?" "LOL"

What sad fool would write any of that?

Go ahead, MartyDom... Tell us all what kind of "sad twisted warped fool" I am.

Perhaps you'll actually convince me to wear a target with a cross in the center for radicals to aim for...


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Originally Posted by JAPOV
Go ahead, MartyDom... Tell us all what kind of "sad twisted warped fool" I am.

Perhaps you'll actually convince me to wear a target with a cross in the center for radicals to aim for...

I didn't write that stuff Tony, on a public forum. You did.

I repeated it. It won't be me that convinced anyone of anything. It will be you.
As far as sad, twisted and warped...that is what I think, based on what you are willing to commit to writing.

Btw...unlike you, I have known who Charlie Kirk was for a period of years. Became a fan after he went on Newsom's premier podcast and debated him. I think that the world lost a valuable voice.
The wife with all the rings, all over the mic hand...tremendous and unthinkable loss that she suffered, but waiting to see what her leadership looks like. Kirk was a multi-generational one of a kind.

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And THIS is how I feel... WITH CONTEXT.

A man can only take so much provocation. What moves me most these days is anger. I see what Charlie's wife made a show of on TV yesterday and I ask myself, as a Christian, am I now expected to forgive every murderous fa&got who makes a political a$$ of himself?

No.

When the bullets are flying and the blood is flowing in the gutters, you don't stand in the middle of battle and shout, "I forgive you!"
It doesn't work that way.

The reason denying God is the only unforgivable sin is simple; If you deny God then you're damned already. You're already dead...

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16For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.

18“He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
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My Spirit does not call me to martyrdom.
If 70% of Americans identify as Christian, then I'm reminded of God's judgment upon the 7th church in Revelation.
The one that is neither hot or cold.
The one God spits from His mouth.

That's what I write songs about.


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Originally Posted by JAPOV
My Spirit does not call me to martyrdom.
If 70% of Americans identify as Christian, then I'm reminded of God's judgment upon the 7th church in Revelation.
The one that is neither hot or cold.
The one God spits from His mouth.

.

So the 7th church and its destruction in the OT validates the church of Tony and written comments about "fa**ots on public forums.
And all that NT stuff about loving enemies and forgiveness...the church of Tony has license to disregard it, because of the current exigencies.

Believe what you will Tony. To me, your allegiance looks dedicated more to tribal clan than cross. (that's a paraphrase of a preacher's comment I read today)

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Originally Posted by JAPOV
My Spirit does not call me to martyrdom.
If 70% of Americans identify as Christian, then I'm reminded of God's judgment upon the 7th church in Revelation.
The one that is neither hot or cold.
The one God spits from His mouth.

.

So the 7th church and its destruction in the OT validates the church of Tony and written comments about "fa**ots on public forums.
And all that NT stuff about loving enemies and forgiveness...the church of Tony has license to disregard it, because of the current exigencies.

Believe what you will Tony. To me, your allegiance looks dedicated more to tribal clan than cross. (that's a paraphrase of a preacher's comment I read today)

I quit allowing others to give me my opinion long ago...
Mr Lied, flip to the back of the Bible and see how it ends.

A man can only take so much provocation.
Even God can only take so much provocation.
What moves me most these days is anger. I see what Charlie's wife made a show of on TV yesterday and I ask myself, as a Christian, am I now expected to forgive every murderous fa&got who makes a political a$$ of himself?

No.

When the bullets are flying and the blood is flowing in the gutters, you don't stand in the midst of battle and shout, "I forgive you!"
It doesn't work that way.

The reason denying God is the only unforgivable sin is simple; If you deny God then you're damned already. You're already dead...

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16For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.

18“He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
==============

My Spirit does not call me to martyrdom.
If 70% of Americans identify as Christian, then I'm reminded of God's judgment upon the 7th church in Revelation.
The one that is neither hot or cold.
The one God spits from His mouth.

That's what I write songs about.


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Originally Posted by JAPOV
A man can only take so much provocation.
Even God can only take so much provocation.
What moves me most these days is anger. I see what Charlie's wife made a show of on TV yesterday and I ask myself, as a Christian, am I now expected to forgive every murderous fa&got who makes a political a$$ of himself?

No.

When the bullets are flying and the blood is flowing in the gutters, you don't stand in the middle of battle and shout, "I forgive you!"
It doesn't work that way.

The reason denying God is the only unforgivable sin is simple; If you deny God then you're damned already. You're already dead...


So, you and the creator of all, share the same essential anger and resentment?
There is a battle going on in the streets? Or about to be?
And then "KIng's Ex." Check this box and nothing else matters...or does it?

Take the last word Tony. This is getting too creepy for me to continue.

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I knew nothing of who Charlie Kirk was before he died and I did not see or want to see the video of the gunshot that killed him. Erika's speech moved me to tears. In her mind, ......and EVERYTHING I heard out of her was a consistent belief in God and Jesus as her Saviour ......it was the will of God working. I lost it when she described her scene at the morgue and the one grey hair she never told Charlie about.

I saw her address the memorial and she totally meant it when she said she forgave him and it was touching. Charlie as she said, believed he was doing the will of God and use me as you will was central to his thinking.

She totally believed that Charlie blinked and was in the presence of God and his Saviour. Medical evidence indicate instantanous death which she took as a Grace. She mentioned the expression on his face in the morgue.

This is a special woman.

I respect all faiths and those who truly practice the tenets of their faith.

and this woman is a true Christian and an example to those who want to be Christian


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Originally Posted by John Voorpostel
I saw her address the memorial and she totally meant it when she said she forgave him and it was touching.

Make no mistake, I do not doubt her faith.
But, watch again... Forcing herself to forgive her husband's murderer was the hardest thing she had to make herself do yesterday.
She was visibly shaking.
She was not at peace.
I was not moved as a witness by the Spirit and Authority Of God.

All I saw was a grieving widow clinging to Trump and the memory of her husband.


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John,

Charlie Kirk was born for it. Highly intelligent. Born to debate. Physically imposing. Likeable. Known to the conservative world as a teenager. Unafraid to take the debate to college campuses where liberals had unchecked dominion over young minds. He changed some of those minds. Arguably swayed the election. He was so effective at changing minds that they cut him down for it.

I don't doubt the wife's pain, love for Charlie and religious sincerity. Nor do I doubt her determination. I wish that all of this celebration had taken place in another two weeks, giving the wife more time to come to terms with everything.

I don't think that the wife can truly pick up where Charlie left off. Large movement with massive momentum, but it may morph into something less effective, and more about social positioning than debating ideologies. More like a political party. That was going to happen anyway, but without Charlie, faster.

We'll see.

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There is far too much emphasis on Charlie Kirk, and not near enough condemnation for the insult to Christianity... At least in the news.


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Originally Posted by JAPOV
There is far too much emphasis on Charlie Kirk, and not near enough condemnation for the insult to Christianity... At least in the news.

I'll bite one more time. There may even be a decent conversation here.

Charlie didn't rise to prominence because he was another Joel Osteen.
He rose to prominence because he was a young conservative activist who garnered the attention of Rush Limbaugh and Trump.
He was also a prominent Christian advocate.

He was not cut down exclusively for being a Christian.
He quoted Leviticus.
Mainly, he refused to believe that transexuality was anything more than "gender dysphoria" (a mental disorder)...and not "gender fluidity" (an elective declaration, nothwithstanding 30 trillion human cells to the contrary.)

And he was adamant and unrelenting about that. Trump got in and changed the landscape. A freak twisted all the way off and murdered Charlie Kirk.

Where is the insult to Christianity?

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Originally Posted by JAPOV
There is far too much emphasis on Charlie Kirk, and not near enough condemnation for the insult to Christianity... At least in the news.

I'll bite one more time. There may even be a decent conversation here.

Charlie didn't rise to prominence because he was another Joel Osteen.
He rose to prominence because he was a young conservative activist who garnered the attention of Rush Limbaugh and Trump.
He was also a prominent Christian advocate.

He was not cut down exclusively for being a Christian.
He quoted Leviticus.
Mainly, he refused to believe that transexuality was anything more than "gender dysphoria" (a mental disorder)...and not "gender fluidity" (an elective declaration, nothwithstanding 30 trillion human cells to the contrary.)

And he was adamant and unrelenting about that. Trump got in and changed the landscape. A freak twisted all the way off and murdered Charlie Kirk.

Where is the insult to Christianity?

"At least in the news..."

You apparently know a lot more about Mr Kirk than I do, Mr Lied.

It seems to me that, for the past week, every opinion or political position he took was based upon fundamental Christian principal... Much like myself.

Are you suggesting that Charlie Kirk wasn't as "Christian" as everyone is claiming?
Much the same as you claim about me?


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Can we get rid of McFly, hacky McFly already

He's such a detriment to a site.

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Originally Posted by JAPOV
"At least in the news..."

You apparently know a lot more about Mr Kirk than I do, Mr Lied.

It seems to me that, for the past week, every opinion or political position he took was based upon fundamental Christian principal... Much like myself.

Are you suggesting that Charlie Kirk wasn't as "Christian" as everyone is claiming?
Much the same as you claim about me?

No Tony.
Charlie Kirk said that he believed in the divinity of Christ and the Holy Trinity...and I have no reason not to believe him.
I was an admirer of Charlie Kirk. I expected to be able to listen to his podcasts from time to time, as I fell asleep, until the last time I fall asleep.
I'm disappointed that I won't be able to, and I don't think that anyone can replace him, the same as I don't think that anyone could ever replace Billy Graham.

You otoh, I personally see as a nut-job.

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Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
Can we get rid of McFly, hacky McFly already

He's such a detriment to a site.

TROLL ALERT

TROLL#1
FDEMETRIO IS A RESIDENT TROLL. HE WAS RECENTLY BLOCKED FROM ANOTHER SONGWRITING FORUM, SO HE COMES TO THIS ONE WHERE NO ONE STOPS HIS TROLLING.
IT HAS BEEN STATED THAT HE WAS ALSO PREVIOUSLY BANNED FROM THIS WEBSITE UNDER SOME OTHER NAME AND CAME BACK UNDER THE NAME "FDEMETRIO."

HE HAS BEEN KNOWN TO BE HARASSING, ANTAGONSTIC, AND BY HIS OWN ADMISSION "HOSTILE." HE HAS NO SONGWRITING CREDENTIALS OR ACTUAL MUSIC INDUSTRY EXPERIENCE TO SPEAK OF BEYOND HOBBYIST AND AMATEUR. IF HE BADGERS YOU ABOUT A SONG THAT YOU POST, AND/OR DEMEANS YOU AS "TALENTLESS," OR ANYTHING ELSE...HE HAS DONE THAT TO SEVERAL PEOPLE HERE...CONSIDER THE SOURCE AND DISREGARD IT.


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