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Originally Posted by JAPOV
Putin is an "Orthodox Christian"... and yes, I believe it influences his decisions.

Putin was KGB going back to E Germany. My understanding is that the USSR was a professed godless state. If he professes to be ROC now, I suspect that is just to gain a political advantage.

Can't be known either way.
Would have to have dinner with him and get him drunk and then ask him...still wouldn't be the truth. Can't have a life like his (ordering murders every week can't be resolved with notions of a Christian life) without ice water in your veins.

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
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Putin is an "Orthodox Christian"... and yes, I believe it influences his decisions.

Putin was KGB going back to E Germany. My understanding is that the USSR was a professed godless state. If he professes to be ROC now, I suspect that is just to gain a political advantage.

Can't be known either way.
Would have to have dinner with him and get him drunk and then ask him...still wouldn't be the truth. Can't have a life like his (ordering murders every week can't be resolved with notions of a Christian life) without ice water in your veins.
Lol... Or, he has simply found a "belief" that suits him.


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I was not calling anyone a swine, I was just quoting what the bible says, sorry if you took it personally. There are some that will never listen to the truth, they even question truth, so there comes a point it is useless to speak the truth to them, this is what this quote is for, it was not aimed at you or anyone on this site.I think you are a believer (I hope so) maybe a little bit of a doubting Thomas. LOL

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Originally Posted by Everett Adams
I was not calling anyone a swine, I was just quoting what the bible says, sorry if you took it personally. There are some that will never listen to the truth, they even question truth, so there comes a point it is useless to speak the truth to them, this is what this quote is for, it was not aimed at you or anyone on this site.I think you are a believer (I hope so) maybe a little bit of a doubting Thomas. LOL

A tip...
If you are having a debate with someone of a much different opinion and you employ a parallel metaphor which equates what you believe to be ...lovely and priceless pearls,

but equates and dismisses whomever might be in earshot of your pearls, but rejects or resists them as not necessarily true..........as swine.

Some people might take offense.

Not me so much Everett. When your posts are challenged your responses appear annoyed, rigid, dogmatic...to me. I've gotten used to it. wink
And I'm afraid I am not a believer. I am sympathetic to people who want to connect with their maker, from whatever direction they may come, because I am one of those people.

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Which goes to the heart of the matter and tolerance for another's core beliefs unless used intolerantly on others.

That is why that term pearls before swine is so offensive, especially because "the truth" as you keep repeating can only by faith be taken as such.

Faith in the truth of "something" is insufficient proof that "something" a) truly exists and b) exhibits the characteristics believers ascribe to their version of "something"

I'm amazed Jews Christians, Muslims and other faiths are monotheistic, so share the same a), God exists, but then all hell breaks loose around the b)

Marty's position as a self declared agnostic is that it is useless to talk about b) because we cannot establish the truth of a) which must be taken on faith alone

Underlying point, well recognized, is faith in the existence of a) is not proof a) is true.

As long as that is the case, individual belief must be vigorously respected and supported.

Back to our regularly scheduled programmimg....Hal Lindsay.


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You should realize by now that the title of this thread is, "Prophecy anyone?" Which is a "question". With a question mark (?).

Nobody is forcing anyone to do anything on this thread. Since I started it, I simply reserve the right to quote resources and be honest.

Bunch of mud-wallowing pigs! LOL smile

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By Hal Lindsey

Amid our mad preparations for Christmas, it’s all too easy to lose… Christmas. So, it seems good for us to stop occasionally, and think about various aspects of the Christmas miracle. One of those aspects is that it’s still happening. We’re in the midst of the Christmas miracle right now. And from here, the glorious climax of the story looks extremely close.

The Old Testament prophets spoke of the Messiah almost as if He would be two different people. Isaiah 53:4-6 (NKJV) is a great example of prophecies depicting the Messiah suffering for our sins. “He is despised and rejected by men, A Man of sorrows and acquainted with grief…. Surely He has borne our griefs And carried our sorrows; Yet we esteemed Him stricken, Smitten by God, and afflicted. But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities; The chastisement for our peace was upon Him, And by His stripes we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray; We have turned, every one, to his own way; And the Lord has laid on Him the iniquity of us all.”

Through the same prophet, Isaiah, God gave us what seems like an opposite picture in chapter 9, verses 6 and 7. “For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Of the increase of His government and peace There will be no end.”

How could the same Person die for our sins, yet rule the world forever? In retrospect, the answer is obvious. He would rise from the dead. We know from history that God resurrected Jesus. Hundreds of witnesses saw and heard the risen Christ. Jesus told us the eternal plan of God was for Him to die for our sins, rise from the dead, ascend into heaven, and return at the right time. In Matthew 26:64, Jesus said, “Hereafter you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Power, and coming on the clouds of heaven.”

At Christmas we celebrate the Lord’s first coming, but we should at the same time celebrate His second coming. It hasn’t happened yet, but one of the great messages of Christmas is that God keeps His promises. He kept His promises in the past, and, we can be sure, He will keep them in the future. In John 14:3, Jesus promised, “I will come again.”

After Jesus ascended into heaven, angels appeared to His disciples. They said, “This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven.” (Acts 1:11)

This same Jesus will return! And when He returns, everything will change.


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Originally Posted by JAPOV
You should realize by now that the title of this thread is, "Prophecy anyone?" Which is a "question". With a question mark (?).

Nobody is forcing anyone to do anything on this thread. Since I started it, I simply reserve the right to quote resources and be honest.

Bunch of mud-wallowing pigs! LOL smile

Merry Christmas

It seems to be lost on you that this is a song site called just plain folks. It is not a site dedicated to religious zealots on the DELIVERANCE media network.

Your new name, henceforth, will be "Banjo Boy." LOL 😂

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Originally Posted by Sunset Poet
Originally Posted by JAPOV
You should realize by now that the title of this thread is, "Prophecy anyone?" Which is a "question". With a question mark (?).

Nobody is forcing anyone to do anything on this thread. Since I started it, I simply reserve the right to quote resources and be honest.

Bunch of mud-wallowing pigs! LOL smile

Merry Christmas

It seems to be lost on you that this is a song site called just plain folks. It is not a site dedicated to religious zealots on the DELIVERANCE media network.

Your new name, henceforth, will be "Banjo Boy." LOL 😂
Oh, come on Marty... "Little Drummer Boy" never crossed your mind? wink


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Originally Posted by JAPOV
Oh, come on Marty... "Little Drummer Boy" never crossed your mind? wink

No. It truly didn't. LOL

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Unfortunately quoting the bible can be offensive to some. The bible says the word of God is an offence to those that are being lost.

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Originally Posted by Everett Adams
Unfortunately quoting the bible can be offensive to some. The bible says the word of God is an offence to those that are being lost.

The quotes from the Bible aren't offensive Everett. The way you place them into the conversation is offensive. For starters this is a songwriter site. Everyone here should know how important presentation and context are.

I could come up with miscellaneous quotes over the centuries that equate your beliefs with fanciful mythology and make the case that much of it was derived from pagan antecedents, but I prefer not to do that because of the many Christians whose belief is a sincere and kind attempt to connect with their maker.....

.... That they do not bludgeon non-believers with.

I don't want to belabor this with you, but let's get a little bit real.

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Since June 2019 I have posted more than 80 songs to soundclick. I sure wish you lazy-ass songwriters would quit your bitchin'!


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Since June 2019 I have posted more than 80 songs to soundclick. I sure wish you lazy-ass songwriters would quit your bitchin'!

That quoted text and much of Hall Lindsay's rants is what bitching looks like.

I write when I write. In fact, my latest will be up in just a few days. I'm sure you can't wait. smile

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BRING IT MAESTRO! smile


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SOMEBODY has to be right about religion, who is it? Can smebody on this panel prove God to me? ill check back

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Perhaps the reason ya'll keep putting yourselves through this abuse is because the "SPIRIT" is trying to work on you! smile


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Originally Posted by Fdemetrio
SOMEBODY has to be right about religion, who is it? Can smebody on this panel prove God to me? ill check back


I am a Christian and believe in the existence of God, however I can provide no proof of His existence..and no other Christian can prove God’s existence... we all believe by Faith...I am, however, able to tell anybody who wishes to listen why I believe in the existence of God...we are asked to defend our Faith and spread the good news

Conversely, non-believers are unable to prove He doesn't exist...in the end it's not about proof, it's about why

2 Corinthians 5:7 NIV
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Originally Posted by JAPOV
Perhaps the reason ya'll keep putting yourselves through this abuse is because the "SPIRIT" is trying to work on you! smile

I hope you don't mind if I correct your grammar, JAPOV...I believe this is what you meant...

Perhaps the reason we all keep putting ourselves through this abuse is because the "SPIRIT" is trying to work on us!


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Originally Posted by VNORTH2
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SOMEBODY has to be right about religion, who is it? Can smebody on this panel prove God to me? ill check back


I am a Christian and believe in the existence of God, however I can provide no proof of His existence..and no other Christian can prove God’s existence... we all believe by Faith...I am, however, able to tell anybody who wishes to listen why I believe in the existence of God...we are asked to defend our Faith and spread the good news

Conversely, non-believers are unable to prove He doesn't exist...in the end it's not about proof, it's about why

2 Corinthians 5:7 NIV
For we live by faith, not by sight

And, a little context certainly explains the "Why" smile

2 Corinthians 5
Our Eternal Dwelling

1)Now we know that if the earthly tent we live in is dismantled, we have a building from God, an eternal house in heaven, not built by human hands. 2)For in this tent we groan, longing to be clothed with our heavenly dwelling, 3)because when we are clothed, we will not be found naked. 4)So while we are in this tent, we groan under our burdens, because we do not wish to be unclothed but clothed, so that our mortality may be swallowed up by life. 5)And God has prepared us for this very purpose and has given us the Spirit as a pledge of what is to come.

6)Therefore we are always confident, although we know that while we are at home in the body, we are away from the Lord. 7)For we walk by faith, not by sight. 8)We are confident, then, and would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord. 9)So we aspire to please Him, whether we are here in this body or away from it. 10)For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive his due for the things done in the body, whether good or bad.


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This is one I've always wanted to "truly" master...

https://www.soundclick.com/music/songInfo.cfm?songID=14203869

Anybody wanna' help?


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Perhaps the reason ya'll keep putting yourselves through this abuse is because the "SPIRIT" is trying to work on you! smile

I hope you don't mind if I correct your grammar, JAPOV...I believe this is what you meant...

Perhaps the reason we all keep putting ourselves through this abuse is because the "SPIRIT" is trying to work on us!

That's not so much grammar as "perspective" lol... But, YES! I can go along with that wink


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This is one I've always wanted to "truly" master...

https://www.soundclick.com/music/songInfo.cfm?songID=14203869

Anybody wanna' help?

Should this be here or on the MP3 forum?


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Lol... Go back and read my first post in this thread smile


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[quote=JAPOV]Lol... Go back and read my first post in this thread smile[/quote



Why?


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Lol, Context and perspective, Steve.... Context and perspective.


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Lol, Context and perspective, Steve.... Context and perspective.

...and.....?


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I'm not ashamed to admit that I have enjoyed more inspiration to write and record FROM THIS THREAD than anything else on this site. So, thank you all! smile


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Speaking of inspiration... Here's a song title; "JUST ASK ME WHY" wink


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You are definitely in the wrong line here....you need to go over to the MP3 line...they’ll even let you go to the head of the queue...you can’t miss it...that’s where all the lazy-ass songwriters hangout...they’re over there pitchin’...their songs


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Don't ask me for proof
That there's a Spirit in the sky
Take me as I am
And just ask me why...

Next line Steve wink


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Originally Posted by JAPOV
I'm not ashamed to admit that I have enjoyed more inspiration to write and record FROM THIS THREAD than anything else on this site. So, thank you all! smile

No prob. You're very welcome.
A guy in a white coat is going to administer your meds soon and then escort you to your room for a nice nap. Enjoy that too. wink

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There's method to my madness... See above... lol smile

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This is your lucky day...this site has 3 forums for lyrics and oddly enough, this forum isn't one of them

...thanks for the offer to add to your poem but no

if you need help with your poem you know how this site works


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I don't think so Steve...
If this were moved down to "lyrics" or elsewhere, then all you would see up here is more boring and redundant crap about how "the industry" is dying... Besides, what's more important to a songwriter than "inspiration" smile


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Leave the thread where it is, no one is saying you should move the thread to lyric forums...just don’t use this thread to bypass everyone else by posting your songs or your lyrics on this thread...just get in the right lines

what is interesting is you have just told everyone what you think of their writing...and that the quality of this thread is somehow above their threads... those are your words...wow..

I can think of many things more important to a songwriter than inspiration...I’ll give you some time to think that statement through


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There's method to my madness... See above... lol smile

You Betcha. Roger that Ton'

But you know what...incredible coincidence.
the other day I passed a homeless dude walking down a sidewalk talking to himself at a thousand mile an hour in aloud voice. I stopped and asked him if I could help in any way. Then he said what you said. wink

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Nope, not my words Steve. Boring and redundant crap about a crooked and dying music industry is counterintuitive to a songwriter forum. JMHO

Wait a sec Marty, were you in Decatur, Al? I just LOOK homeless... wink


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Nope, not my words Steve. Boring and redundant crap about a crooked and dying music industry is counterintuitive to a songwriter forum. JMHO

Wait a sec Marty, were you in Decatur, Al? I just LOOK homeless... wink

JAPOV wrote

then all you would see up here is more boring and redundant crap

Yup your words...you just wrote it an hour+ ago...I'm concerned for your memory lapse..better get it checked out...
In the meantime...others shouldn't be helping you with your songs or lyrics on this thread.you know how this place works

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Nope, not my words Steve. Boring and redundant crap about a crooked and dying music industry is counterintuitive to a songwriter forum. JMHO

Wait a sec Marty, were you in Decatur, Al? I just LOOK homeless... wink

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then all you would see up here is more boring and redundant crap

Yup your words...you just wrote it an hour+ ago...I'm concerned for your memory lapse..better get it checked out...
In the meantime...others shouldn't be helping you with your songs or lyrics on this thread.you know how this place works

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I think that you should take a nap Ton'. wink

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You both complain like a couple of old women...


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You both complain like a couple of old women...

that's your best response...duh

What do you have to say about that Martha?

Stephanie

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You both complain like a couple of old women...

You're getting a little cranky Tony. I think it's a little passed your beddy-bye time. wink

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It's just another point of view Tony and I get being inspired by a conversation you are interested in so go for it

Don't be surprised if Hal Lindsay continues to be seen in light of his prophet profits when addressing his audience

Kinda like a fund raising DJT. Evoke the emotions necessary to accomplish what is needed and who cares about the truth?


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Oh, come on John... that's a bit obvious don't you think? You're usually more thoughtful than that lol. wink

Look, the truth is, I hate politics. It's ALL corrupt! The system itself is so broken that you can't even get involved without getting your hands dirty. But, with the whole "Big guy and Hunter" laptop scandal, China and Ukraine, cancel culture and obvious social media bias, the southern border, false sexual/racial narratives being taught to grade school kids, obvious election tampering, and not to mention, the botched Afghanistan withdrawal which everyone seems to have already forgotten about... there's just NO WAY I can possibly get behind this current administration just because nobody likes Trump's hair. smile


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Oh, come on John... that's a bit obvious don't you think? You're usually more thoughtful than that lol. wink

Look, the truth is, I hate politics. It's ALL corrupt! The system itself is so broken that you can't even get involved without getting your hands dirty. But, with the whole "Big guy and Hunter" laptop scandal, China and Ukraine, cancel culture and obvious social media bias, the southern border, false sexual/racial narratives being taught to grade school kids, obvious election tampering, and not to mention, the botched Afghanistan withdrawal which everyone seems to have already forgotten about... there's just NO WAY I can possibly get behind this current administration just because nobody likes Trump's hair. smile

Dang Tony,
Every now and then, you return to earth and join us mortals in our earthling existence. With clarity.
No argument here with almost everything that you stated, but Trump's hair in my mind was never at issue. It's weird but I tuned it out. Trump and Boris made weird blond hair on men a thing for a while.

However, Trump and Boris appear to be over. Time to move on Tony. Trump was a disrupter and got some stuff done, but he appears to have died from 1000 self inflicted cuts.

It appears to me that the inmates have taken the asylum. Their numbers are such that they are not going away. All we can do is hope to slow the car down as it approaches the cliff.

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Well, I like Trump's energy independence goals... and I believe Trump and Netanyahu make a great team in the Middle East. That's BIG for me. For obvious reasons lol wink


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Christmas
By Hal Lindsey

It’s all true — the angels singing from the heavens, shepherds watching over their flocks by night, the manger, the virgin mother, and the birth of the Child. The Christ Child, the One prophesied from ancient days, was born that night. One of His names is Emmanuel, meaning, “God with us.”

The first chapter of the Gospel of John calls Him “the Word.” The first four verses say, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made by Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. In Him was life, and the life was the light of men.”

Do you see it? This child, this newborn that lay in a box for feeding cows, created the world. He was, and He is, God. And at the same time, He was and is with God. That’s the mystery of the Trinity — one God in three Persons — the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. God the Son entered our world, not in a spaceship, but the way we enter our world, by means of a mother.

The human dilemma is that we stand before a perfectly holy God, and we are sinners. We like to say we are “only human.” But He was human, too — a human with a different nature. He was tempted just as we are, “yet without sin” (Hebrews 4:15). He told us to be as “perfect” as God the Father, but what human can achieve that level of perfection? The answer is the Human who is also God.

Here was God in the flesh fulfilling all righteousness. Then, on the cross, Jesus, the One who knew no sin, took our sin upon Himself so that we could become the very righteousness of God in Christ. (2 Corinthians 5:21)

And that’s why we celebrate. It’s why we give gifts and put colorful lights on houses and trees. His birth, life, death, burial, and resurrection are the reasons why we sing carols and eat feasts. He purchased our redemption. Let us rejoice!

For some, Christmas seems dark. Pain, loneliness, and loss can feel worse against a backdrop of celebration. But the real meaning of Christmas shines even in the deepest gloom. Christ, our Deliverer, has come. Later, He will come again and complete the job of redeeming the earth. But the heaviest lifting of all — our salvation — has already been paid for.

Of all the gifts you have ever received, this one is infinitely bigger and better and brighter than all the rest. God gave His son. There are many great Christmas verses throughout the Bible. But for me, one says it best. It emphasizes God’s gift to the world and to each of us as individuals. We find it in John 3:16.

“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”


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