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Why you calling me up today How ya get my number anyway What cha mean I was hitting on your girl I'm not the one who wrecked her whole world Ch Don't blame me I'm not the one who left her lonely I just noticed her heart was breaking She never said she was taken I'm not the one who set her free So don't blame me Don't blame V2 She was all alone in that corner bar Crying you cheated she was all torn apart Then she said how much it hurt I thought to myself how could someone do that to her Ch bridge I'm not sure what you thought you could prove She's not coming back to you , you fool Ch
Actually I did write this melody , Justin got the work tape and dialed it in on a few lines lyrically, Sandy was not involved. Its a blurr sometimes on songs.
Good song. imho...this is on par with current radio hits. Subject matter, lyrics, music all work. Radio country songs are well written and crafted. If I heard this one on the radio, I would not question its legitimacy to be there. I'm afraid that imho the vocal would need to be more melodic and in the pocket, but the song could be there.
Marty
Only change that I would have suggested... Would have changed I just noticed her heart was breakin to I just saw her heart was breakin
Just a personal sensibility. Not enough to worry about. Good song.
Well that's why I gave credit to 3 producers F . Justin Morgan BZ Lewis and Gavin Jones , i could have added one more Sandy Ramous to help dial it in .Most songs in Nashville have a whole team around a song . A drunk robot , that's a good one . I don't drink or do drugs . I spend my days reading a grammar book and studying music .
Well that's why I gave credit to 3 producers F . Justin Morgan BZ Lewis and Gavin Jones , i could have added one more Sandy Ramous to help dial it in .Most songs in Nashville have a whole team around a song . A drunk robot , that's a good one . Its turned out decent guys thanks
But they did everything for a price, you might as well have used robots
What a think Jason Aldean does , walk in a studio and get everything for free ? You should join forces with Grady Smith the critic , You guys world make great team . I'm not clicking a link to insult me , Go write your robot songs , You're a 100 times better then me with your sparkling personality .
Well that's why I gave credit to 3 producers F . Justin Morgan BZ Lewis and Gavin Jones , i could have added one more Sandy Ramous to help dial it in .Most songs in Nashville have a whole team around a song . A drunk robot , that's a good one . Its turned out decent guys thanks
But they did everything for a price, you might as well have used robots
Imho... the vocal couldnt be on the radio, but the vocal gets the song across and the vocal is not that bad. And the song, regardless of how it was PRODUCED has several good aspects.
The resident VILLAGE-IDIOT is having an agitated morning and trying to turn your thread containing a truly good song into his self featuring sh*t fest. Ignore the idiot.
What a think Jason Aldean does , walk in a studio and get everything for free ? You should join forces with Grady Smith the critic , You guys world make great team . I'm not clicking a link to insult me , Go write your robot songs , You're a 100 times better then me with your sparkling personality .
Your not Jason Aldean, and your song is boring and not a strong enough hook
It sounds good but using musicians in a pro studio, has nothing to do with you
You had the same sentiments when I posted songs.
My vocal in comedy on my phone is better than your vocal
It sounds good but using musicians in a pro studio, has nothing to do with you
Fdem, if Elvis wrote the words and the music, the song actually does have a whole lot to do with him. It wouldn't exist without him. He's the songwriter. That's far more than your input in your songs that were composed (melodies and chords) randomly by a computer. The sound that we hear here was created by musicians, vocalist and producers. That's called the recording. In this case it's a very professional sounding recording. I don't get the point you're trying to make here.
It sounds good but using musicians in a pro studio, has nothing to do with you
Fdem, if Elvis wrote the words and the music, the song actually does have a whole lot to do with him. It wouldn't exist without him. He's the songwriter. That's far more than your input in your songs that were composed (melodies and chords) randomly by a computer. The sound that we hear here was created by musicians, vocalist and producers. That's called the recording. In this case it's a very professional sounding recording. I don't get the point you're trying to make here.
You don't know what he created on this, you were certain I have nothing to do with my creations , ud lthink by now that I do .
All you are hearing is a bad singer trying to guster up emotion. You don't know what his role was
Just as you say anyone can use ai, so too can anyone pay people to put a track together.
If all he did was sing this, that's the worst part
The song was my idea and angle, I dialed it in with Sandy Ramous Yes on this one the melody was written by Justin Morgan and tracked out by his session players I just moved forward with the song to get it done . or it sits there going nowhere . The next song I'm writing the melody. Yes I sang it and hired African gospel singers for BGVS , BZ Lewis mixed it using the new gadget ( At least to me ) Dolby Atmos . I'll promote it , and that's it , Next song. On a side note I don't why Konocti Harbor Resort is closed down on concerts , Seems like a loss of Revue to me. But like a local said ."If you try to figure [naughty word removed] out , you'll drive your self nuts" good point . That's where i live close to there .
The song was my idea and angle, I dialed it in with Sandy Ramous Yes on this one the melody was written by Justin Morgan and tracked out by his session players I just moved forward with the song to get it done . or it sits there going nowhere . The next song I'm writing the melody. Yes I sang it and hired African gospel singers for BGVS , BZ Lewis mixed it using the new gadget ( At least to me ) Dolby Atmos . I'll promote it , and that's it , Next song.
Ahh more data comes through . Now he didn't do the melody or the music, he did allegedly the lyrics And the vocal
I once won a contest for impressions of singers.
Bruce, Petty, Roy Orbison, Neil Young i can do just about any voice
If you all did was write the lyrics and someone else wrote the music and produced it...a jaded view is that...you paid to play...in the game.
And the V-I's point, that from where you sit, there is little difference from that and clicking a mouse a few times and letting UDIO do the heavy lifting. He claims a few prompts fully enables him to claim the robot products as his. You claim that a few prompts coupled with a few bucks enables you to claim that the work of others is yours.
I'll let you phrase the next question?....?
Another POV closer to mine...if Carroll's end-product song is good, or your song is good or the V-I's song is good.... the only thing that matters is that good songs were brought into existence, as long as credit is being given where actually deserved. SIDENOTE: Legally both cases may be true.
To date: This song is good Carroll's Whatever For is good Nothing from the V-I strikes me as actually good. He talks often about the city of gold, but I aint seen no gold from him yet.
Yes your correct we wrote it . it was a team effort to get the song done on the rest ,Very common in Nashville on collaborations.
I know how collaborations work. Before TOONTRACK, I paid studio musicians to record my music and lyrics. I worked with them in the studio and did gtr/vox.
I also know that they considered me to be the lovable chum who was good for a few bucks now and then. And that the entire enterprise with recording studio was my version of fantasy camp. They were very good professional musicians. I was not.
As one of them said out loud once, "If you are going to be the weakest link that's ok, just bring the money." Fantasy Camp is a significant chunk of the recording industry. Years ago, I saw a semi talented kid raise 40k and get it sucked right out of his wallet by a Nashville producer. Had to buy his own ticket back to Texas.
I am a believer in facing things for what they are. Once again...nonetheless...if a song created by whatever means is good...it's good.
If you all did was write the lyrics and someone else wrote the music and produced it...a jaded view is that...you paid to play...in the game.
And the V-I's point, that from where you sit, there is little difference from that and clicking a mouse a few times and letting UDIO do the heavy lifting. He claims a few prompts fully enables him to claim the robot products as his. You claim that a few prompts coupled with a few bucks enables you to claim that the work of others is yours.
I'll let you phrase the next question?....?
Another POV closer to mine...if Carroll's end-product song is good, or your song is good or the V-I's song is good.... the only thing that matters is that good songs were brought into existence, as long as credit is being given where actually deserved. SIDENOTE: Legally both cases may be true.
To date: This song is good Carroll's Whatever For is good Nothing from the V-I strikes me as actually good. He talks often about the city of gold, but I aint seen no gold from him yet.
But you didn't give me that kind of rationale, and with millions of ways a melody can go, it's still in the user to make sense of if it all.
My lyrics and my musical sense has paved the way for my results
And not only that, I can do it as well without udio
Nope just at a small studio here in Kelseyville Calif , (it’s so quiet here you can hear a cow moo from a 100 miles away) that does a lot sound stuff for majors on the road . Gavin Jones about 6'8 and a funny guy. Born in Nashville , not sure how he landed here , I think the sound road work is for blue grass bands and such .
But you didn't give me that kind of rationale, and with millions of ways a melody can go, it's still in the user to make sense of if it all.
My lyrics and my musical sense has paved the way for my results
And not only that, I can do it as well without udio
Your music serves as a ticket and vehicle for the purpose of launching your unsupported narcissism, delusions and various psychological disorders. It is nothing to rave about and it's not even yours anymore. It does belong to the robots as well. And as usual, you are not comprehending my posts....to others.
But you didn't give me that kind of rationale, and with millions of ways a melody can go, it's still in the user to make sense of if it all.
My lyrics and my musical sense has paved the way for my results
And not only that, I can do it as well without udio
Your music serves as a ticket and vehicle for the purpose of launching your unsupported narcissism, delusions and various psychological disorders. It is nothing to rave about and it's not even yours anymore. It does belong to the robots as well. And as usual, you are not comprehending my posts....to others.
You basically argued that what Ben did is no different than what I did.
True st some level , but you won't acknowledge
Are you ready to go to another site so I can kick your ass and get this behind us.?
My lyrics and my musical sense has paved the way for my results
Fdem, I sometimes find your song lyrics quite good. But honestly... your "musical sense" does not improve what UDIO randomly generates. You just tell UDIO to do it over and over again until the AI model comes up with something you think is good. UDIO = UDo It Over. Anybody can do that. Other AI tools are far more challenging because you are in control of everything.
Elvis, I've done collaborations like that in the past. I love working with talented people. Everybody can contribute what they do best. The results are often amazing. You guys did a great job on this one.
My lyrics and my musical sense has paved the way for my results
Fdem, I sometimes find your song lyrics quite good. But honestly... your "musical sense" does not improve what UDIO randomly generates. You just tell UDIO to do it over and over again until the AI model comes up with something you think is good. UDIO = UDo It Over. Anybody can do that. Other AI tools are far more challenging because you are in control of everything.
Elvis, I've done collaborations like that in the past. I love working with talented people. Everybody can contribute what they do best. The results are often amazing. You guys did a great job on this one.
Number one the lyrics are written into music already, so they are melodic
Two, if you listen to 40 takes of your would be song, wouldn't it take an ear to say ..yes, that is what I'm looking for.?
Then another twenty to say, yes that is what I want for my pre chorus. This is what I want for my bridge.
It doesn't happen miraculously as a click.
It takes a composer to know a good melody and know what their vision is.
It be the same as me having a band, and saying ok let's try this one, what do you guys got
And through trial and error you land on one.
Thers more to it than just accepting what it pisses out.
If you accept the first thing that comes to your boney head, perhaps that's why your not good? I think I know why you ain't very good
I don't produce my songs by saying..."UDIO, do me another one." "OK, ag'in" "OK, ag'in" "OK, ag'in" "OK, ag'in" I use my voice and one of 4 guitars that I own.
I have several songs to show for that method. YOU HAVE NONE and had no songs at all until UDIO would mass produce them for you from a stack of lyrics.
ONCE AGAIN, Post what you believe to be your very best song to this site and let us decide if you are the gold standard or not. If your song is good, I wont lie and say that it isn't. If it isnt, I'll tell you why it isn't.
But the truth will still be here, you just won't see it
Even you know that you are dodging. You come to this songwriting site and hijack thread after thread desperately trying to make everything that you can about you, based upon expansive knowledge of nothing...YET....dont have the balls to put up what you consider to be your best song ON THE SITE. That is ridiculous.
Well good luck with that , I guess i should practice using Nashville tuning on the next tune , bright sound with my robot deep voice . I find catching know it all disease , is fatal . Its curable though , takes some humbling though . Having millennial wife's say you suck works pretty well. The 5am TIC TOK jockeys . Its like walking into a Nashville publishers office and hearing "not to bad , but you need some more experience" That's a long flight back to California . That was before the internet , you actually had to go to bars and sing songs , Hang out with Steve Seskin , listen to him sing how a garbage truck kept him up a 3am song.
Some artists would have you believe that becoming a songwriter is a gift bestowed upon you from the Gods and I plan to convince you that this is not true.
Writing songs is hard work and sometimes a lot of trial and error takes place
A common theme I hear from well-known singer songwriters is that they had to fake it until they made it, and some songwriters who have been doing it for decades (such as Paul McCartney, James Taylor…) say that the songwriting process is still this mysterious, magical thing that sort of happens through trial and error. I must I say I fully agree that songwriting has a strong element of chance – the stars aligning just right to get those lyrics to truly speak over the melody.
Dom You are nose picking troll who haunts this website, interfering with other people's threads, because he has nothing better to do with his time and songs that no one actually wants to hear. What a deluded loser such as you thinks doesn't actually matter.
Dom You are nose picking troll who haunts this website, interfering with other people's threads, because he has nothing better to do with his time and songs that no one actually wants to hear. What a deluded loser such as you thinks doesn't actually matter.
You trolled everything I posted and I'm supposed to feel sorry for you. It's ok for me to be [naughty word removed] on but not you .
Nothing better to do and you? Least I posted songs and you didn't like that either.
Why don't you just drink a glass of shut up?
You don't know much about music or ai ust shut up and nobody will care.
You were banned from ts for same stuff.
I still email with people from that site who think your a talentless brat .ive won the arguments, all of them, go away if you don't like it.
I will post 50 more songs and I hope you will shut up and stop telling Ben what to say to me
Whomever you are emailing or messaging back and forth about me, from Tunesmythe or anywhere else, like you, is a booger eating ghoul. If they were not, they wouldn't have anything to do with you.
it'll work for my fan base I'm ( slowing ) growing ,I don't pitch songs anymore . 2 reasons...to combative and I find no joy doing demos anymore , James and Paul do what most artist do , hire session players and work with producers .Record in major studios .cuz they know they'll bring more to the table . Thanks man
it'll work for my fan base I'm ( slowing ) growing ,I don't pitch songs anymore . 2 reasons...to combative and I find no joy doing demos anymore , Thanks man
If you were to get a good DAW and a $150-$400 mic, you could work up guitar/vox at home... It would enable you to do as many takes as you like without running up studio time.
Toontrack's EZ BASS and EZ DRUMMER are real easy to learn also. That would give you control of vocals, guitars, drums, bass...and then you could go from there.
You might find that it puts some of the enjoyment back into the process. It has for me. My vocals, for instance, are very imperfect. They start out feeling good and sounding bad on play-back. In a typical song, I redo them over and over again, over a period of months, in an effort to evolve them into the best that I can do. I can put as many hours as I want into them at home, at no charge beyond the initial cost of the software.
I like going to studios with a producer , I have enough isolation at home writing it. I have DAW for ideas. No I will not do demos anymore and pitch them , that's a closed door . 600 or 700 is enough .The market is saturated via internet . James and Paul surround themselves with genius people to get that sound. Probably even today at 76 and 80 years old .
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