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Neither the age of the universe or the Earth is proven lol...

Also, science assumes that the speed of light is constant despite the fact that light can be divided into various spectrums... and bent. So, the size of the universe is also just a theory.

Scientists are just as guilty of propagating theory as fact... as "religious" zealots are guilty of twisting scripture.
No gender? 72 virgins? Global warming? Alien origins?
Right....

However, it CAN be proven that the Bible hasn't changed since Moses wrote the Pentateuch... and the argument regarding God has outlasted the greatest minds throughout history. That's a miracle in itself... and I haven't even mentioned prophecy wink

That's true, the Bible doesn't change it's story. But it's interpretation is changed by anybody with an angle. The Bible is very confusing and vague.

And seemingly no two people agree on everything said in it.

But you're doing what said believers in Bible do.

You challenge science estimations, but the Bible is precise to you. And because it says 6000, years, and science says something else, you try to debunk their findings.

Science can save your life, and does everyday. Why dont you deny X-rays , or MRI or cat scans, saying that's not really the inside of this person, why don't you challenge your driving 60 mph? Or that being drink impairs your ability to drive?

Or that wearing a heavy coat in winter keeps you warm? Or that the sun will go down at 6 pm, or on Wednesday it will snow?

All that is science, the same science applied to everything. But because the Bible says 6000 years, let's deny it

And think about how dangerous it is to live in earth? Earthquakes, tornados, hurricanes, volcanos, meteors pummeling earth?

Why did God create the earth so dangerous to live in?

Seems you question everything except the Bible

The cool thing about the Bible is... It mirrors the character of God.
God doesn't have anything to prove lol... So, if you doubt Him, that's your problem. The Bible is intentionally vague for a reason. Prophecy is the proof of God's Word, and is always 100% correct in hindsight. You either accept it or you don't. God is not a tyrant, but there won't be 8 Billion "last moment saints" in His kingdom... Also, as a believer, God expects you to exercise good common sense.

Your complaint seems to be... "Why isn't this Earth the garden of Eden"?
Well... You know where the answer is lol.

Believe what you want, Dom...

You Think it's God:s word, cause you were told it is. So was I. I believed pretty strongly as a kid. I think what made me question was the advances in space and physics.

When I die and face to face with Jesus, I will say I always gave you the benefit of doubt, and you created my brain, and you know it's wired to question. And I loved and lived a halfway decent life.

I'm fact, the Bible encourages questioning, somewhere it's written how to discover false prophets....they eventually reveal themselves.

And no your twisting it. It's not the garden of Eden.... So God said ok, I'm gonna [naughty word removed] up the earth I created just to make sure I kill millions every year....

Makes NO sense.

An all knowing God, should not create an Earth, that people he loves live in, so badly.. God don't make mistakes... apparently He does.

It be bad enough just what people do to each other, I don't think he needed to create such a dangerous planet on top of it

You only arguments are faith and spiritually charged, logically, it makes no sense.

I'm getting sucked into a religious conversation, check please...

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Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
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Neither the age of the universe or the Earth is proven lol...

Also, science assumes that the speed of light is constant despite the fact that light can be divided into various spectrums... and bent. So, the size of the universe is also just a theory.

Scientists are just as guilty of propagating theory as fact... as "religious" zealots are guilty of twisting scripture.
No gender? 72 virgins? Global warming? Alien origins?
Right....

However, it CAN be proven that the Bible hasn't changed since Moses wrote the Pentateuch... and the argument regarding God has outlasted the greatest minds throughout history. That's a miracle in itself... and I haven't even mentioned prophecy wink

That's true, the Bible doesn't change it's story. But it's interpretation is changed by anybody with an angle. The Bible is very confusing and vague.

And seemingly no two people agree on everything said in it.

But you're doing what said believers in Bible do.

You challenge science estimations, but the Bible is precise to you. And because it says 6000, years, and science says something else, you try to debunk their findings.

Science can save your life, and does everyday. Why dont you deny X-rays , or MRI or cat scans, saying that's not really the inside of this person, why don't you challenge your driving 60 mph? Or that being drink impairs your ability to drive?

Or that wearing a heavy coat in winter keeps you warm? Or that the sun will go down at 6 pm, or on Wednesday it will snow?

All that is science, the same science applied to everything. But because the Bible says 6000 years, let's deny it

And think about how dangerous it is to live in earth? Earthquakes, tornados, hurricanes, volcanos, meteors pummeling earth?

Why did God create the earth so dangerous to live in?

Seems you question everything except the Bible

The cool thing about the Bible is... It mirrors the character of God.
God doesn't have anything to prove lol... So, if you doubt Him, that's your problem. The Bible is intentionally vague for a reason. Prophecy is the proof of God's Word, and is always 100% correct in hindsight. You either accept it or you don't. God is not a tyrant, but there won't be 8 Billion "last moment saints" in His kingdom... Also, as a believer, God expects you to exercise good common sense.

Your complaint seems to be... "Why isn't this Earth the garden of Eden"?
Well... You know where the answer is lol.

Believe what you want, Dom...

You Think it's God:s word, cause you were told it is. So was I. I believed pretty strongly as a kid. I think what made me question was the advances in space and physics.

When I die and face to face with Jesus, I will say I always gave you the benefit of doubt, and you created my brain, and you know it's wired to question. And I loved and lived a halfway decent life.

I'm fact, the Bible encourages questioning, somewhere it's written how to discover false prophets....they eventually reveal themselves.

And no your twisting it. It's not the garden of Eden.... So God said ok, I'm gonna [naughty word removed] up the earth I created just to make sure I kill millions every year....

Makes NO sense.

An all knowing God, should not create an Earth, that people he loves live in, so badly.. God dot make mistakes... apparently He does.

It be bad enough just what people do to each other, I don't think he needed to create such a dangerous planet on top of it

You only arguments are faith and spiritually charged, logically, it makes no sense.

I'm getting sucked into a religious conversation, check please...

Logically, 90% of Biblical prophecy has already happened...

So, it's only that last 10% you need to worry about, Dom.

Believe what you want...

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What should really be twisting your brain is...
God is the Alpha and Omega.
He KNEW how it was all going to turn out the moment He decided to create the Earth... and did it anyway.

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Those of us who believe must really be important to Him...

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If He already knew the outcome of everything He would do.... Why do it? For fun? Makes no sense.

He knew the earth would be hit by meteors that wiped out 3/4 of life on earth, 5 different times, he knew about the ice ages.

He knew about the Holocaust ,he knew about everything that could wrong on earth, and said this still sounds like a lot of fun, let's do it?

See what I mean about logic,?

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If you keep filling you head with the kind of crap you linked above... nobody is going to wonder about your mindset, Dom.

Text without Context is Pretext...

Besides, what makes you think you deserve better?
Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
When I die and face to face with Jesus, I will say I always gave you the benefit of doubt, and you created my brain, and you know it's wired to question. And I loved and lived a halfway decent life.
I'm sure God loved reading that...

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It's a totally legit question, one you have no answer for.

Nobody is thinking anything other than Dom is logical, tony is in la la land

You and others here continue to view everything in Christianity and The Bible as fact, when it's all faith based.

You have no argument so just believe, and say you don't have any answers

I will continue to struggle with it probably forever

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No, Dom... You don't struggle with anything. As evidenced by how much energy you waste trying to "legitimize" foolishness. I don't even have to waste time arguing the issue. Anyone who truly wants to know God knows where to find Him.

We all find what we look for, Dom... Especially in the Bible.

I don't have to prove anything to you, Dom. I certainly don't have to answer to you.

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I will continue to struggle with it probably forever

No... you wont. But you will live forever with your apostacy.

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Yeah you do have to answer, cause you like to bring Religion into conversations, and a know it all belief in it.

I can pretty much guarantee I would not have mentioned God or Bible here, if you hadn't .

So your just not used to this kind of questioning.

it's fine when you are are preaching and proclaiming, but when somebody challenges it, then suddenly you don't have anything to prove to me.

Of course you do, that's why you bring it up in first place.

Spanked.....

Off to work in some tunes

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Spanked.....

I'm OBVIOUSLY NOT your type, Dom...

You keep accusing me of being some kind of "guitar pickin' minister" lol... I wish, but I'm not qualified.

No, Dom... I'm just a witness and a messenger smile

Why don't you write a song about "La La Land"?
You certainly have a lot to say about it... Perhaps you've been there?

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"La La Land"...

Perhaps Dom is right?
Perhaps my uncompromising faith in eternal heavenly communion with my Creator is a burden and hindrance to progressive societal evolution... Besides, the world's resources keep dwindling and property is already at a premium. So, what's the point of graveyards? Why do we need a reminder of our inevitable demise? In fact, what's the point of struggling to avoid death at all?

Why prolong the inevitable? Why not just embrace it and do the Earth a favor?

Nuclear Weapons! Genius! Kill two birds with one stone!
Damn... can't get around the radiation problem.

Maybe...

If the meaning of life is to simply enjoy it any way you can... Then why not enjoy death? Make death an orgy of celebratory environmental obligation. Just give the overpopulated masses all the drugs they want and point them in the direction of the nearest humane society disposal and fertilizer plant.
A recycle party!

If there's nothing to look forward to, and death is the ultimate necessity of life, then why not just get it over with? Why all this mental masturbation about gun control? Mass murderers should be hailed as government sponsored public servants and live like rock-stars. And, any civilian who kills one gets to take his place!
Perfect Eco-friendly Symmetry!

Abortion? Let's face it, unwanted pregnancy is just a biological nuisance! In fact, if you have to choose between feeding your daughter or paying the electric bill... screw'it! It's not like she was ever going to make a meaningful contribution to society anyway. Making babies is obviously the problem! Legalize filicide and institute an even/odd sterilization policy for both sexes.

Methane! Farts defiling the precious atmosphere! Another product of overpopulation! Humans outnumber cattle by 7 to 1, but everybody loves drive-through hamburgers... So, feed the homeless to the hungry and tell them it's Chick-fil-A. And, don't tell anybody why everything tastes like chicken...

Homosexuality, Gotta' love it!
So, if you want to kill your spouse, go for it.

Insurrection will not be tolerated! All dissenters will be fed to the Ethiopians!

Religion and politics will be strictly sanctioned and enforce by your genetic betters. "Individuals" will be culled and prepared for consumption as a favored delicacy of the naturally entitled.

Yeah', Dom may be onto something. Let's just focus on the flesh and the "logic" that it demands...

Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the gracious gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord...

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Oh turning the other cheek to have that spanked too hey?
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Per Tony;
Alright let's break down this mamouth post
Perhaps Dom is right?
Perhaps my uncompromising faith in eternal heavenly communion with my Creator is a burden and hindrance to progressive societal evolution... Besides, the world's resources keep dwindling and property is already at a premium. So, what's the point of graveyards? Why do we need a reminder of our inevitable demise? In fact, what's the point of struggling to avoid death at all?

Per me:
Nobody said there was something wrong with faith, and for once you're calling it faith and not fact.... Ok, so why prolong life?
The same reason you are still with us. It's a great point in a backward way for you. If you're faith is so strong , and you're so sure, why not go there right now? Nothing else matters if paradise is waiting no? It's cause us humans are good bullshitters, no matter how much we know or think we know, we still are not sure what lies on the other side.
And in the Bible, Jesus cried when Lazarus died,.... He's crying even though, He:s God, and knows for sure there is a heaven. In fact He's already been to Heaven. And He also knows In a few minutes He's gonna bring him back to life anyway...why is He crying?

See I've thought of these things a few times before.

What else we got here?
..
Per Tony:
If the meaning of life is to simply enjoy it any way you can... Then why not enjoy death? Make death an orgy of celebratory environmental obligation. Just give the overpopulated masses all the drugs they want and point them in the direction of the nearest humane society disposal and fertilizer plant.
A recycle party!

Per Me:
That makes no sense. Enjoying life is real, death doesn't sound fun to most people. of the two options, there's only one desirable choice, unless the life In question, is so miserable, engulfed in pain and helplessness, in that case, yes prolonging life doesn't make sense

Per Tony;

Abortion? Let's face it, unwanted pregnancy is just a biological nuisance! In fact, if you have to choose between feeding your daughter or paying the electric bill... screw'it! It's not like she was ever going to make a meaningful contribution to society anyway. Making babies is obviously the problem! Legalize filicide and institute an even/odd sterilization policy for both sexes.

Per me:
Abortion is not a religious issue, it's worldly, social issue, and I don't disagree with you.
I'm pro life, but I can't tell others what to do.

Per Tony:
Homosexuality, Gotta' love it!
So, if you want to kill your spouse, go for it.

Per Dom:

God created us all in His image. Right?

If God is perfect, why did he create homosexuality? he made a mistake if it's wrong, and unfair to punish people who had no more choice being gay than you did being a blockhead lolllll

I don't care who is gay. Flaunting it, and intentionally trying to turn people off, and making them uncomfortable is the only thing

Per Tony:
Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the gracious gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord...

Per Dom:




Another spanking concludes

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Please, God... let somebody, ANYBODY, explain to Dom in language that he can understand, what the glaring overall point is here...

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Originally Posted by JAPOV
Please, God... let somebody, ANYBODY, explain to Dom in language that he can understand, what the glaring overall point is here...

The main point is I kick your ass in most debates

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Please, God... let somebody, ANYBODY, explain to Dom in language that he can understand, what the glaring overall point is here...

The main point is I kick your ass in most debates

Just so you don't change your mind and erase it...

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Well it's true

What's hilarious is you appealing to the three people reading this, saying "will somebody tell Dom what the point was"

Lolllllllllll

They have no clue what your point was, there was n none, just you trying to find an angle and getting owned.

Funny In many ways, mainly cause nobody is reading.

but you can have the last word, . I got music to work on

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Ha Ha Ha you guys go on and on , what was the topic again ? God or no God


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Point...? Not sure it matters anymore...

In my opinion, if humanity doesn't have a rewarding promise of Truth to look forward to... it will quickly devolve into "survival of the fittest" mob mentality; Then, ultimately, Armageddon... Just like the Bible says.

There's only two kinds of people;
Those who earnestly seek the source of all Truth and Life...
and those who "roam the earth" intellectualizing inequity, and flirt with death following their own flesh.

The only thing I worry about is... Will God judge me for wanting this argument to end? Will I be judged for surrendering to the inevitable?

...I'm not even remotely as forgiving as Jesus

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Originally Posted by JAPOV
Point...? Not sure it matters anymore...

In my opinion, if humanity doesn't have a rewarding promise of Truth to look forward to... it will quickly devolve into "survival of the fittest" mob mentality; Then, ultimately, Armageddon... Just like the Bible says.

There's only two kinds of people;
Those who earnestly seek the source of all Truth and Life...
and those who just "roam the earth" intellectualizing inequity and flirting with death.

The only thing I worry about is... Will God judge me for wanting this argument to end? Will I be judged for surrendering to the inevitable?

...I'm not even remotely as forgiving as Jesus

Nobody knows what the Truth is. There are 300 religions and probably thousands since the dawn of time.

Lightning must have seemed like the truth, those early people musta been like what the hell did we do?

I know , your belief is all there is. Everybody else's is invalid.

Even amongst Christians , the truth varies depending on who you ask

I would think, who created the universe, could simply write in the moon, I God, was here.

Instead we get vague references, that cause dividedness, and new religions all the time

Why not let somebody find the Ten Commandments rocks, or The Cross.

Let's be clear, and everybody would be on board.

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Point...? Not sure it matters anymore...

In my opinion, if humanity doesn't have a rewarding promise of Truth to look forward to... it will quickly devolve into "survival of the fittest" mob mentality; Then, ultimately, Armageddon... Just like the Bible says.

There's only two kinds of people;
Those who earnestly seek the source of all Truth and Life...
and those who just "roam the earth" intellectualizing inequity and flirting with death.

The only thing I worry about is... Will God judge me for wanting this argument to end? Will I be judged for surrendering to the inevitable?

...I'm not even remotely as forgiving as Jesus

Nobody knows what the Truth is. There are 300 religions and probably thousands since the dawn of time.

Lightning must have seemed like the truth, those early people musta been like what the hell did we do?

I know , your belief is all there is. Everybody else's is invalid.

Even amongst Christians , the truth varies depending on who you ask

I would think, who created the universe, could simply write in the moon, I God, was here.

Instead we get vague references, that cause dividedness, and new religions all the time

Why not let somebody find the Ten Commandments rocks, or The Cross.

Let's be clear, and everybody would be on board.

Quit babbling with me and ask GOD for yourself...

The only difference between us, Dom, is that I've already received my answer.

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Originally Posted by JAPOV
Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
Originally Posted by JAPOV
Point...? Not sure it matters anymore...

In my opinion, if humanity doesn't have a rewarding promise of Truth to look forward to... it will quickly devolve into "survival of the fittest" mob mentality; Then, ultimately, Armageddon... Just like the Bible says.

There's only two kinds of people;
Those who earnestly seek the source of all Truth and Life...
and those who just "roam the earth" intellectualizing inequity and flirting with death.

The only thing I worry about is... Will God judge me for wanting this argument to end? Will I be judged for surrendering to the inevitable?

...I'm not even remotely as forgiving as Jesus

Nobody knows what the Truth is. There are 300 religions and probably thousands since the dawn of time.

Lightning must have seemed like the truth, those early people musta been like what the hell did we do?

I know , your belief is all there is. Everybody else's is invalid.

Even amongst Christians , the truth varies depending on who you ask

I would think, who created the universe, could simply write in the moon, I God, was here.

Instead we get vague references, that cause dividedness, and new religions all the time

Why not let somebody find the Ten Commandments rocks, or The Cross.

Let's be clear, and everybody would be on board.

Quit babbling with me and ask GOD for yourself...

The only difference between us, Dom, is that I've already received my answer.

Your answer is suffice for you. My answer does not come easily, it used to.

And millions of Muslims, and Jehovahs, and Hindus and Buddha's scientologists, lds have found their answers too, and believe it as strongly as you do.

Are you smarter than everybody else?

Hey I'm Catholic, as Bruce says he guesses hell always be on the team.

If I ask God for an answer, which version do I ask? Don't say the Bible, cause every religion has a book

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The Bible is not a book of "religion", Dom...

The first page of the Bible opens with this;

Genesis 1
New King James Version
1) In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

Then continues with this;

26) Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness.

The opening page of the Bible forces you to ask yourself two very important questions...
Do I accept the existence of an all knowing and all powerful triune God?
And...
Do I accept that I am God's creation and He is in control of my destiny?

If your answer is no, then the Spirit will not enable you to understand the rest of the Bible as it should be. You will not see it from God's perspective (Jesus' Amplified Point Of View). You will only intellectualize the obvious wisdom it contains and dismiss the rest, leaving you with many more questions.

However, you shouldn't be discouraged. The fact that those questions will stick with you is also the Spirit at work. If you earnestly seek God then the Spirit will answer you.

On the other hand, if you allow your intellect to continually struggle and argue with the Spirit, then you deny the power of God.

It is better to fear God than trust your own limited understanding. You should also fear your self indulgent and sinful nature. Being made in His image gives you access, a right of passage. But it does not give you any authority, only dominion over lesser creatures.

You should also understand that you are not God, and respect His divinity.

Matthew 12
31)“Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men.
32) Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

The Bible is the only place you can find the Spirit of God.

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Originally Posted by JAPOV
The Bible is not a book of "religion", Dom...

The first page of the Bible opens with this;

Genesis 1
New King James Version
1) In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

Then continues with this;

26) Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness.

The opening page of the Bible forces you to ask yourself two very important questions...
Do I accept the existence of an all knowing and all powerful triune God?
And...
Do I accept that I am God's creation and He is in control of my destiny?

If your answer is no, then the Spirit will not enable you to understand the rest of the Bible as it should be. You will not see it from God's perspective (Jesus' Amplified Point Of View). You will only intellectualize the obvious wisdom it contains and dismiss the rest, leaving you with many more questions.

However, you shouldn't be discouraged. The fact that those questions will stick with you is also the Spirit at work. If you earnestly seek God then the Spirit will answer you.

On the other hand, if you allow your intellect to continually struggle and argue with the Spirit, then you deny the power of God.

It is better to fear God than trust your own limited understanding. You should also fear your self indulgent and sinful nature. Being made in His image gives you access, a right of passage. But it does not give you any authority, only dominion over lesser creatures.

You should also understand that you are not God, and respect His divinity.

Matthew 12
31)“Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men.
32) Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

The Bible is the only place you can find the Spirit of God.

Every Bible says that.

And what else would expect to see...a Bible saying only here can you find truth...

I can write one too and say same thing

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Originally Posted by JAPOV
The Bible is not a book of "religion", Dom...

The first page of the Bible opens with this;

Genesis 1
New King James Version
1) In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

Then continues with this;

26) Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness.

The opening page of the Bible forces you to ask yourself two very important questions...
Do I accept the existence of an all knowing and all powerful triune God?
And...
Do I accept that I am God's creation and He is in control of my destiny?

If your answer is no, then the Spirit will not enable you to understand the rest of the Bible as it should be. You will not see it from God's perspective (Jesus' Amplified Point Of View). You will only intellectualize the obvious wisdom it contains and dismiss the rest, leaving you with many more questions.

However, you shouldn't be discouraged. The fact that those questions will stick with you is also the Spirit at work. If you earnestly seek God then the Spirit will answer you.

On the other hand, if you allow your intellect to continually struggle and argue with the Spirit, then you deny the power of God.

It is better to fear God than trust your own limited understanding. You should also fear your self indulgent and sinful nature. Being made in His image gives you access, a right of passage. But it does not give you any authority, only dominion over lesser creatures.

You should also understand that you are not God, and respect His divinity.

Matthew 12
31)“Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men.
32) Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

The Bible is the only place you can find the Spirit of God.

Every Bible says that.

And what else would expect to see...a Bible saying only here can you find truth...

I can write one too and say same thing

I highly recommend you test that theory, Dom...

Let us know how it works out for you.

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Originally Posted by JAPOV
Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
Originally Posted by JAPOV
The Bible is not a book of "religion", Dom...

The first page of the Bible opens with this;

Genesis 1
New King James Version
1) In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

Then continues with this;

26) Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness.

The opening page of the Bible forces you to ask yourself two very important questions...
Do I accept the existence of an all knowing and all powerful triune God?
And...
Do I accept that I am God's creation and He is in control of my destiny?

If your answer is no, then the Spirit will not enable you to understand the rest of the Bible as it should be. You will not see it from God's perspective (Jesus' Amplified Point Of View). You will only intellectualize the obvious wisdom it contains and dismiss the rest, leaving you with many more questions.

However, you shouldn't be discouraged. The fact that those questions will stick with you is also the Spirit at work. If you earnestly seek God then the Spirit will answer you.

On the other hand, if you allow your intellect to continually struggle and argue with the Spirit, then you deny the power of God.

It is better to fear God than trust your own limited understanding. You should also fear your self indulgent and sinful nature. Being made in His image gives you access, a right of passage. But it does not give you any authority, only dominion over lesser creatures.

You should also understand that you are not God, and respect His divinity.

Matthew 12
31)“Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men.
32) Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

The Bible is the only place you can find the Spirit of God.

Every Bible says that.

And what else would expect to see...a Bible saying only here can you find truth...

I can write one too and say same thing

I highly recommend you test that theory, Dom...

Let us know how it works out for you.

Exactly, you would think I was crazy, but you don't think it's crazy that a book written 2000 years ago, and 75-150 years after it all happened and revering it as The Truth, is crazy? I may still believe but I know it's not logical.

What did you eat for breakfast three Mondays ago? But.....

And its a good thing Biblical times weren't today, because nobody would believe a word of it, and it would have never taken off.

There were no cameras, cell phones, eyewitness news then.

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You're welcome, Dom...

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ha ha ha right, well i feel Gods around sometimes , Its a mystery , Odd stuff , higher power and all that

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"Odd Mystery"...

Hmmmmn, could be something there wink

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Ha Ha I'm sure , if you wanna get on the tread mill of another song, lotta work , Tracks all that jazz


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God Bs lol


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Holy, the bible is a bloody read sometime,heh. Scare the sh#t out of yous, so ya repent.

But Tony...I liked this song. Well done. The melody to me was great....except I was wanting to hear more melodic lift and repetition with the hook.
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Originally Posted by JAPOV
The Bible is not a book of "religion", Dom...

The first page of the Bible opens with this;

Genesis 1
New King James Version
1) In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

Then continues with this;

26) Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness.

The opening page of the Bible forces you to ask yourself two very important questions...
Do I accept the existence of an all knowing and all powerful triune God?
And...
Do I accept that I am God's creation and He is in control of my destiny?

If your answer is no, then the Spirit will not enable you to understand the rest of the Bible as it should be. You will not see it from God's perspective (Jesus' Amplified Point Of View). You will only intellectualize the obvious wisdom it contains and dismiss the rest, leaving you with many more questions.

However, you shouldn't be discouraged. The fact that those questions will stick with you is also the Spirit at work. If you earnestly seek God then the Spirit will answer you.

On the other hand, if you allow your intellect to continually struggle and argue with the Spirit, then you deny the power of God.

It is better to fear God than trust your own limited understanding. You should also fear your self indulgent and sinful nature. Being made in His image gives you access, a right of passage. But it does not give you any authority, only dominion over lesser creatures.

You should also understand that you are not God, and respect His divinity.

Matthew 12
31)“Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men.
32) Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.

The Bible is the only place you can find the Spirit of God.


Hey Tony!
That's the clearest I've ever heard it stated. Good read!!
I printed it off.
Thanks!
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Watching you guys fight over God , gave me a good hook . "Don't Throw rocks At God
The devils soul shoplifting , And don't throw rocks at god


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Watching you guys fight over God , gave me a good hook . "Don't Throw rocks At God
The devils soul shoplifting , And don't throw rocks at god

Yup! A guy named Nimrod tried that lol... didn't work out real well wink

How about "Throwing rocks at God"? Blaming God for the mess we've created...

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Yeah thats general thought on hook , something like that, Why did he start the wars, lines like that , Have to map it out. tricky like all of them
I'm rusty on scripture , Nimrod was the mighty hunter

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The Devil is the Dean of Life College
But the All Saints school of hard knocks
Teaches a man that sleight of hand
Is a skill is better than knowledge

My guardian angel walked off the job
I'm dodging the lightning
Throwing rocks at God

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Some days it feels like our
Saving angels walked off the job
But don't throw rocks at God

We'd have to preach it. Good set up line Tony. That a catholic deal... guardian... I think

not to deep and keep it lighthearted
Some drama blaming God in verses , something like that

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Lawman wearing his down town frown
Not enough jellybeans to go around
Assumed entitlement, everybody's doin'it
Light hearted shoplifter lost in the crowd

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Politicians shatter the ceiling
WOKE college kids with hurt feelings
The system is wrecked, cause and effect
The precedence for stealing

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Minority millionaires take a knee
I'm laughing tears but it ain't funny
Rock-n-Roll has lost its soul
And the Pope just wants more money

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Take it away, Elvis wink

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your a liitle formal for a country boy like me lyrically

I got a Hank Williams Heart

and a James Taylor soul

Walking down this country road

A million songs in this guitar

Singing it out in this bar

I live for swinging doors

I got a Hank Williams Heart

and a James Taylor soul


The trick to the God song is to not offend anyone , not sure , do i bring in my anger with God on things not right ? or stand back look at more humble

its a strong hook , Have to think it about more

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Your words are just like stones
He's heard them all before
Can you feel the sunshine
And hear the rain
Do you wanna be by still waters
Then grasp on to the Gospel
And don't throw rocks at God

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Hmmm...

Tossing pearls at swine
Drunk on wicked wine
Armageddon in the garden of Eden
It's judgment time

My guardian angel quit the job
You can't bribe the Devil
And throw rocks at God

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to relgious tony

that could work

My guardian angel quit the job
You can't bribe the Devil
Think it needs to be super conversational and not get to preachy
You got lemons instead of peaches
But you still got sweet Jesus

tongue and cheek. Mark Twain with logic but humor is what I'm thinking
Not talking away from you Tony , your a fine writer

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I may seem off kilter
But, the Spirit is my filter wink

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I'm thinking more of a 2024 father , Not on raising kids 16,000 years ago on beating kids into submission
More of Loving father in 2024 , Not bringing up pigs and things
what i'm trying to say is more lighthearted on dealing with god

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Originally Posted by bennash
I'm thinking more of a 2024 father , Not on raising kids 16,000 years ago on beating kids into submission
More of Loving father in 2024 , Not bringing up pigs and things
what i'm trying to say is more lighthearted on dealing with god

Well... from a Christian perspective, it's all good news, Elvis.
If the Bible only told you what you wanted to hear, it wouldn't be God's Word; God's Truth.

If you want a "warm and fuzzy" HOLLYWOOD version of God that makes you feel good about yourself and humanity, don't read the Bible...

Good luck wink

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